idk..but to me i think that saving any dog from a shelter is easier said than done. i have saved 3 dogs so far from shelters, and when i had to give them up i did not give them back to the shelter i gave them to loving homes where i knew that they would be very well taken cared of. why? because i wanted them to have a good happy life with a family. when i was first looking for a pet my first thought was a shelter, no if's and's or but's about it, but in my search for a pet through a shelter, i found it to be very difficult, because alot of the dogs weren't really kid friendly, or they were very timid due to being mistreated, and i wasn't qualified to give these dogs the training that they need to overcome this. alot of the shelters wouldn't let me adopt because i had 2 children wich was very heartbreaking for me. eventually i did find my pet but it took me a lot of time and alot of searching(driving everywhere). we had chi-chi(a pekinese) for 1 yr with missy and elli(maltese). missy and elli were trained very well, chi chi on the other hand was a runner and as much as we worked with her she just would not stay in our yard,she wasn't potty trained either and she just would not break the habbit. no matter how much we praised her and tried to teach her. our vet told us that sometimes when you adopt a dog you have no idea about the history of the dog and so fourth. so it makes it very difficult. i have nothing against adopting from shelters as you can see, but i do feel that it's okay if someone chooses to go out and buy a dog wether it be mixed breed or not from a good breeder, and pay what they feel is fair, as opposed to adopting. to ensure that they know exactly what they are getting as far as history goes. jmho with my experience.

I have nothing against mixed breeds, they've been around since the beginning of time. I've owned some myself over the years, although all of mine were adopted from the pound or SPCA or dragged in off the street. I sure as heck wasn't about to part with thousands of dollars to buy one.

In my opinion, humble as it may be, the only reason you have a market to sell to is because of the hype and false advertising with respect to these designer breeds. Otherwise they would be known as what they are, mixed breeds and people would pay what they are worth. But no, breeders like yourself and so many others are desperately trying to convince the general public that somehow you have been able to do what nature could not, isolate only the "good" characteristics of each breed and produce a better dog. Now we all know that's darn near impossible. Truth is you are breeding strictly for profit. I don't necessarily have a problem with someone making an honest dollar either. Key word "honest". There is nothing honest about trying to fool people into believing that somehow your crossed breeds are as good as a purebred. In fact if I read your post correctly you are trying to imply that your breeds are better. Now that I do have a problem with.

I've been to your website, I've read all your hype, all of which is designed specifically to lure the poor uneducated consumer. Fine that's your right but please don't try to BS those of us who know the difference.

Personally I'll jump for joy if what you say about the yorkshire terrier losing popularity is true. Perhaps then breeders like you will leave the breed alone and move on to the next flavour of the month. Perhaps next you'll breed a porkie with pug and get a porkiepug, or a chorkie with a minpin and get a chorkiepin, and you can sell advertise them as true blue mutts. That would at least be somewhat honest advertising instead of the out and out falsehoods you are presently spreading.

Very well said. I Also understand that our Morkies are prices High, but to us you will be getting a dog of a quality you are paying for. We are also honest, one of our puppies had a condition (YORKIE BY THE WAY) (not hereditary) nothign life threatning and only temporary as a puppy, (clear liquid coming out of nostrils) our 3 vets examined the puppy and all came to the conclusion that the puppy's nose was too short for the (parts) inside therefor twisting and causing water to stay. We told the person interested in that puppy (A YORKIE) and they accepted to purchase the puppy for the same price we were asking in the begining. Because of issues we gave them the puppy with a contract that even if we gave the puppy free (they paid for shipping) we accepted all vet costs and fee's for the problem and any other problems the puppy may have. We asked for the full price just to know if they where ready to take care of the puppy we where honest from the begining and that only insured the trust os the buyers. 3 Days after the puppy arrived to his new home he started to clear up and 2 days later nothing left. They never had a problem since. (as our vet told us the problem corrected itself) They have had no problems ever since. Needles to say this was our only problem and it was not hereditary or anything like that it was simply a problem (like normal humans can have problems sometimes) Other than that our puppies are completely healthy. We also educate all of our buyers with feeding instruction (potty training) and reccomend items to purchase for their little guy. Most of our Items are either for Dental Hygene or are 100% Natural treats that they will love and be trained on. We have a strict contract.

There is also the issue of (LIVER SHUNT WITH VETS!).

Many of our clients come to us after they have lost a loved one bought for 300$ at a puppy mill or something similar. (we have talked to many clients and theit Yorkie shopping stories are incredible.

some breeders actually say

"no I am not home on that day so no one can show you the dogs maybe the day after that give me the morning to clean this mess up and come in the afternoon."
THAT'S NOT A GOOD BREEDER!!! Someone who would leave their puppies and dogs alone for a whole day is irresponsible.

Another client also went to another breeder's house and that client called us crying, they had visited a house where the breeder was upstairs some dogs where downstairs (mothers with their puppies) before going downstairs with the client the breeder shoed the puppies upstairs first and when they went downstairs the sump pums had broke a few hours earlier and all dogs including puppies (BOTH ADULT AND PUPPIES) had drowned in 3 feet of water.! I felt so sad that the breeder would let their adults with pups alone for hours we check them every 15 minutes (AT LEAST) I even stay up until 3AM at night to check on the puppies while at 6 someone in the Family is up to start the day. so there is only a 3 hour difference plus we have a sensor for floods in the basement and we also do not have any puppies in the basement. they are kept upstairs where during the day they have access to a large playpen at will. This isn't a HIGH END TOP NOTCH BREEDIGN PROGRAM but it doesn't SUCK either. what we lack in technology we make up in attention and care for our dogs and puppies.
Keep that in mind before judging me!

Puppy Hugs!
Marc-Olivier Parisien
www.RoyalPuppies.com

No Offense
 

But this post was not even about you this was about Esme's Mom and what we as the YT community would pay for a mixed dog then you came onto the thread and hijacked it to use it to promote your business. Then you get PO'd when you get peoples opinions and how they feel about breeders that mix breeds. You cannot get mad for that. We all have opinions, my opinion is you simply posted your "question about our opinions" to promote your website and your breeding facility. Esme's mom is looking for a new dog she stated that straight away and asked what we would pay for it each and every one of us gave our opinions accept you. You placed a post promoting yourself and your mixed breeds. I hope if you plan on continuing the breed of morkies ( they are awfully cute dogs but there is no way I would pay 1200 dollars for them and your site says up to 4000 american dollars if I remember right which I might not be) that you come up with a real name for them and nothing cutsie like they currently have.
I am not trying to be mean I am just pointing out that you can get the mixed dogs from the shelters I also did state you can get purebred dogs from the shelter as well when I pointed out that the dalmations were a fad and then so many of them ended up in the shelters when the parents/owners realized how much work a dalmation requires cause they can be high strung and get bored easily. If you did not want our opinions and are going to be as testy as you have become over them perhaps you should not have hijacked Esme's Moms post for your own financial gain?
Anyway back to Esme's Mom, hun whatever YOU feel is right for YOU. I would rescue from the shelter and therefor pay the shelter costs because I have had a lot of luck and love with shelter dogs. Only you know what you want though and only you know what you can afford to pay and what you are willing to pay when you see the puppy or young dog that is right for you. My only request is that should you choose a breeder you do as much research as you can visit the place (surprise is always best). Look around for anything that seems not right check the mom and dad over make sure they have the tempermant and socialization that is required to make for a happy puppy. Do the same for the puppies and then when you find the one you feel your family cannot be without pay whatever you are comfortable with.
I am always going to adovcate shelters because I go to them so often and see all those unloved or unwanted animals. Hell one time I found an eclectic Parrot there but my husband said absolutely not so I had to leave her :(
Anyway starting to go off ona tangent so I am going to stop writing here..
Oh one more thing for RoyalPuppies:
27 puppies available is a lot of puppies how many dogs are you currently breeding? AND if you wanted to post your site you should have gone to the puppies for sale or wanted section of YT and not this thread as it was really not the right place for it.

I have never said I have anything against people buying a mixed breed from a responsible breeder. Having spent a good part of my life working in SPCA shelters (my father was a Chief Inspector, my mother a Shelter Manager) I'm extremely familiar with the challenges around adopting these rescued dogs out to the right homes. Most people walking in to adopt a dog from a shelter are not aware of the time, effort and patience it may take to properly retrain the pet. Thankfully now most shelters foster out special needs animals before they are put up for adoption.

In many cases people are better off buying a puppy from a responsible breeder instead of adopting from a shelter.

What I have a problem with is this mass production of the flavour of the month puppy with little regard to the special needs that these breeds may have. By that I mean being up front and honest about grooming requirements. You can't mix a maltese and a yorkie together and expect to get a dog with a manageable coat. So people by these morkies, porkies, chorkies, etc not having a blessed clue what they are getting into. On the other hand, if people are going to seek out a purebred they usually have some idea of what they are getting and why they want it. Try doing research on a morkie. Good luck, what you are going to find is a pile of dribble with little or no real data to substantiate their claims. Now if that's what you want to pay thousand of dollars for so be it.

I am not saying the Chorkie is better for everyone but it is better for more people than the Yorkie BECAUSE OF MORE AND DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES. again if 1 Morkie doesn't do for someone then another Morkie with a different personality and look could be perfect. All the Yorkies have basically similar traits. But please I have not meant the they are PERFECT FOR EVERYONE, or BETTER for everyone. Nothing is. this type of breed really is impossible. And I do have your opinions and thanks. I wansn't expecting that many acusations though (no offence you made none).

PS: I will not move on to the next flavor of the month, you see I am serious about Morkies not playing with you or any other person. I asked for an honest opinion and saw that instead I was getting accusations. i simply thought this post would of done great for my question (it was about price AND mixed breeds)

Thank anyways everyone.
Marc-O

OHH and by the way PM me if you want my web site to view them some people think I am making this as advertising (I ALREADY HAVE GOODLE AD WORDS AND OVERTURE) "PAR PER CLICK" I don't need this. if that's what you are implying (Ashantay)

Oh our clients are educated on all needs but don't forget the coats are not wors than the Yorkie or Maltese (it doesnt double or triple) if that's what you are implying. Ive had many years of experience with these puppies and they aren't that bad 2 groomings a week will suffice. Clients are also aware that if they do not want to groom and or show a dog they can simply give a puppy cut. So that's an easy fix ain't it? 2 groomings a week isn't that bad some times only one is needed. I would guess that is for every for almost every breed out there (long haired). Don't forget they know this before buying.

I really don't think the Morkie is the flavor of the Month it is simply a dog which suits more people at one time. (because of a range in personality and looks)

Thanks
Marc-o

NOW PLEASE FORGET THE INITIAL POST I MADE AND CONTINUE with the initial post (i am sorry for changing the subject) I will repost somewhere else.

Marc-o

Those Sheltie pups do not look very happy and they honestly look a bit poorly

My apologies about the misinformation on the costs they only go up to 2000.00 not 4000.00. And she charges 1200.00 for her < coughs violently > teacups.

royal puppies, not to be mean or anything but just to let you know i am not defending what you believe in. i do not beilieve in breeding so many dogs :thumbdown i was simply saying that adopting a dog is easier said than done and i can understand why someone would rather buy a dog from a very good breeder that's all! i know that you are trying to justify what you do..but i am confused. and i think i need to ask you something. would "you" be willing to have a child after child to make a buck? i know were humans but these dogs feel pain too. even if you keep them clean,fed, and happy doesn't meaan that they don't feel pain! i can't imagine giving birth time after time, and being pregnant time after time! and that's with just 1 baby. then after giving you her babies for years SHE'S SOLD! this i just don't understand, it's like your saying "thanks for the pups and the bucks see ya!

I did not imply this I flat out stated it. And as I stated in my post it is MY OPINION. Others may vary we all have our own minds and thoughts.

[QUOTE=jesscruz]royal puppies, not to be mean or anything but just to let you know i am not defending what you believe in. i do not beilieve in breeding so many dogs :thumbdown i was simply saying that adopting a dog is easier said than done and i can understand why someone would rather buy a dog from a very good breeder that's all! i know that you are trying to justify what you do..but i am confused. and i think i need to ask you something. would "you" be willing to have a child after child to make a buck? i know were humans but these dogs feel pain too. even if you keep them clean,fed, and happy doesn't meaan that they don't feel pain! i can't imagine giving birth time after time, and being pregnant time after time! and that's with just 1 baby. then after giving you her babies for years SHE'S SOLD! this i just don't understand, it's like your saying "thanks for the pups and the bucks see ya![/QUOTE]

Aye I read that too and took offense though she said they give them to a good family so not sure if they sell them or give them away at this point.

I know dogs feel pain by the way and it's not only food and water they get allot of attention. You should also know that after they are weaned there is no attachment to the puppies. (we do not force weane either) once the mother is ready she starts leaving the pen she starts by only a few minutes and everyday comes less and less after a small while they don't want to have anythign to do with the pups anymore. This comes naturally. Also we breed the females up to 5 years old usually 5 years old is MAXIMUM and they get a brake (skipped heat) after each litter or 2 litters depending on size. And they feel some pain but would you say I regret having a child because it hurt? they know what's coming and most are used to it. After they are retiered they are either sold or given away go a VERY LOVING family where they will be spoiled rotten for the rest of their lives. And in our house it's not the same as having only 1 or 2 yorkies, they have social statuses, one is the leader and others follow some chalenge (that's when we come in) so they actually have a life of their own as well here all competing against each other. And they are not spoiled rotten here as you probably know but they won't be left alone for very long either. They can play for at least 2 hours a day with a human and 24/7 with another dog.

Thanks please get back to the other post I will make a new thread
Marc-o

[QUOTE=Ashantay] but why get rid of them at all! all these poor babies know is her, and like i said after giving her baby after baby,they just get rid of her? why? so they can replace her with a "new" girl that can give them more litters? i just don't get it.

yes you may not regret having a child even with the pain, but THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE! these dogs don't have a choice! you are deciding for them! would you want someone telling you when and how many times you should have a child? i don't think so!