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[jrsygal37]

I do not understand how ANYONE could allow their dog to get in this condition. Any breeder whether they have a so called good breeding program or not that gives this kind of lack of care is no better then a puppy mill in my opinion. Since, this is not the first problem with health that someone has had with one of her dogs I feel that it's not jumping the gun or misjudging her in saying this. That poor dog and poor Timmy's girl (Don't forget) and who knows how many other dogs whose Owners may not have access or know about this site to post. I truly hope that your girl pulls out of this and thank you for caring enough to try to help her. She will repay you for all you've done for her. Elaine

[spr377]

Originally Posted by michiko

oh ... and my infamous thread...... good thing I asked Admin to close but for your reference...

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...-me-write.html


And this is Timmy's story.. Timmy got a pup from Syvan Yorkies and the pup passed away.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/mem...dn-t-make.html

I am so sorry you didn't get your papers!! What a heart-wrenching story from Timmy!! What was wrong with little Lily that she needed surgery?

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by spr377

I am so sorry you didn't get your papers!! What a heart-wrenching story from Timmy!! What was wrong with little Lily that she needed surgery?

I'll answer that. Timmy is a good friend of mine. She got Lilly after Stacy advertised that she had a slight (Barely detectable heart murmur). Timmy took Lilly to the vet immediately after getting her and her vet told her she had a severe heart problem (Can't remember what the correct diagnoses was) and needed immediate surgery or she would die. Timmy, spent I think it was $2,500 to have her heart corrected and sadly Lilly passed away before the next morning. Timmy went through so much but happily she now has a new little one that she got through rescue but I know she still misses Lilly. In the little time she had her, she really loved her and was very attatched.

Elaine

[spr377]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I'll answer that. Timmy is a good friend of mine. She got Lilly after Stacy advertised that she had a slight (Barely detectable heart murmur). Timmy took Lilly to the vet immediately after getting her and her vet told her she had a severe heart problem (Can't remember what the correct diagnoses was) and needed immediate surgery or she would die. Timmy, spent I think it was $2,500 to have her heart corrected and sadly Lilly passed away before the next morning. Timmy went through so much but happily she now has a new little one that she got through rescue but I know she still misses Lilly. In the little time she had her, she really loved her and was very attatched.

Elaine

How awful!!! I'm glad that poor little Lilly had the love of your friend, during her short little life. This Stacy person must not have much of a conscience

[LuvmyYorkies2]

I feel sorry for any dogs in a breeding program such as that...to let the teeth or any health problem get to a "life & death" state is unconceivable. I can understand and respect a breeder for selling a dog that has a potential health concern/problem that may eventually need to be corrected and is forthcoming with that info from the very beginning. But to let a dog go that long and suffer...that's someone I would not want to buy from.

Everyone may have a bad case out of many but there seems to be just to many from the same circle here.

Praying Mia can recover and live a happy, healthy life with you!

[kwaymon]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I do not understand how ANYONE could allow their dog to get in this condition. Any breeder whether they have a so called good breeding program or not that gives this kind of lack of care is no better then a puppy mill in my opinion. Since, this is not the first problem with health that someone has had with one of her dogs I feel that it's not jumping the gun or misjudging her in saying this. That poor dog and poor Timmy's girl (Don't forget) and who knows how many other dogs whose Owners may not have access or know about this site to post. I truly hope that your girl pulls out of this and thank you for caring enough to try to help her. She will repay you for all you've done for her. Elaine

This situation is just really upsetting. Letting a dog's teeth get into such a condition that it could kill them is absolutely ridiculous!! They cannot care for their teeth as a child cannot care for theirs! They depend on us for that care! CPS would have a problem with a child with deteriorating teeth. Where are those that can protect these animals!? I hope your Mia pulls through. I know what heartache you must be feeling. You will be in our thoughts and prayers.

[kathy785]

My question is this.... What kind of reputable breeder sells retired girls without spaying them first? The YT ad for Mia is over a year ago. There has been plenty of time for this breeder to have Mia spayed and her teeth cleaned. Maybe if that had been done poor Mia would not be suffering now!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by kathy785

My question is this.... What kind of reputable breeder sells retired girls without spaying them first? The YT ad for Mia is over a year ago. There has been plenty of time for this breeder to have Mia spayed and her teeth cleaned. Maybe if that had been done poor Mia would not be suffering now!

Thats exactly what I thought when I saw the sale post that Michiko posted. It bothered me to read that she didn't play with toys - it's probably because it HURTS HER TEETH

Mia is just adorable and shouldn't have been neglected to the point that her teeth are this bad at such a young age.....and to try to sell a 5 year old with such bad teeth and issues for $900.00 even if it was a year ago... is pretty sad. I'm really dissapointed in Sylvan Yorkies - I USED to think she cared about her dogs but it just goes to show that a breeder can act like a great breeder - it doesn't mean they are. )

A breeder should put their dogs first - not the money.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Thats exactly what I thought when I saw the sale post that Michiko posted. It bothered me to read that she didn't play with toys - it's probably because it HURTS HER TEETH

Oh Vee, your comment just made me tear up. Can you imagine a little baby not being able to play with toys because her tiny little teeth hurt too much? Just about breaks my heart. All of my kids LOVE their toys so much and they play with them every single day. We toss them back and forth and play tug-o-war and Jim even lifts Tia and Codie up in the air by their toys and they hang on with their teeth because they are so healthy and strong.

PLEASE keep us updated on little Mia's condition. Poor baby.

[Bizzymammabee]

This situation just gets more horrible as the time ticks on. You have to wonder if she disclosed the seizure problem when she sold this beautiful baby. I have no idea how she could have let her teeth deteriorate to that point. More and more it seems like the dogs are just a commodity to her and not what she represented...I mean come on you breed her until you can't and never bother to see to her teeth and whatever else she needs. Even if she was with someone else for a few months there is no way that her teeth could have deterioriated that badly in the course of that time. I totally agree that she should never have rehomed this baby the last time or this time intact. Personally knowing what I know about her from the whole Michiko and Timmy issues coupled with this I am disgusted.

When I lost Lulu and was posting about it Stacy's Daughter sent me a pm....she started off offering her condolences and then went on in subsequent emails to let me know her mom is a breeder and a member on YT and that she probably had puppies if I were interested. At first I thought I was dealing with a sweet young lady. Then as I thought about things honestly I started to wonder if I was actually talking to Stacy...I wondered if she was coming onto YT under her daughter's screen name and possibly seeking out sales that way. I am glad that in all my grief and need for a new baby that I didn't fall into that. God only knows I would probably have ended up with a sick dog.

[Patti]

Breaks my heart to see poor Mia like that. WHY wouldn't she at least spay and do dental BEFORE rehoming her. She had to know that the poor baby needed this desperately. Sounds like she knew she was too sick to go under anesthesia and didn't want to risk losing being able to sell her. Praying Mia can get healthy and pain free and know how much fun life can be with the right Mom.

[Bizzymammabee]

Originally Posted by Patti

Breaks my heart to see poor Mia like that. WHY wouldn't she at least spay and do dental BEFORE rehoming her. She had to know that the poor baby needed this desperately. Sounds like she knew she was too sick to go under anesthesia and didn't want to risk losing being able to sell her. Praying Mia can get healthy and pain free and know how much fun life can be with the right Mom.

Any which way you look at the situation it was about the $$. If she put her under to spay and do the dental she could lose her and be out the cost of the procedures and the possible sale of the female. So she chose to not do either and sold and resold her after she made money off of her previous litters. She essentially traded this baby like some sort of commodity on the market. Not any better than a puppy mill owner in my opinion.

[RMKC]

This is soo sad that poor beautiful little girl i pray that your Vet can help her, and she can the have rest of her life all the love and pampering she deserves ! Please let us know how she does !

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

Oh Vee, your comment just made me tear up. Can you imagine a little baby not being able to play with toys because her tiny little teeth hurt too much? Just about breaks my heart. All of my kids LOVE their toys so much and they play with them every single day. We toss them back and forth and play tug-o-war and Jim even lifts Tia and Codie up in the air by their toys and they hang on with their teeth because they are so healthy and strong.

PLEASE keep us updated on little Mia's condition. Poor baby.

Me too Jen ....my apt looks like Romper Room sometimes with all the toys my girls play with. I pick them up - they take them right back ....If they stopped playing... I'd know right away something was wrong.

I can't imagine any yorkie with no energy to play....

We all know what a toothache feels like so she's obviously been living in serious pain for a while now & THAT IS JUST WRONG ...not pointing fingers.... but someone should have done something a long time ago when it was discovered her little teeth were so bad off.

Bless her heart - she's a little doll and didn't deserve to be so neglected.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

This situation just gets more horrible as the time ticks on. You have to wonder if she disclosed the seizure problem when she sold this beautiful baby. I have no idea how she could have let her teeth deteriorate to that point. More and more it seems like the dogs are just a commodity to her and not what she represented...I mean come on you breed her until you can't and never bother to see to her teeth and whatever else she needs. Even if she was with someone else for a few months there is no way that her teeth could have deterioriated that badly in the course of that time. I totally agree that she should never have rehomed this baby the last time or this time intact. Personally knowing what I know about her from the whole Michiko and Timmy issues coupled with this I am disgusted.

When I lost Lulu and was posting about it Stacy's Daughter sent me a pm....she started off offering her condolences and then went on in subsequent emails to let me know her mom is a breeder and a member on YT and that she probably had puppies if I were interested. At first I thought I was dealing with a sweet young lady. Then as I thought about things honestly I started to wonder if I was actually talking to Stacy...I wondered if she was coming onto YT under her daughter's screen name and possibly seeking out sales that way. I am glad that in all my grief and need for a new baby that I didn't fall into that. God only knows I would probably have ended up with a sick dog.

not right ! to take you at your most vunerable and try to sell you a puppy ? Lord...except for checking on Mia I'm not saying another word about this 'breeder' I hope she takes a serious look at what she's been doing and makes some serious changes in her life for ALL her dogs sake.