My Daisy barks constantly at other dogs!

[daisymae2012]

I need help! My Daisy who is 8 months old hates other dogs. She is only 4 lbs., so I have to be careful what dogs I take her around. She has been around my mom's toy poodle and she barks as if she is going to try to attack her. Well, my husband brought home a golden retriever puppy about 4 weeks ago and Daisy hates her as well. I do not let Daisy down on the ground around the golden retriever puppy b/c she already weighs 40 lbs., but I do hold Daisy & let them sniff each other so they will get used to one another. But, Daisy acts as if she is going to attack every dog she sees. I do not know what else to do! Any suggestions??? She also does this to the vacuum cleaner & mop.

[YorkieMother]

Some how you need to get her to socialize more with nice safe dogs.
Do you have a training school around or a puppy social skills class she can go to.

She fearful and is doing what she does out of fear and cause and rightly so you are concerned for her she feeds off that and it makes it worse.

JL

[erickajm]

Thats how Peppee is...this goes for humans & other dogs...If I see someone walking down the street I pick him up and when he starts barking I "softly" hold his muzzle closed and tell him no bark...then praise him and give him a treat after they have disappeared...hopefully it will soon work!

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by erickajm

Thats how Peppee is...this goes for humans & other dogs...If I see someone walking down the street I pick him up and when he starts barking I "softly" hold his muzzle closed and tell him no bark...then praise him and give him a treat after they have disappeared...hopefully it will soon work!

To late to reward after the person is gone.
You wamt them to be just out of panic attack range to rewrd the calm before the panic attack nothing is learned insie a panic attack but more panic.
What is call below thresh hold iside that you can not teach an darn thing but do damage control and ever time a panic attack happens it makes it worse.. no panic is the goal.

JL

[RMKC]

Mine are that way too , specialy Apollo he gets realy agressive, but only with big dogs, he just barks his fool head off...not at little dogs though..a big dog comes along and he acts like a Pitbull... had something realy scary happen about a month ago on one of our walks... a lab was running loose, and Rosi and Apollo where on a Retractable Lesh, well when i saw it i picked Rosi up and was going to pick Apollo up, he was jerking on the leash and before i could pick him up he litterly frayed that leash in half and he ran towards that lab with me screaming after him , he was nipping on that labs hind feet...omg i thought he was a goner... i about had a heartattack... thank god that lab must of been mellow and only snapped at him by the time i reached him... my knees where shaken 3 hrs after....

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by RMKC

Mine are that way too , specialy Apollo he gets realy agressive, but only with big dogs, he just barks his fool head off...not at little dogs though..a big dog comes along and he acts like a Pitbull... had something realy scary happen about a month ago on one of our walks... a lab was running loose, and Rosi and Apollo where on a Retractable Lesh, well when i saw it i picked Rosi up and was going to pick Apollo up, he was jerking on the leash and before i could pick him up he litterly frayed that leash in half and he ran towards that lab with me screaming after him , he was nipping on that labs hind feet...omg i thought he was a goner... i about had a heartattack... thank god that lab must of been mellow and only snapped at him by the time i reached him... my knees where shaken 3 hrs after....

It is not aggression it fear... it a make them go awsy so I do not get hurt ( best offense is a great defence.) It is a lack of knowing that those big dogs well some not all are ok and dogs. Soicial skills and dog speak skill help be good thing.

Why I dislike retractable leashes it that in an emergency I can not get them up and away to my arms... long line I can pull it in and stand on it and have them up in seconds. yup done it. Had mine all but pulled out of my arms by a big dog.... so I no the fear. Now you are afraid and so is little man and you are making it worse for each other. As hard as it is and it hard you have to calm yourself to calm him.
Start by forgiving yourself...... yes you have quilt so did and do I. let it go you did the best you could and look still are and you kept your dogs alive. yeah well done.

Also take a break try and go out without other dogs around... I still go out after the day is quite and walk my dog in the peaceful time.
make walks fun again and less of a oh my is there going to be a dog.
Trust me that was hard for a long time for me.

Take him out on his own teach him you will protect him and that he does not have to do it,,, he got that in his head. work at the outside edge of where both you start to get worried that dog may get to close and feed him treats and tell yourself good job.

take time to heal both you and him.

JL

[Angelstarr]

I know I will get some negative reactions about this but here goes. If it helps one YT owner who was going through what I was then I guess it was worth the admonishment.

Some of you know that I am handicapped and I love MY yorkie as much as you all do but I cannot handle the pulling and yanking on my arms from an unruly dog. And the barking causing migraines. Cooper was given to me to help with my depression and loneliness and he has done that 10 fold.

Cooper is a teapot at 10 pounds so that also makes a big difference for many of you but our Vet and trainer both recommended a Pet Safe Collar for Cooper. It has the Tone correction and the static correction with a remote control so it has to be triggered by the human.

I have used it for 2 days. Yesterday I brought it home and put it on him at supper time. He began barking terribly at the paperboy. I used the Tone correction on him twice and the static on him on the #1 setting only 1 time. (The static has settings from -10) I have only had to use the tone correction since. It is very high pitched and not easy for humans to hear. But must be annoying for the dogs. I took it off him at night and did not put it on him until we went out for our walk this noon time.

I will add right here that it does NOT go off on it's own. It has a remote control and must be used by the trainer or the owner to work. So it doesn't go off by the dog barking or making noise. This is a feature I like! ALSO it can be left on the dog during the day and turned off so it can NOT be triggered by someone unauthorised or by a child or something. I take it off at night. It is not heavy on his neck and his neck is 9 inches around and it adjusts that small.

I also adjusted the static charge to the #8 on the remote and held it in my hand it did not hurt. I will say it was startling. but I have a TENS unit for my back that delivers electric shocks to your back to block pain signals and it was no worse than that. Like I said. I used # 1 on cooper and he did turn his head around and look around as if to say "what the heck was that?" but I only had to do it ONE time.

The funny thing is that Cooper knows already that the REMOTE makes the noise... So All I have to do is hold up the TV remote and say AH...AH... and he will go lay down...

I love it and it has helped me so much in just 2 days.

I hope this helps someone.

I feel it is very humane and would recommend it especially if your yorkie is on the larger size. It says right on the box for dogs 8 pounds and over, But the Vet says they do make them for TOY dogs smaller.

Hugs
Cheryl

[YorkieMother]

I am going to assume you just suggested a E collar to zap a dog with eclectic zap to stop barking?????

Here are the scientific reasons it not a good idea.
http://www.sfspca.org/behavior/dog_library/choke.pdf

Companion Animal Behaviour Therapy Study Group - Electronic training aids

Companion Animal Behaviour Therapy Study Group - Electronic training aids

International Positive Dog Training Association

My only thought is if your going to use this you really need to know what you are doing and the potential fall out. You cause cortisol levels to rise in the dog and they live in fer of it happening again and cirtisol is a killer.

That you had better have really good timing, keep emotions out of it and be aware that for them to work right you need to zap them hard and hurt once and use it as a threat for life that it may happen again.

ClickerSolutions Training Treasures -- Retraining Manic Alert Barking

JL

[JenniferLeigh]

Socialization is key. Lexi is 10 months at 9lbs - I've been taking her to offleash dog parks since she was 5 months old. I am fortunate that she is larger, but I do find most dogs are very gentle with her. I agree with Yorkie mother, if you are worried, she is probably picking up on it.

You can also try meetup.com, perhaps they have a small dog meetup in your area.

My 2 cents about the bark collar: If you feel like you may need to go in this route, talk to your vet before hand and do your research. People have strong opinions on this but imo if used properly it can be effective.

[Angelstarr]

I guess you did not read my post i said i use the tone correction i only had to use the static correction one time

i have read all of those articles

i know the concequences that is why i use the tone. I knew this would happen

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by Angelstarr

I guess you did not read my post i said i use the tone correction i only had to use the static correction one time

i have read all of those articles

i know the concequences that is why i use the tone. I knew this would happen

I did read your post and I was not sure if you had gone from tone to zap.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.... but and it is a little but you can get the tone correction without the zap at all.
You know the consequences and I know them but many have not clue what they are and have any idea that there are any.
I have seen one of those used to a dog going to a fear bite... not fun.

It is what is called an interrupter to stop behavior but it does not teach the dog what to do after and it leaves the dog in the dark and a stopped behavior will crop up else where as a result and it will be a negative one.
so after the stop action teach what you want instead do not leave a hole the dog needs to plug with something.
Use of these on a dog with fear is not a good idea as it creates more fear and the dogs that are being talked about are all showing lack of social skills and fear aggression.

JL

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by JenniferLeigh

Socialization is key. Lexi is 10 months at 9lbs - I've been taking her to offleash dog parks since she was 5 months old. I am fortunate that she is larger, but I do find most dogs are very gentle with her. I agree with Yorkie mother, if you are worried, she is probably picking up on it.

You can also try meetup.com, perhaps they have a small dog meetup in your area.

My 2 cents about the bark collar: If you feel like you may need to go in this route, talk to your vet before hand and do your research. People have strong opinions on this but imo if used properly it can be effective.

Have you talked to the guys at Sit Happens in Calgary? They used to have a group come in once a month I think with small dogs for a play time, Maybe worth your while to give Tammy a call and ask if since the move if they still have it. Tammy also has a great and I mean sticking amazing socialization class for puppies or did.

Just a thought.

JL

[Angelstarr]

I agree that if you don't teach your dog what he did wrong he will not know how to behave and will replace the behavior with fear or aggression. It stands to reason that is the same way anyone has to train even a child, by repetition, praise and reward.

I have done this with Cooper and I also do not believe that I will have to use this device more than another day or two. Thankfully it was loaned to me and I did Not have to purchase it.

I have had good luck with this and stand firm in my decision to use it. I Again emphase that I did not use the Shock portion only once and IF I had to purchase one or in the future do purchase one I will by the kind that has the tone correction only and that is hand held.

I do aprecieate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by Angelstarr

I agree that if you don't teach your dog what he did wrong he will not know how to behave and will replace the behavior with fear or aggression. It stands to reason that is the same way anyone has to train even a child, by repetition, praise and reward.


I do aprecieate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I agree with everyone is entitled to their own opinion but when posting I can get away with saying positive works and the fall out is nil and the danger is nil and it will take time as it is slower. You have more room to correct mistakes in your training... ok at the amateur level. You get high end trialing dogs you have no room for mistakes but that not a pet dog that is differnt.

With alpha rolls, prong collars, e Collars, spray collars... there is a fall out and it not always safe, good and can damage a dog.

As long as one can say yes this works but the risks are... dog can shut down, bad behaviour can pop up else were, fear can be increased, aggresion can be increased, going to a bite can be increased.... Then someone you are telling try this knows the risks... Oh and cause Cesar does it ( I know you did not say this) is not a good reason to do it to a dog cause that fellow does not always know the fall out or see a dog in shut down.

You be right on the if it works for kids it works for dogs....

Again it is ok to use what you want on your dog at anytime as he your belonging but when advice is give make sure those getting the advice know the fall out with some methods can lead a dog to be put down and has.

JL

[daisymae2012]

We will try to keep socializing her and maybe she will get better! Thanks for all of the suggestions!