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erino77 · 06-07-2008, 07:08 PM

Soooo, Kammie just settled down beside me and I noticed a fresh minty smell at the same time

......wellllllll you can probably see where this is going. I looked down at her and my sweet Kammie has GUM strung through her face and totally smeared into her right front BOTTOM SIDE of her paw!!

Her face I am working with by rubbing peanut butter into her fur and slowly working the gum out. But I am stumped on how I am going to do her paw. The gum is up in between her pads and just a mess. Not little pieces either but a globs of it. Any ideas? It's nothing I would feel comfortable cutting at either due to the location. Her paws are so little and I would feel horrible if I cut her pads or skin.
BTW it's Orbit Maui Melon Mint (it's yummy

)...one of my kids must have lost it

thanks guys

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:04 PM

Oh gosh, I dunno with her being so small. Did you try calling the vet asn asking them what would work to take it out? Is it Orbit gum that is dangerous to dogs? I can't remember. I know there was an article I read somewhere about something in gum being very toxic to dogs. Someone, can anyone tell me if it's the orbit gum or not? Hope you're able to get it all out and she doesn't get sick.

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:05 PM

Here's a link to a gum warning, might wanna check the ingredients of it.

Xylitol Toxicity: A Warning to All Dog Owners

zoeybear · 06-07-2008, 08:08 PM

My Schnauzer used to turn over the trash or dig in peoples purses. She would do anything to get gum (new or used). I always went with the peanut butter. I figured if she licked the peanut butter I knew it was safe. Good luck!

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:12 PM

I just read an article at:

Popular Sweetener is Toxic for Dogs

Here is a small clip of it:

It is also beginning to be used in a broad assortment of products intended for the general public, including Jell-O sugar-free puddings and a wide variety of sugar-free gums such as Trident, Orbit, Stride, Icebreakers and Altoids.

You may wanna call an ER vet to be safe, she may have ingested some of it.

erino77 · 06-07-2008, 08:13 PM

OMG! Xylitol is ingredient #6 out of 11. She has not shown any signs of the warning symptoms. I really don't know how much she actually ingested, from looking at the amount ON her she couldn't have taken IN that much. This is what part of that article said.....

"Our concern used to be mainly with products that contain xylitol as one of the first ingredients,"
said Dr. Eric Dunayer, who specializes in toxicology at the center. "However, we have begun to see
problems developing from ingestions of products with lesser amounts of this sweetener." Dr.
Dunayer said that with smaller concentrations of xylitol, the onset of clinical signs could be
delayed as much as 12 hours after ingestion.
.....
I am going to call my Vet right now. Why do these kind of things have to happen at midnight on a Saturday????

Thank you sooo much for pointing this out. I would have never considered this fact

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:18 PM

Please, please read this article NOW! I hope this isn't the kind of gum your lil one got into, if so, if I were you, I'd get to an emergency vet NOW.

snopes.com: Xylitol Deadly to Dogs

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erino77

OMG! Xylitol is ingredient #6 out of 11. She has not shown any signs of the warning symptoms. I really don't know how much she actually ingested, from looking at the amount ON her she couldn't have taken IN that much. This is what part of that article said.....

"Our concern used to be mainly with products that contain xylitol as one of the first ingredients,"
said Dr. Eric Dunayer, who specializes in toxicology at the center. "However, we have begun to see
problems developing from ingestions of products with lesser amounts of this sweetener." Dr.
Dunayer said that with smaller concentrations of xylitol, the onset of clinical signs could be
delayed as much as 12 hours after ingestion.
.....
I am going to call my Vet right now. Why do these kind of things have to happen at midnight on a Saturday????

Thank you sooo much for pointing this out. I would have never considered this fact

OMG Erin, I am sitting here praying like crazy that your lil one will be ok. Another article I read said time is key here, they have to be treated fast because it gets into their system very quickly. Please, please keep me updated on how she's doing. Please, if you're able, take her to the ER vet or your vet if he does ER calls. I'm so worried for you. Saying many prayers for you and your lil one right now.

YorkichonBella · 06-07-2008, 08:44 PM

oh No, I am so glad you posted this thread so you could find this out though! I am hoping and praying that Kammie will be ok!

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 08:46 PM

I hope and pray she's at the ER vet right now. I'm reading other articles on it now and it's nothing good. Saying so many prayers for her and her lil one.

erino77 · 06-07-2008, 09:18 PM

ok called our vet and right now were on a waiting game. Since she didn't take in more than 2 pcs at the most, which I know for sure because it's the 1st pack I have ever bought and there is only 2 pcs out of it and I personally had 1 of them. so it's from my 4yr old leaving his somewhere. I am to give her 1-2cc's of hydrogen peroxide every 5-10 minutes for 4 doses. She needs to empty her stomache of the xylitol. We have given 1 dose of 2cc and have 3 min till next should be given. she may not vomit till morning he said but she should fairly sooner than that given her size. I have to watch for walking in circles, running itno walls, seizures due to sugar dropping. If this occures we take her in immediately and call him on the way. He knows where we live and the distnace we have to get to hiom so thats our orders.., m Also supposed to stay up with her all night and watch her 100% of the time.
check back in a few time for dose

wemple2 · 06-07-2008, 09:21 PM

I certainly hope her baby is alright. The articles were an eye opener...I never knew this. YT never fails to amaze me...thank you so much for posting this. I pray that she didn't consume any of the gum...maybe getting it in her hair and paw kept her from actually eating it. Please be alright little girl...

Beabble · 06-07-2008, 09:39 PM

Erin, thank you for the update and I'm so glad you were able to get a hold of your vet and get treatment started. Saying prayers that your lil one will be ok. Do you have Nurtrical or Kayro on hand?

Judy in Waco · 06-07-2008, 10:08 PM

Sending prayers to you both! I am so glad you were able to contact your vet. Thank you so much for this information. I didn't know about Xylitol either.

erino77 · 06-07-2008, 11:01 PM

ok well my baby is sleeping on my lap right now. and I just want to cry for this happening

She HATED the hydrogen peroxide like nothing I ahve ever seen! It was horrible holding her there so trustingly then using the dropper to put it in her mouth and her starting to fight me with swallowing it. I went with the higher end of 2 cc the first and 2nd time cause i had a feeling she wasn't going to swallow it well. figured a better chance of getting the most in with her fighting was to go the higher dose. She coughed and acted like she was dry heaving after the 2nd dose but nothing came up and out, gave 3rd dose of 1 1/2 cc still just some choking like she was gonna throw up gave 4th dose of 1 1/2cc and immediatly , we didn't even have her off the counter yet she started bringing everything up. supper from 10pm, YY treats from right before 11 and what looks to be very little bits and pieces of gum. Vet said if she started tonight with emptying her stomache she will continue to do so for a couple of hours, with that amount of hydrogen peroxide. Rigth now she is resting on my lap, I have a pee pad between me and her to catch any mess. All my poor baby wants to do is go to night night time. Right now is when I usually get ready tto lay down and she is confused with why we're still up. This couldn't have happened at the worse time. Koda and Kammie stay up and snuggle with me till I get off the puter then Koda heads up stairs to sleep with DH and lately I have been crashing on our ohhhh soooo comfy couch due to back/neck problems from our bed. Anyways Kammie snuggles down under the covers till she is right by my belly and curls up like a kitten and goes to sleep till I get up in the mornig. She keeps looking at me like, alright mom, its bedtime,,, she wants to curl up under the blankets and get some sleep but if i lay down i will be out. i need to stay here online all night to stay awake to watch her

luckily DH gets up early so he will take over watching her till the vet calls us after breakfast and tells us what to do from there. So

So sorry that got long and drawn out. I had taken my Ambien CR right before I saw the post about xylitol being deadly to our babies and its(the ambien) kicking in full effect, I just nead to stay awake!! 3 more hours!!
Kammie keeps making me nervous, I have an oscillating fan on and whenever it comes her way she jumps or kinda fliches a little bit. Everytime she does that my heart skips a beat thinking she is going into a seizure. Both of my younger skin boys have had febrile seizures so I know signs and all, plus I worked in a nursing home for 10 years as a state tested nursing assistant so I have a little bit of knowledge, lol!

ok ske is starting to stir around check bacj laterff

06-07-2008, 07:08 PM	#1
erino77 Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,503	Houston, we have an Orbit GUM problem!!! Soooo, Kammie just settled down beside me and I noticed a fresh minty smell at the same time......wellllllll you can probably see where this is going. I looked down at her and my sweet Kammie has GUM strung through her face and totally smeared into her right front BOTTOM SIDE of her paw!! Her face I am working with by rubbing peanut butter into her fur and slowly working the gum out. But I am stumped on how I am going to do her paw. The gum is up in between her pads and just a mess. Not little pieces either but a globs of it. Any ideas? It's nothing I would feel comfortable cutting at either due to the location. Her paws are so little and I would feel horrible if I cut her pads or skin. BTW it's Orbit Maui Melon Mint (it's yummy)...one of my kids must have lost it thanks guys

06-07-2008, 08:04 PM	#2
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	Oh gosh, I dunno with her being so small. Did you try calling the vet asn asking them what would work to take it out? Is it Orbit gum that is dangerous to dogs? I can't remember. I know there was an article I read somewhere about something in gum being very toxic to dogs. Someone, can anyone tell me if it's the orbit gum or not? Hope you're able to get it all out and she doesn't get sick. __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 08:05 PM	#3
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	Here's a link to a gum warning, might wanna check the ingredients of it. Xylitol Toxicity: A Warning to All Dog Owners __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 08:08 PM	#4
zoeybear Misssing Baby Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,186	My Schnauzer used to turn over the trash or dig in peoples purses. She would do anything to get gum (new or used). I always went with the peanut butter. I figured if she licked the peanut butter I knew it was safe. Good luck! __________________ We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. -M. Acklam

06-07-2008, 08:12 PM	#5
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	I just read an article at: Popular Sweetener is Toxic for Dogs Here is a small clip of it: It is also beginning to be used in a broad assortment of products intended for the general public, including Jell-O sugar-free puddings and a wide variety of sugar-free gums such as Trident, Orbit, Stride, Icebreakers and Altoids. You may wanna call an ER vet to be safe, she may have ingested some of it. __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 08:13 PM	#6
erino77 Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,503	OMG! Xylitol is ingredient #6 out of 11. She has not shown any signs of the warning symptoms. I really don't know how much she actually ingested, from looking at the amount ON her she couldn't have taken IN that much. This is what part of that article said..... "Our concern used to be mainly with products that contain xylitol as one of the first ingredients," said Dr. Eric Dunayer, who specializes in toxicology at the center. "However, we have begun to see problems developing from ingestions of products with lesser amounts of this sweetener." Dr. Dunayer said that with smaller concentrations of xylitol, the onset of clinical signs could be delayed as much as 12 hours after ingestion. ..... I am going to call my Vet right now. Why do these kind of things have to happen at midnight on a Saturday???? Thank you sooo much for pointing this out. I would have never considered this fact

06-07-2008, 08:18 PM	#7
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	Please, please read this article NOW! I hope this isn't the kind of gum your lil one got into, if so, if I were you, I'd get to an emergency vet NOW. snopes.com: Xylitol Deadly to Dogs __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 08:44 PM	#9
YorkichonBella My little Shadow Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 4,132 Blog Entries: 2	oh No, I am so glad you posted this thread so you could find this out though! I am hoping and praying that Kammie will be ok! __________________ Bella Ganma-ma to ColeRIPNoahRIP

06-07-2008, 08:46 PM	#10
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	I hope and pray she's at the ER vet right now. I'm reading other articles on it now and it's nothing good. Saying so many prayers for her and her lil one. __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 09:18 PM	#11
erino77 Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,503	ok called our vet and right now were on a waiting game. Since she didn't take in more than 2 pcs at the most, which I know for sure because it's the 1st pack I have ever bought and there is only 2 pcs out of it and I personally had 1 of them. so it's from my 4yr old leaving his somewhere. I am to give her 1-2cc's of hydrogen peroxide every 5-10 minutes for 4 doses. She needs to empty her stomache of the xylitol. We have given 1 dose of 2cc and have 3 min till next should be given. she may not vomit till morning he said but she should fairly sooner than that given her size. I have to watch for walking in circles, running itno walls, seizures due to sugar dropping. If this occures we take her in immediately and call him on the way. He knows where we live and the distnace we have to get to hiom so thats our orders.., m Also supposed to stay up with her all night and watch her 100% of the time. check back in a few time for dose

06-07-2008, 09:21 PM	#12
wemple2 Wee Winston Wiggles Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kewanee, Illinois Posts: 9,666	I certainly hope her baby is alright. The articles were an eye opener...I never knew this. YT never fails to amaze me...thank you so much for posting this. I pray that she didn't consume any of the gum...maybe getting it in her hair and paw kept her from actually eating it. Please be alright little girl... __________________ As Ever, Kathy Intruducing Bentley Winston and Spencer: RIP My Sweet Angels

06-07-2008, 09:39 PM	#13
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	Erin, thank you for the update and I'm so glad you were able to get a hold of your vet and get treatment started. Saying prayers that your lil one will be ok. Do you have Nurtrical or Kayro on hand? __________________ ~Tracy~

06-07-2008, 10:08 PM	#14
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Sending prayers to you both! I am so glad you were able to contact your vet. Thank you so much for this information. I didn't know about Xylitol either. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

06-07-2008, 11:01 PM	#15
erino77 Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,503	**~~update~~** ok well my baby is sleeping on my lap right now. and I just want to cry for this happening She HATED the hydrogen peroxide like nothing I ahve ever seen! It was horrible holding her there so trustingly then using the dropper to put it in her mouth and her starting to fight me with swallowing it. I went with the higher end of 2 cc the first and 2nd time cause i had a feeling she wasn't going to swallow it well. figured a better chance of getting the most in with her fighting was to go the higher dose. She coughed and acted like she was dry heaving after the 2nd dose but nothing came up and out, gave 3rd dose of 1 1/2 cc still just some choking like she was gonna throw up gave 4th dose of 1 1/2cc and immediatly , we didn't even have her off the counter yet she started bringing everything up. supper from 10pm, YY treats from right before 11 and what looks to be very little bits and pieces of gum. Vet said if she started tonight with emptying her stomache she will continue to do so for a couple of hours, with that amount of hydrogen peroxide. Rigth now she is resting on my lap, I have a pee pad between me and her to catch any mess. All my poor baby wants to do is go to night night time. Right now is when I usually get ready tto lay down and she is confused with why we're still up. This couldn't have happened at the worse time. Koda and Kammie stay up and snuggle with me till I get off the puter then Koda heads up stairs to sleep with DH and lately I have been crashing on our ohhhh soooo comfy couch due to back/neck problems from our bed. Anyways Kammie snuggles down under the covers till she is right by my belly and curls up like a kitten and goes to sleep till I get up in the mornig. She keeps looking at me like, alright mom, its bedtime,,, she wants to curl up under the blankets and get some sleep but if i lay down i will be out. i need to stay here online all night to stay awake to watch her luckily DH gets up early so he will take over watching her till the vet calls us after breakfast and tells us what to do from there. So So sorry that got long and drawn out. I had taken my Ambien CR right before I saw the post about xylitol being deadly to our babies and its(the ambien) kicking in full effect, I just nead to stay awake!! 3 more hours!! Kammie keeps making me nervous, I have an oscillating fan on and whenever it comes her way she jumps or kinda fliches a little bit. Everytime she does that my heart skips a beat thinking she is going into a seizure. Both of my younger skin boys have had febrile seizures so I know signs and all, plus I worked in a nursing home for 10 years as a state tested nursing assistant so I have a little bit of knowledge, lol! ok ske is starting to stir around check bacj laterff