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05-10-2008, 09:38 PM | #16 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: down in front
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| For Diana Many years ago now My Mom and I pet sat Tony. One day I call the owner, Lee and told her I had groomed (volunteering spca) a cute lil Yorkie/Silkie that might make a good friend for Tony. Lee adopted Tina ( she named her) For 7 days Tony would have nothing to do with her and horded all his toys under the table. On the 8th day he shared and they were great pals until Tony died several years later. There was a musical called Tony & Tinas' wedding and Lee cut out the ad from the Sunday paper. framed it and hung it in the guest powder room. It takes time. I think Tina was a Silky. Or a combo. Lee was a married lady. Lee and Hank. Great people. Hank was in building homes and when Tonys' time was short he made a casket for Tony and he was buried in the back yard. I treasure the photos I have of them. |
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05-11-2008, 07:15 AM | #17 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I just read this whole thread - so it doesn't look like you yet know if she's pregnant, right? In any case, my heart goes out to you - adjustments can be tough. I would just say that it helps to try and remember that she's probably scared, nervous, tired, insecure - and she's in an entirely new environment. She's also picking up on your feelings as well (whatever they may be at any given time). Being older than little wild man Franklin (one of my fave YT names, btw!), it is natural for her to need to "pull back" a little - they will likely establish a relationship where it will be up to HER when and if they play (and this will loosen up over time) - and that's normal. Also, outside of your relationships with them (and within the pack) they are, right now, establishing their ground rules and heirarchy between each other - and if you interfere with it, it will end up being very confusing for them in the long run. The best thing you can do is remember that YOU are alpha - and then watch them to see eventually who is next in line, and respect what they've worked out. And they'll be SO much more at ease if you allow this "order" to work. They also have such different energy levels right now, so it's tough. I don't think that she doesn't "like" stinkin' little Franklin - she's just trying to let him know a few things. Just love them both up, have play sessions with them together - and allow her to tell Franklin "no", if she needs to. And, just love her to death and bring her into the fold as much as possible so that any anxieties dispel as well. Wylie had to adjust to Marcel too - and he was SO insecure and needy when we brought Marcel (puppy) into the house - and now, total buds. But, Wylie is the boss - he's older, more uptight, and has a need to be the boss. A good book I'd recommed is The Loved Dog by Tamar Gellar - GREAT. Sorry for writing so much! Geesh!
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05-11-2008, 08:31 AM | #18 | |
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No, we're still not sure if she's pregnant.. I think I'll just wait and see what the vet says tomorrow. I will keep you all updated, though!
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05-11-2008, 08:33 AM | #19 |
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| when first got Karlee i only had bentley and he HATED Karlee and us. She just wanted to play and he was like oh no.. TAKE HER BACK!!!! but after a week or two he FINALLY came around. To this day Bentley still hates puppies. i think i scared him for life! but all of our dogs get along now.. Even Lily our rescue does fine with everyone. It just takes time for them to adjust!
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05-11-2008, 01:49 PM | #20 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | Hang in there, I know how stressful it can be. I have brough in 4 puppies in the last 2 1/2 years with an older (now 11 years old) grumpy pom. Each time it took a little to get then all adjusted to each other. With 4 they just form their own heirarchy and I let them work it out as long as no one was getting hurt. It took each of them different amounts of time to adjust from 2 days to 2 weeks. I know it will work out and you will be so happy you took her in.
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05-11-2008, 02:27 PM | #21 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: scotland
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| Hi there, we had a similar problem when I first got Alfie , my mum's dog was the sweetest yorkie ever and was great with everyone but hated Alfie on 1st sight would growl and snarl at him we were taken aback as she was normally verys weet. It took a little while but eventually she came round and she loved him to bits..then we got Lottie and she loved her instantly I think it just took her a while with Alfie as she was used to being the only one and the puppy behaviour came as a quite a shock to her system......wishing you well with your little ones iam sure she will come round and make the best of friends in the longrun.
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05-11-2008, 05:55 PM | #22 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MICHIGAN
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| 1/2 day? you need to give them several days to get to be friends. It will come in time, but you need to be patient, and keep them apart a little to no territorial behavior gets in the way of their budding friendship. Sue & Cricket |
05-11-2008, 06:04 PM | #23 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| Yes I know 1/2 a day is too soon to be worried. But like I said, I was really stressed out and just wanted to vent.
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05-11-2008, 06:14 PM | #24 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| Today is better! Not by much but better nonetheless. They spend all day fighting for attention. Any time ANYBODY stops to pet one of them, the other runs up and pushes the other one out of the way. They also go around marking places the other has gone. Franklin is acting like a spoiled brat (mainly because he is) and barking at her and being mean to her. She just wants to sleep. She will still growl a little at him if he bugs her too much but for the most part, the roles have been reversed. He now runs around and barks at her any time she comes near anybody or near his things (currently, she is sleeping on the couch and Franklin is barking his head off). As a result, she has spent most of the day hiding in the kitchen, sleeping on her blankets. It's incredible how calm she is. My mom LOVES her! I'm a little confused though because Franklin keeps trying to hump her - he's neutered so this is obviously a sign of dominance. But yesterday, SHE was the dominant one. She would have snapped at him yesterday but is just letting him hump her now. She's definitely adjusting better and pretty much ignores Franklin. I just hope HE adjusts! We still don't know if she's pregnant although just about everybody that's seen her thinks she is. I'll let you all know after the vet appointment tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed! I'd really like for Franklin to have a playmate. I really think that after a week or two, they'll learn to love each other.
__________________ Diana , Mommy to Franklin, Maggie, Oliver, and Millie - RIP Piper |
05-11-2008, 06:17 PM | #25 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2008 Location: North Carolina
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| pregnant? I'm sorry you are having a hard time - puppies are a pain. Trust me I haven't slept an entire night since I have had mine. Signs of pregnancy - big belly, swollen nipples, extreme possessiveness and a grumpy, emotional attitude - oh yes, a lack of patience for other's puppies. Sorry, but she shows all of the signs. Hopefully not. If they are truly driving you crazy, separate them for a while. He just wants to be a puppy. If she is pregnant, she needs her own crate, a place she feels safe where he will not intrude! When the pups get close she might accidently hurt him, he is not hers and she really doesn't know him. This will be a very difficult time for you if she is pregnant. NOT impossible. Keeping them separated a lot during the day is your best bet. If she seems to be getting irritated, take the baby to a separate area. Probably not what you banked on when you got her. Gently squeeze her nipples every two days or so, milk shows imminent birth, keep him away once you see this. It may turn out to be one of the sweetest things to happen to you. |
05-11-2008, 09:47 PM | #26 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts
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| If shes not pregnant, maybe shes is heat?
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05-12-2008, 09:12 AM | #27 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| Just wanted to share... Franklin is sitting on my lap chewing on a bully stick and Maggie is laying on the couch right next to him and they are completely ignoring each other! No growling, no barking.. I can pet Maggie and Franklin doesn't run up trying to get my attention! In other news, Maggie's vet appointment is today.. I will post later tonight with an update. However - my bf's mom volunteered to take care of Maggie while she's pregnant (if she is) until the puppies are born! Isn't that sweet of her? And if something doesn't eventually work out between Franklin and Maggie, both my mom and Andrew's mom said they would love to have her. YAY I'm excited.
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05-12-2008, 09:20 AM | #28 |
Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada
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| Diana that is an INCREDIBLE update!!!!! so glad they are tolerating eachother. I'm sure Maggie was pissed yesterdya and Franklin was scared so she took over and now he realizes she isnt going anywhere so he has to make up for yesterday and show her who is in charge. She must be one tired and stressed out girl. But good boy Franklin for coming around And what great news that people are willing to help you if she is pregnant. If she is i'm sure she'd rather be out of the loud stressful environemnt that Mr. Franklin is creating can't wait for the update tonight. ! IF she has puppies... we want PICTURES!!!! it will be interesting to see if they look pure bred or not! |
05-12-2008, 09:22 AM | #29 |
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05-12-2008, 09:26 AM | #30 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island
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| Im glad to hear that things are turning around for you!!!!
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