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Old 08-29-2008, 02:32 PM   #16
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I find many things about the website objectionable, but the bows don't bother me. Statements like this do: "The Different Colors are Gene's pulled from the Ancestors years back, and when you get something "rare" such as PARTI YORKIE, CHOCOLATE YORKIE, or GOLDEN YORKIE you try to produce that "special" gene again. I have studied a lot about the Parti Yorkies and I am still Learning Everyday and I will try to explain how to Produce Parti Puppies."

Genes aren't pulled from way back; she didn't produce a "special gene" again. When two recessive genes are combined you will "see" the results. This is called a color fault, and she's breeding for it, yet the bows bother you?

This picture on her website sums it all up.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:42 PM   #17
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I find many things about the website objectionable, but the bows don't bother me. Statements like this do: "The Different Colors are Gene's pulled from the Ancestors years back, and when you get something "rare" such as PARTI YORKIE, CHOCOLATE YORKIE, or GOLDEN YORKIE you try to produce that "special" gene again. I have studied a lot about the Parti Yorkies and I am still Learning Everyday and I will try to explain how to Produce Parti Puppies."

Genes aren't pulled from way back; she didn't produce a "special gene" again. When two recessive genes are combined you will "see" the results. This is called a color fault, and she's breeding for it, yet the bows bother you?

This picture on her website sums it all up.

The pictures on that website were just used as an examble. I could have used any pictures from any webiste.
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I don't think she meant she disagreed with dressing dogs up...I think she just meant when it's done to try to market a dog or make a sale. At least, that was my take on it...
That was my intention. these pups are not old enough to enjoy being pampered or dressed up. The clothes hides the dog, their hair is not long enough for bows. Just show me a picture of the puppy, without all of the fru fru and silly gimmicks.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:49 PM   #19
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That was my intention. these pups are not old enough to enjoy being pampered or dressed up. The clothes hides the dog, their hair is not long enough for bows. Just show me a picture of the puppy, without all of the fru fru and silly gimmicks.
But Nancy made a valid point. I would be more concerned with her breeding habits then a bow
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I think the dress-up thing is very silly, especially posting dogs for shipping. I like the bows, but the clothing is a bit over the line.

I don't have a problem with seeing a lot of undressed pics of the dog, as long as the dog itself is shown from multiple angles with no clothing (bows aside).

They're all cute. All Yorkies are cute. As far as people putting them in a cup to advertise them, they're either very small, not ready to go to forever home dogs, or they're a teenyist, tinyest Yorkie that is nowhere near standard and is prone to health problems.

It's very sad that people want the tiny (teacup) Yorkies, not realizing that they can have a myriad of problems that the breed standard weights don't tend to.

I have one that I thought would get a little bigger, but she grew to an even three pounds. Right now, she's our alpha, and rules the house despite the fact the other dogs are bigger than she is. I worry all the time that she's going to have problems later in life.
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It does kind of irritate me--I feel like it's false advertising. I have never ONCE found a Yorkie in my coffee cup in the morning.
I busted out laughing when I ready your reply, that's so funny! I have to agree and I have coffee every morning, so you think that would better my chances!
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I find many things about the website objectionable, but the bows don't bother me. Statements like this do: "The Different Colors are Gene's pulled from the Ancestors years back, and when you get something "rare" such as PARTI YORKIE, CHOCOLATE YORKIE, or GOLDEN YORKIE you try to produce that "special" gene again. I have studied a lot about the Parti Yorkies and I am still Learning Everyday and I will try to explain how to Produce Parti Puppies."

Genes aren't pulled from way back; she didn't produce a "special gene" again. When two recessive genes are combined you will "see" the results. This is called a color fault, and she's breeding for it, yet the bows bother you?

This picture on her website sums it all up.
Nancy has it all wrapped up. I read almost all her posts. She makes me laugh, but because she's so right about everything. I don't have a lot of experience with canine genetics, but I do with human genetics. It's basically the same.

Genes are, to some extent, pulled from way back, but it's only because of carriers of recessive genes. As Nancy said, this person did not produce a "special gene." People don't introduce genes. Stay away from anyone who says they do. She simply bred for a recessive color.

I don't have a problem with breeding for color overall, but you can still introduce bad recessives. It's not worth it if you're introducing bad recessives. Do some research and you'll find out that's what caused hemophilia to become so prevalent among the French royalty. Many were carrying the recessive genes, and it became fairly common among them because they had to marry within the family.

I've seen that there are people now trying to breed blue-eyed Yorkies. Why? Don't we all like the big brown eyes?
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For whatever reason, it bugs me when I see pics of them next to the soda cans or a ruler by them. These are puppies and they are all small! I do feel like this is strictly to emphasize the size, like it's the most important thing.
I think the really big bows stuck on the heads of little puppies that hardly have hair, just looks silly!
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Now Im going to disagree...don't anyone throw a dish my way please.
I look at it this way, the breeder has taken the time to clean up their babies and make them adorable. To me, it shows that they are taken care of. My breeder did and does the same thing when she advertises her babies. I didn't buy Jezebel & Royal from her because they had bows and smelled nice, I bought them because they were exactly what I wanted. Buyer beware, do your homework. I will not judge a breeder because of a bow
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I do agree that cleaning up their babies is what should be expected of a quality puppy from a reputable breeder. It is buyer beware~you are entirely true in your statement. The internet is a scary place with a lot of dishonest people trying to sell to naive buyers. If you educate yourself then their will not be a problem because bows and teacups and clothes do not make the dog.
I dress both of mine up, put bows in their hair and cute little outfits on them all the time. I have lots of outfits for my 2 so it's not an issue of me not believing you should put clothes on a puppy. My hubby even likes when I dress them too which is funny in itself.

BTW I just checked out your store and your outfits are ADORABLE!!! What for an order from me!
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Nancy has it all wrapped up. I read almost all her posts. She makes me laugh, but because she's so right about everything.
SHHHHHHHH! Don't tell her that! What are you trying to do, give her a big head!?
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She is very wise , and I learned the hard way not to try and disagree with her , LOL . She knows her stuff backwards and forwards. Way to go Nancy.
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I've often wondered if my time spent here did any good, I have been told more than once my posts added no value, but this is the first time I have found so much support. Thank you all very much, you have no idea what this means to me. You have done what few people have done before, left me almost speechless.
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It doesn't make me mad, but what was does kind of irritate me is when they sit the soda cans next to them. Like they're saying, "LOOK HOW SMALL THIS IS?!?!?!!?!" Grrr My first picture of Bouncer before i got him, he was in a little sleigh and I have to admit I thought it was precious. His breeder though, is also an incredibly good breeder. I was thrilled with her puppies, her home, the way she treated her dogs. So I think it just depends
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I'm right there with ya - I hate it too I also want to see THE DOG - not a bunch of feathers and huge bows sticking out from the top of their heads In fact, when I look at a puppy, I like to see the SHAPE of their head - and it makes it hard when there is something bigger than the dog itself stuck on the top of it's head I think it's annoying.
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That happens to be in my blinkie because we took pics of Tea when we bought her at twelve weeks old. My family lives 800 miles from me, and we were trying to give them some sort of scale for how big she was at the time. It wasn't an advertisement.
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