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KimberlySRN · 05-05-2008, 10:48 PM

I was just curious, I know that Teacup is a word that is discouraged to be used, but is the term Tiny any better? I have been looking on the net and it is almost like the new term being used is a tiny, which usually implies a very small yorkie.
what do you think?

MyFairLacy · 05-05-2008, 10:55 PM

I'm okay with tiny being used as an adjective, as long as it's not being used to market a puppy for more money. I think it's much better than the word teacup because so many people are scammed into thinking that there is a teacup yorkie. If a breeder is reputable, tiny being used isn't an issue. But if I'm on a website that has a lot of red flags and tiny is being used, then it may be being used as a marketing scheme

LoveMyJake · 05-05-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I'm okay with tiny being used as an adjective, as long as it's not being used to market a puppy for more money. I think it's much better than the word teacup because so many people are scammed into thinking that there is a teacup yorkie. If a breeder is reputable, tiny being used isn't an issue. But if I'm on a website that has a lot of red flags and tiny is being used, then it may be being used as a marketing scheme

I agree with this.

kezza · 05-06-2008, 03:06 AM

When i enquired about Pixie her breeder warned me that she was going to be a 'Tiny'..she wasn't trying to sell her to me for more money just because she was going to be a tiny yorkie, all her puppies are sold for the same prices regardless of size. She was selling Pixie because she knew she would be too small to show or breed from this is a reputable breeder.

Nikki+2 · 05-06-2008, 04:07 AM

I'm fine with tiny too. The tinies take a little extra care and not everyone is up for that so buyers should be made aware. Im guessing from your post that it's likely that the term tiny is being overused just like teacup has been and that it might sometimes be a marketing tool rather than an accurate description.

txshopper73 · 05-06-2008, 04:19 AM

To me, it's just a word...though a word that I DO NOT use. No one can guarantee size or color. I have bought/bred the smallest one in the past and it has turned out to be larger than expected and vice versa.

GurleyGirl · 05-06-2008, 04:31 AM

The only way to "almost" guarantee you will get a tiny yorkie is to purchase one that is older in age (full grown).... or REALLY look at their feet (paws) when you are purchasing them.

I don't have a problem with either word... tiny or teacup... just words... meaning small.... I prefer the smaller yorkies.

Mybabyboymax · 05-06-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kezza

When i enquired about Pixie her breeder warned me that she was going to be a 'Tiny'..she wasn't trying to sell her to me for more money just because she was going to be a tiny yorkie, all her puppies are sold for the same prices regardless of size. She was selling Pixie because she knew she would be too small to show or breed from this is a reputable breeder.

I dont have a problem with them being called "tinies" or teacups...its a word used to describe the size a dog will be, to me it isnt a big deal. I think its great that she didnt charge you more because she was going to stay smaller, almost everyone I have seen charges more due to their size

luv_my_yorkies · 05-06-2008, 07:15 AM

Mine did the same with me when we went to see Lola. I also feel like the one of the reasons she was comfortable with us having such a tiny girl is that she was Tino's breeder as well and she could see how well he is taken care of.

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Originally Posted by kezza

When i enquired about Pixie her breeder warned me that she was going to be a 'Tiny'..she wasn't trying to sell her to me for more money just because she was going to be a tiny yorkie, all her puppies are sold for the same prices regardless of size. She was selling Pixie because she knew she would be too small to show or breed from this is a reputable breeder.

magicgenie · 05-06-2008, 07:38 AM

The tiny ones should be sold for more money as far as I'm concerned!!! I breed for conformation showing and rarely have a problem with size, except for this last litter that produced a couple of oversized and one extremely undersized puppy. The oversized ones will be sold as pets for less than my usual price, and the undersized will be sold for more than my normal price. She was a huge amount of work to keep alive her first 4 weeks, and she'll be staying with me longer to get sufficient size and maturity so that I'm confident of her good health before she leaves. I'm very grateful for the premium price some clients are willing to pay for the novelty of this tiny Yorkie.

Erin · 05-06-2008, 08:48 AM

Tiny is actually more accurate if they truly are a tiny Yorkie. Regular people don't really know what teacup means - they just hear it thrown out as a marketing term. Sammy is 6 lbs and she and I were walking in a nearby downtown on Sunday and of course people were stopping left and right to pet her. One person asked if she was a teacup and another walked up to me and said "Isn't she too big to be a teacup" (as if that's some kind of breed?) while others couldn't believe how small she was! I just take the time to say "No, she is a Yorkie" and explain that while Yorkies come in all sizes they are "supposed" to be 7 pounds and under and Sammy is a perfect sized Yorkie at 6 pounds. People say how tiny she is at 6 pounds and then talk about how they want a "teacup" just like her. They truly have no idea...

Also a bunch of people would not believe me that she was 6 pounds. They all thought she was 3 or 4 pounds. That's why I emphasize to anyone who wants a Yorkie to look for one that will be about 5-6 pounds. There is no need to insist on a smaller one. If that's what you find, great, but people think they *must* have a 3 pound Yorkie and 6 pounds IMO is still a tiny dog!

chachi · 05-06-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by magicgenie

The tiny ones should be sold for more money as far as I'm concerned!!! I breed for conformation showing and rarely have a problem with size, except for this last litter that produced a couple of oversized and one extremely undersized puppy. The oversized ones will be sold as pets for less than my usual price, and the undersized will be sold for more than my normal price. She was a huge amount of work to keep alive her first 4 weeks, and she'll be staying with me longer to get sufficient size and maturity so that I'm confident of her good health before she leaves. I'm very grateful for the premium price some clients are willing to pay for the novelty of this tiny Yorkie.

I dont agree with you at all. I can see a small amount being charged for extra care but not a larger amount. Also I am convinced breeders cant tell for certain when one is going to be a tiny. For example I have one that at 8 weeks was 12 ozs but she grew to 6 lbs in adulthood

Belamia · 05-06-2008, 08:53 AM

i think either words are fine along with an explanation... i was asked a few times by people if "tea cup" is a breed... like: "he is a yorkie but he is not a teacup, right?" at the end the question was about a breed withing the yorkie... similar to spaniels... cocker spaniels, english spaniels.... i think either word or any other word used to mislead people into something that does not exist is all wrong... but it has to be a word to describe a smaller one... anyways ....

Odie in London · 05-06-2008, 09:01 AM

I am not a breeder but.. when I take Odie to the dog park he IS the smallest dog there and I have been asked on several occasions if he is a teacup and I always reply .. NO he is just really tiny for his breed.
He is 5 months and is still only 1 lb 8 ozs.. I don't think that he will be a big boy once he has grown up.
But no matter what he is still my baby and I love him to pieces.

KimberlySRN · 05-06-2008, 09:08 AM

The context I have seen it used in lately has been on breeders sites to sell them. I guess it is better then using Teacup. It really depends on how it is being used, to define a small pup or if they are just using the word to get more people to buy the little ones for more money.

05-05-2008, 10:48 PM	#1
KimberlySRN Twins=double the fun! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,981	Tiny / Teacup? I was just curious, I know that Teacup is a word that is discouraged to be used, but is the term Tiny any better? I have been looking on the net and it is almost like the new term being used is a tiny, which usually implies a very small yorkie. what do you think? __________________ Kim Anakin Bella

05-05-2008, 10:55 PM	#2
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	I'm okay with tiny being used as an adjective, as long as it's not being used to market a puppy for more money. I think it's much better than the word teacup because so many people are scammed into thinking that there is a teacup yorkie. If a breeder is reputable, tiny being used isn't an issue. But if I'm on a website that has a lot of red flags and tiny is being used, then it may be being used as a marketing scheme __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

05-06-2008, 03:06 AM	#4
kezza Lovin my Pixie Pooh Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 3,510	When i enquired about Pixie her breeder warned me that she was going to be a 'Tiny'..she wasn't trying to sell her to me for more money just because she was going to be a tiny yorkie, all her puppies are sold for the same prices regardless of size. She was selling Pixie because she knew she would be too small to show or breed from this is a reputable breeder. __________________ This Little Girl Has Stolen My Heart! Every Dog Should Have a Tail To Tell.. "I'm a Yorkiestalker"!

05-06-2008, 04:07 AM	#5
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	I'm fine with tiny too. The tinies take a little extra care and not everyone is up for that so buyers should be made aware. Im guessing from your post that it's likely that the term tiny is being overused just like teacup has been and that it might sometimes be a marketing tool rather than an accurate description. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

05-06-2008, 04:19 AM	#6
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	To me, it's just a word...though a word that I DO NOT use. No one can guarantee size or color. I have bought/bred the smallest one in the past and it has turned out to be larger than expected and vice versa. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

05-06-2008, 04:31 AM	#7
GurleyGirl YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott City, Missouri Posts: 1,879	The only way to "almost" guarantee you will get a tiny yorkie is to purchase one that is older in age (full grown).... or REALLY look at their feet (paws) when you are purchasing them. I don't have a problem with either word... tiny or teacup... just words... meaning small.... I prefer the smaller yorkies. __________________ Joanne Gurley's Yorkies

05-06-2008, 07:38 AM	#10
magicgenie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: England Posts: 819	The tiny ones should be sold for more money as far as I'm concerned!!! I breed for conformation showing and rarely have a problem with size, except for this last litter that produced a couple of oversized and one extremely undersized puppy. The oversized ones will be sold as pets for less than my usual price, and the undersized will be sold for more than my normal price. She was a huge amount of work to keep alive her first 4 weeks, and she'll be staying with me longer to get sufficient size and maturity so that I'm confident of her good health before she leaves. I'm very grateful for the premium price some clients are willing to pay for the novelty of this tiny Yorkie.

05-06-2008, 08:48 AM	#11
Erin Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 3,306	Tiny is actually more accurate if they truly are a tiny Yorkie. Regular people don't really know what teacup means - they just hear it thrown out as a marketing term. Sammy is 6 lbs and she and I were walking in a nearby downtown on Sunday and of course people were stopping left and right to pet her. One person asked if she was a teacup and another walked up to me and said "Isn't she too big to be a teacup" (as if that's some kind of breed?) while others couldn't believe how small she was! I just take the time to say "No, she is a Yorkie" and explain that while Yorkies come in all sizes they are "supposed" to be 7 pounds and under and Sammy is a perfect sized Yorkie at 6 pounds. People say how tiny she is at 6 pounds and then talk about how they want a "teacup" just like her. They truly have no idea... Also a bunch of people would not believe me that she was 6 pounds. They all thought she was 3 or 4 pounds. That's why I emphasize to anyone who wants a Yorkie to look for one that will be about 5-6 pounds. There is no need to insist on a smaller one. If that's what you find, great, but people think they must have a 3 pound Yorkie and 6 pounds IMO is still a tiny dog! __________________ Erin, Sammy & Loki Sewing patterns and tutorials @ www.dogundermydesk.com Last edited by Erin; 05-06-2008 at 08:50 AM.

05-06-2008, 08:53 AM	#13
Belamia Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salem Posts: 191	i think either words are fine along with an explanation... i was asked a few times by people if "tea cup" is a breed... like: "he is a yorkie but he is not a teacup, right?" at the end the question was about a breed withing the yorkie... similar to spaniels... cocker spaniels, english spaniels.... i think either word or any other word used to mislead people into something that does not exist is all wrong... but it has to be a word to describe a smaller one... anyways .... __________________ "You can say any fool thing to a dog, and the dog will give you this look that says, `My God, you're RIGHT! I NEVER would've thought of that!'" - Dave Barry

05-06-2008, 09:01 AM	#14
Odie in London YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 465	I am not a breeder but.. when I take Odie to the dog park he IS the smallest dog there and I have been asked on several occasions if he is a teacup and I always reply .. NO he is just really tiny for his breed. He is 5 months and is still only 1 lb 8 ozs.. I don't think that he will be a big boy once he has grown up. But no matter what he is still my baby and I love him to pieces. __________________ Nicole and Odie

05-06-2008, 09:08 AM	#15
KimberlySRN Twins=double the fun! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,981	The context I have seen it used in lately has been on breeders sites to sell them. I guess it is better then using Teacup. It really depends on how it is being used, to define a small pup or if they are just using the word to get more people to buy the little ones for more money. __________________ Kim Anakin Bella