Biting

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by DarlingDelilah

The only time her teeth are not on me is when she is asleep

Then I suggest that you put it on a cue... "chew" and teach the dog only do it when the cue is given. When you never use the cue it will extinguish the behavior and you have a dog not shewing on you.
Or the other suggestion is that if biting is a risk that habituate the dog to a muzzle and have that on when playing with you. Never leave a muzzle on in the heat or when alone and a dog can get hurt and or die.
Or teach it you are not a chew toy.
or call a trainer and get help... hands on or eyes on by a trainer may help find away to get it stopped.


JL

[roxies_mom]

Here's a link on puppies biting. Maybe it will help I don't know but it's worth a try. Dog Owner's Guide: "No bite!"

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by debbie912

Hi I had a male yorkie almost nine months old, we got him when he was seven months old. He is quite a biter and gets nasty when I take things away that he should not have. Not sure how to handle this situation. Also he constantly barks if the both of us leave the room and he is leashed or in the crate and the barking is getting on my nerves. Any suggestions?

I do not agree with putting the crate out of your site. The trick is not to reward the bad behavior by talking to them or letting them out when they are barking.

As for the biting, you need to let the dog know that you are the pack leader, and when he bites, instantly, snap and snal at him, if he continues, pick him up and place him on the floor, on his back, this can take some doing because he will fight it, then hold him there and growl. You can let him up when he relaxes. This is not mean a cruel and it does not hurt them. It is the language that they understand. they do not understand human language, and they do not understand "time outs". They do not hold grudges and will not fear you. They will just simply learn who is the pack leader.

I also suggest that you watch the Dog Whispere on the National Geographic channel, and/or get the EBook How to train my puppy at
How To Train My Puppy Fast Track System

Biting should never be allowed at any age.It is not a normal part of dog behavior, it is bad behavior from a dog that has not been properly socialized.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by DarlingDelilah

Don't feel bad. My dog is 7 weeks old and totally turns into a possessed animal at times. Her biting is Waaay out of control. I can't do anything with her. Like you, i've tried the can, i've popped her nose (which makes her worse) and now I'm trying ignoring her. But it's REALLY hard to ignore her while she's trying to detatch my baby toe.

You don't ignore her. First try yelping, and if that does not stop her, then give her a growl and a nip, just like her mother would do. Watch mother dogs with their bsbies, they don't allow the puppies to chew on them, and neither do the other puppies. If you want to communicatre with your dog, learn to speak their language. "NO Bite" is not part of their vocabulary.

Ignoring them just tells them that it's OK to do it.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Expand that do a double trade.... treat food then toy and tuck away the thing he should not have.... if you give it up you get a treat and also something else to have...No words non.. you can not train the word before the action you have to get quite before you teach the word.
You could make a dog sit on the word red not sit or stand on green... they do not understand the words.... Teach quite. catch it when he is quite or in the breath between reward that breath and you will see more then and only then when he starts to offer the quite do you use the word and give it a human cue.

JL

That is just rewarding the dog for taking things. Everytime they want a treat they will take something they shouldn't have. They are a lot smarter than you think.

Teach them to give you things. when they have a toy make them give it to you, then give it back to them. They should be taught to release when you tell them to.

The first few times, you might have to give them a low growl, but soon they will learn to give it up when you put your hand on it.

If they view you as the pack leader they will not argue with you.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by roxies_mom

Here's a link on puppies biting. Maybe it will help I don't know but it's worth a try. Dog Owner's Guide: "No bite!"

Very nice article well writen andwell thought out.


JL

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

That is just rewarding the dog for taking things. Everytime they want a treat they will take something they shouldn't have. They are a lot smarter than you think.

Teach them to give you things. when they have a toy make them give it to you, then give it back to them. They should be taught to release when you tell them to.

The first few times, you might have to give them a low growl, but soon they will learn to give it up when you put your hand on it.

If they view you as the pack leader they will not argue with you.

I am not a dog nor am I anyones pack leader... my dog/s are smart enough to tell I speak act and think like a human and they understand me far better most times then I them... yes but I have taken the time to learn them on their terms.... and work with not against them makes for more fun and good learning.
Although I am ok with my dogs talking in their language and telling in grr that they are not ok with what I am doing, I tend to not grr back a them as it can be seen as an challenge with some dogs I work with.... I like my face on my face not in its mouth.
I'd rather give calming signals and lip lick or yawn and calm it all down and play nice and ask.

True wild Dogs are not pack animals any way they are social network moving in and out of groups of ones and twos as resources allow and only get in large groups in dumps where they feed that is not a pack that is a mob and it mob mentality at work.
Your everyday get out of the house run at large groups of dogs are not packs either just mobs as well a band of dog that join kill hunt and terroirise at will and not a leader in sight.

What I had suggested is the start of give it to me... you should know you to teach the action before the word as well as dogs do not speak or understand in words like we do. We tend to over word our dogs.
Sit is not sit till we teach it and give it meaning we can teach the sit action on roll ove. green or cup dogs do not care.... they do it ti be with us.
.... I tend to use hand signs and word back up cause you never know when a dog may go blind or deaf.

When we get wrapped up in the words we think our dog are not listening and are rude and ignoring us or dominating use yeah teach the action and see it works.

If you teach trade me you teach give it as well after trade and you can even stop at trade. Once you got the dog on trade me you can put it on random reinforcement and do two trades for one treat then three , then one then five, make the skill you are teaching set in with a great reliability.

Makes for a long long post when you get all the inner works down but if you teach trade you got the job done in a nice short post...


JL

[roxies_mom]

Dogs do learn words. They understand sit, come, treat, stay etc. When you let them know biting is not exceptable with a no bite command they learn it. My cats even know what be nice and no bite means. Roxie knows no bite. When I used to have to tell her that she'd instantly stop or just start licking my hand.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by roxies_mom

Dogs do learn words. They understand sit, come, treat, stay etc. When you let them know biting is not exceptable with a no bite command they learn it. My cats even know what be nice and no bite means. Roxie knows no bite. When I used to have to tell her that she'd instantly stop or just start licking my hand.

They learn the word after the action not before.

You can name the sit action rump roast or the off action sit, or the down action jump.. it is in the learning of the action then the naming of it you get understanding of a word. Oh should we add dogs do not generalize either so the word sit in the kitchen does not mean sit in the bathroom or bedroom or outside..... you have to teach it a ton of times in a ton of places for then to generalize what sit means and that you mean it every time.

You get into trouble when you rap fire sit, sit , sit ,sit at a dog cause they do not understand what sit you mean sit on.

You get into trouble when you say sit in a sentence when it been taught as a single word action.

They do not understand words until meaning and an action is taught first.
The do not have English or Spanish or any form of verbal understanding at first.... but dogs do tend to understand our body language better and read us better that is why we get away with things we really should not.


JL

[mscat]

Originally Posted by roxies_mom

Dogs do learn words. They understand sit, come, treat, stay etc. When you let them know biting is not exceptable with a no bite command they learn it. My cats even know what be nice and no bite means. Roxie knows no bite. When I used to have to tell her that she'd instantly stop or just start licking my hand.

YES I agree ,

[mscat]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

You don't ignore her. First try yelping, and if that does not stop her, then give her a growl and a nip, just like her mother would do. Watch mother dogs with their bsbies, they don't allow the puppies to chew on them, and neither do the other puppies. If you want to communicatre with your dog, learn to speak their language. "NO Bite" is not part of their vocabulary.

Ignoring them just tells them that it's OK to do it.

I know the Yelping is what the best Dog trainers Do to train . That is why it is so important not to take A yorkie Pup away too early from it's littermates/mother. They need to learn these importat social skill cues. when it is missed, then there are problems that could have been easily avoided.

[YorkieMother]

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JL

[DarlingDelilah]

I feel like I started a war. We're gonna be okay. Everyone has great ideas. I appreciate all of them. We'll try them all and go with what works!

[Jacklynn]

I just started a thread almost just like this, I didn't see your thread before I posted. I have almost the same situation

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

I am not a dog nor am I anyones pack leader... my dog/s are smart enough to tell I speak act and think like a human and they understand me far better most times then I them... yes but I have taken the time to learn them on their terms.... and work with not against them makes for more fun and good learning.
Although I am ok with my dogs talking in their language and telling in grr that they are not ok with what I am doing, I tend to not grr back a them as it can be seen as an challenge with some dogs I work with.... I like my face on my face not in its mouth.
I'd rather give calming signals and lip lick or yawn and calm it all down and play nice and ask.


JL

I disagree with that. If you fear that the dog will bite you then it is clear that ethe dog sees you as submissive, and licking when they are behaving aggressive is what a subordinate dog would do.

The readers can make up thier own minds on what to do, and i doubt that I will change your mind. But you should never fear your pets. Now if you are working wsith strnage dogs, the advice would be totally different.f

But this person was asking about a yorkie puppy, not a full grown pitt bull. They do not understand human talk until they have been taught commands. But if they are biting you, you do not have the luxury of asking them kindly to trade a forbidden item for a treat.

And for the person who says her dog understands NO Bite and will start to lick her. Your dog should not be biting your hand in the first place. I never allowed mine to chew on me when they were puppies and they learned from the very beginning that they could not bite me in play or in anger.