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BamaFan121s 08-29-2008 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2210669)
your statements do indicate that standards might not be important
but they are...especially to the good breeders.
maybe do some more reading and research
for the betterment of the breed if you are breeding..
when you post on a public forum.. you are open to
I'm sorry, but this post confuses me. You are crossbreeding several breeds--"MorkiePoos"-- are you not--for which there IS no standard. So how then can you say that standards are important...expecially to good breeders--if you are not following that yourself? :confused:

durtymydawg 08-29-2008 10:08 PM
As Megansmomma had said it best....people are mean and judgmental when it comes to this site....I was just catagorized as a bad breeder being I'm not breeding to the standard. Just because I say my female is only 3.25 lbs and now is about 4.25lbs after whelping doesn't make her a total non-standard dog other than her weight...but now if I cont. to over feed her and put more weight on and she becomes 5 or 6lbs...then she's okay and up to standards. She's still the same dog but heavier. And now she'd be acceptable to breed being she fatter....go figure!!

I done with this sillyness. Its childish and immature!! Best of luck...

DvlshAngel985 08-29-2008 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by durtymydawg (Post 2210708)
As Megansmomma had said it best....people are mean and judgmental when it comes to this site....I was just catagorized as a bad breeder being I'm not breeding to the standard. Just because I say my female is only 3.25 lbs and now is about 4.25lbs after whelping doesn't make her a total non-standard dog other than her weight...but now if I cont. to over feed her and put more weight on and she becomes 5 or 6lbs...then she's okay and up to standards. She's still the same dog but heavier. And now she'd be acceptable to breed being she fatter....go figure!!

I done with this sillyness. Its childish and immature!! Best of luck...
I'm a little confused...when did this no longer become about "designer pups"?
I'm sorry people felt put on the spot, but from what I remember, and of course this is my own opinion, I thought this was a good discussion. Obviously the OP knew this wasn't going to be a straight forward thread, but I thought that was the point...
People for, people against, and the ones in between were stating their opinions and cracked a few jokes here and there (all in good fun) and to me it all seemed informative and I can see where people were coming from.

cesar49 08-29-2008 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2210702)
I'm sorry, but this post confuses me. You are crossbreeding several breeds--"MorkiePoos"-- are you not--for which there IS no standard. So how then can you say that standards are important...expecially to good breeders--if you are not following that yourself? :confused:
i also have a yorkie akc... you certainly dont know me.. but i do believe that standards are important.. please stop apologizing for your confusion.
its very insincere:animal-pa

yorkiekist 08-29-2008 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2210737)
i also have a yorkie akc... you certainly dont know me.. but i do believe that standards are important.. please stop apologizing for your confusion.
its very insincere:animal-pa
Actually, I am a little confused also. To what standard are you breeding? Yorkies and Poodles have two distinct and different standards. How does that help you in your breeding program?

YodyGirl 08-29-2008 11:07 PM
Hey, I think pups r cute also, but I agree with the other ladies. To me a designer dog is what you find in the pounds. It's a mix breed, and a lot of people are now just making pups for money. It's sad, there are sooo many pound puppies, some die, others are waiting for someone to love them.

cesar49 08-29-2008 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2210742)
Actually, I am a little confused also. To what standard are you breeding? Yorkies and Poodles have two distinct and different standards. How does that help you in your breeding program?
i cannot share my breeding plans with you.. but i do have high standards..
not trying to make teacups..:eek: the yorkipoo is the perfect pet in my eyes:p cute and smart
.. you can judge me if you want.. i can take it..
i am not breeding any 3 lb females..
and:eek:
getting dogs fat to get to 5 lbs is just STUPID:animal-pa
constructive criticism is welcomed:animal-pa

yorkiekist 08-29-2008 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2210752)
i cannot share my breeding plans with you.. but i do have high standards..
not trying to make teacups..:eek: the yorkipoo is the perfect pet in my eyes:p cute and smart
.. you can judge me if you want.. i can take it..
i am not breeding any 3 lb females..
and:eek:
getting dogs fat to get to 5 lbs is just STUPID:animal-pa
constructive criticism is welcomed:animal-pa
Why, are you afraid I will steal them?LOL I think you are mis-interpreting "breed standard" with "breeding practices". Where do you get the idea that I am judging you? I am just asking a question. I could care less if you breed a chihuahua to a great dane if it makes you happy. I am just wondering to what standard are you breeding if you are breeding mixes? YOur mixes do not have a standard.

yorkieisme 08-30-2008 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2210355)
I received this email, I wont say from whom but would you consider it an attack?
She Wrote::You know his coloring is a disqualification to the breed? Why would anyone
want to breed a major fault, (and according to AKC breed standard it is
literally a disqualification)for the betterment of the breed? It doesn't
matter what his blood line looks like, the fact that his colors are a
complete disqualification to the breed standard is enough for any
RESPONSIBLE breeder to not breed to.

I replied ::that it wasnt any of her business, and if she couldnt say anything nice ,dont say anything at all.

She replied:I made no derogatory comment except there is no way that is a full blooded yorkie. If we did DNA tests properly on that line, there is definitely one that is not properly documented. Ask any breeder; there is no way on that coloring especially with it being a fault. Good luck with your breedings.


Yorkie or not......I still believe your baby is BEAUTIFUL. That e-mail was uncalled for if you ask me and mean. Some people need to get a life. Maybe you should have asked her if she has been DNA for any "human" lines to see if she was "full blooded" human.

yorkieisme 08-30-2008 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by durtymydawg (Post 2210697)
There again your implications makes people think that I would be not a good person or breeder to purchase from by your statements. Something that you have no clue of...and then telling me that I need to read some more books....just stick to bashing more people with your kind words....I'll stick to just reading the "funnies"....and of course breeding my so called non-standard Yorkies. Oh, by the way...no offense.
Reading books about breeding is great, however we all know that hands on is a learning tool. Also I wouldn't take what she stated to heart. She does have Gus Gus and the last I checked he was not the standard to a yorkie.

I'm not saying I disagree with designer dogs, I think this should be the their choice when buying or breeding. This type of breeding does not take food from my table nor does breeding anything else except humans (taxes).

Breezeaway 08-30-2008 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2210815)
Yorkie or not......I still believe your baby is BEAUTIFUL. That e-mail was uncalled for if you ask me and mean. Some people need to get a life. Maybe you should have asked her if she has been DNA for any "human" lines to see if she was "full blooded" human.
LOL, I guess I should have.

cesar49 08-30-2008 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2210772)
Why, are you afraid I will steal them?LOL I think you are mis-interpreting "breed standard" with "breeding practices". Where do you get the idea that I am judging you? I am just asking a question. I could care less if you breed a chihuahua to a great dane if it makes you happy. I am just wondering to what standard are you breeding if you are breeding mixes? YOur mixes do not have a standard.
i said i have high standards..but you are right about breeding practices.
since there are no laws to protect dogs, anyone can breed them..
breeding a chihuaha to a great dane is just ridiculous.. but a yorkie and a poodle are a great mix.. the purebred dogs of course have standards..
a breeder is supposed to look at the standards and use it to choose
which dogs to breed.. as stated in earlier postings, the dogs bred together should be good examples of their breed with none or few flaws..
even when mixing a breed.
you dont know what you will get when mixing different breeds..
but so far, it has been a good surprise..
my purebred yorkie puppies were also very nice.. i have mixes and purebred yorkies..
so i do see both sides of the story..

still learning something new every day:animal-pa

cesar49 08-30-2008 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2210824)
Reading books about breeding is great, however we all know that hands on is a learning tool. Also I wouldn't take what she stated to heart. She does have Gus Gus and the last I checked he was not the standard to a yorkie.

I'm not saying I disagree with designer dogs, I think this should be the their choice when buying or breeding. This type of breeding does not take food from my table nor does breeding anything else except humans (taxes).
gus gus is a yorkipoo.. 75% yorkie .. 2nd generation..
dont pick on gus gus.. he had a rough week:animal-pa

durtymydawg 08-30-2008 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 2210730)
I'm a little confused...when did this no longer become about "designer pups"?
I'm sorry people felt put on the spot, but from what I remember, and of course this is my own opinion, I thought this was a good discussion. Obviously the OP knew this wasn't going to be a straight forward thread, but I thought that was the point...
People for, people against, and the ones in between were stating their opinions and cracked a few jokes here and there (all in good fun) and to me it all seemed informative and I can see where people were coming from.
Not when you imply that someone is a poor breeder and I'm sorry your implications can hurt people whether its their feelings or their reputations as a breeder....or hobbyist or whatever someone may label you...BYB!!

Your right about about the original Poster...that's me!! I posted it and knew it was going to be questionable and that's why I asked...to see what and how people felt....but not to be judge and labeled a poor or non quality breeder...just because I breed my female who at the time weighed 3.25lbs. See this is where there are some that are full of BS and others that can look at an animal and see that just because of smaller weight doesn't mean she can't breed. Yes, she did pass one pup and then had to have a csection, of which doesn't mean a thing...being all 3 pups where on one side of the uterous...but thats beside the point. To each there own.

durtymydawg 08-30-2008 05:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2210752)
i cannot share my breeding plans with you.. but i do have high standards..
not trying to make teacups..:eek: the yorkipoo is the perfect pet in my eyes:p cute and smart
.. you can judge me if you want.. i can take it..
i am not breeding any 3 lb females..
and:eek:
getting dogs fat to get to 5 lbs is just STUPID:animal-pa
constructive criticism is welcomed:animal-pa
See this is where you only pick up what you want from what I said....plain ignorance!!!!!!


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