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06-27-2008, 01:36 PM | #1 |
YT Addict | Akc Vs. Aca Ok, I am very new to owning my yorkie. This may sound like a stupid question but can anyone tell me the diff. between the ACA and the AKC? I am getting to send off the papers for the ownership transfer to the ACA for my little one. I just wondered what the diff. is. |
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06-27-2008, 01:43 PM | #2 |
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06-27-2008, 02:07 PM | #3 | |
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It's not a stupid question, and very few people will give you a straight answer because too many people have a vested interest. The other registries are considered "paper" registries. They were created in an attempt to mislead buyers into thinking that there dog was "registered". When the AKC cracked down on breeders many of these alternative registries popped up. This is not to imply that all AKC breeders are good, but that should be the first step in finding a good breeder. If you can only register with the ACA I see no point in registering him. I only registered my dog with the AKC because I wanted to support them financially in the work they were doing in trying to raise breeding conditions.
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06-27-2008, 02:22 PM | #4 | |
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There are good and bad breeders in any registry you find. Don't assume that the registry alone indicates an ethical breeder or quality dog. Granted, alternative registries let alot slide and allow things AKC shouldn't so you do have to excercise more caution. All the more reason for people to educate themselves on what makes a good breeder and quality representation, and focus on that and how they and the registry they decide to use best suits their goals and what they are looking for. Congrats on being a new Yorkie owner and welcome to YT. | |
06-27-2008, 02:36 PM | #5 | |
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Many breeders have gone to clubs other than AKC because they do not require the DNA testing and to register a litter it is cheaper than AKC. CKC, Continental Kennel Club, (not Canadian) does not charge the breeder anything to register a litter. The cost is all passed onto the buyer of the puppy. Many breeders have found these alternate registries as a way to cut costs. My dogs are not registered with AKC, because they are not accepted yet, not because I try to cut costs. They are registered with Germany though, and that tends to cost a lot more than AKC registration. Will I switch to AKC when we are allow? You bet ya!!! I do know that CKC will allow the Biewers to be registered, as I sold a girl as a pet to a lady and she registered her with CKC and was going to breed her. CKC would not give me the papers, even though I still had the girl's German papers. I did not ask about it when I got her back. CKC papers are basically worthless to me. CKC, APRi and others will register animals from mixed breedings and also will register a dog as a purebreed dog if you send pictures and a couple of signatures. The dog may be a mix that looks like a yorkie and you could get yorkie papers on it! Not credible in my book. | |
06-27-2008, 02:42 PM | #6 |
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06-27-2008, 05:30 PM | #8 | |
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What are you trying to accomplish by registering him? Does the ACA have programs that you believe in? See this link for more information, like I said anyone can start a registry. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ieve-site.html
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06-27-2008, 05:32 PM | #9 |
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| Is Bruno going to be a pet, or is he suppose to be for breeding and show? If he is going to be a pet, then you don't need to get the ACA paperwork. If he is going to be for show, you need to think about getting a dog with AKC credentials ... just my opinion. |
06-27-2008, 05:34 PM | #10 |
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06-27-2008, 05:39 PM | #11 |
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| Yes, thank you. I show most of the puppies that I plan on breeding, as I want to make sure that I am only breeding good quality dogs. I know what I like, but the judges can sometimes see things that I have missed. I then have to decide if I think the puppy can be improved or if I need to rethink breeding that individual. |
06-27-2008, 05:42 PM | #12 | |
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06-27-2008, 05:52 PM | #13 | |
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Bruno is our pet. I my decide to breed him later, not sure yet. I know that both of his parents are reg. with the ACA as is the litter he came from. I did not get him from a breeder. The lady I did get him from did and gave me the breeders info. seems like everyone is saying if i cant reg. him AKC it's pointless reg. him at all. Like the ACA is nothing. | |
06-27-2008, 05:53 PM | #14 |
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| Thank you! It was not always this way though. I started out with a yorkiepoo. (Still have her, Michelle) Then went to poodles, that I did not show (Yep, have my original girl too, Gracie). This had been a great learning experience, but with the Biewers I want to do the "right thing." I guess everyone has to start somewhere, even if I am not proud of the past it is what it is. I take the quality, health, and happiness of my dogs very seriously. I also check into the people that want one of my puppies for pet or breeding. I do more than just check the references that they give to me. I know that the shows are not AKC, but they are what we have available to us at this time. The dogs are not my livelyhood (I teach school), they are my passion. I have at least 2 dogs in my bedroom everynight, more if there is not a litter of puppies in there. (have to keep most of the others out, so the mama does not get upset and they don't bother the babies.) Those at the meet-up met Murphy, one of my boys. He is totaly devoted to me and frets whenever he cannot be with me. He has been this way since he landed in the US (how he knew right away, I will never know!) I had better quit, as I can talk about my babies FOREVER!!! |
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