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lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:22 PM
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whats wrong with the bya and the acr registries??


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Originally Posted by oopsmyhalofello (Post 1869045)
Yes, you are correct. The registry that you would look for with Biewers at this time if IBC German registered

nikkik187 03-23-2008 06:23 PM
[QUOTE=lucysyoyopoos;1869946]
a puppy that costs 1000 or 2000 deserves a fenced in area and a doggy door and a companion canine..
those who cannot afford an expensive dog should go the pound and get one .
those who can afford the price should be willing to put out morer money to provide them with a dog friendly home..
QUOTE]

Shouldnt all dogs get loving homes, regardless of price and where they came from?

lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:25 PM
mixing
 
i am not going to waste the wonderful biewer bloodline.. i need yorki genes
and choose to use biewer yorki genes
breeder striving for excellence here:animal36

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Originally Posted by Kelz (Post 1869982)
it's a shame that people are already going to ruin the biewer breed. I know so many breeders striving for excellence in their lines.. why someone would want to screw that up is beyond me.. Just my opinion.

hha 03-23-2008 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrissy0277 (Post 1870003)
Its so obvious you have done your research.
Biewer and yorkie are NOT THE SAME BREED.
So before you come onto a yorkie board research your thoughts before you blurt them out to a bunch of strangers and look like a total moron.
The first biewer came from 2 YORKIES, so, in my book, they are a yorkie..Biewer was the last name of the people that had the first biewer..But, I still think what she's doing is wrong!!! The biewers have not been in the states for very long, and these women over here have worked long and hard to try and get the biewers to perfection, and then someone like you comes along and tries ruining it..??

jrsygal37 03-23-2008 06:26 PM
First of all I could be wrong but I do not believe Chrissy from NJ is a breeder. Secondly, OHIO do I have to say anymore. Sorry for those in Ohio that are reputable good breeders but unfortuantely OHIO is one of the biggest puppymill states and it looks as though this OP is on her way to being part of that big circle. How old are the dogs you are planning to breed? You make mention of your dogs being under a year old.

hha 03-23-2008 06:29 PM
the history of the biewer
http://pruettspuppyparadise.net/BiewerHistory.html

lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:30 PM
mixing breeds
 
i am so misunderstood.. my fault im sure.. i apologize for upsetting anyone.
im only trying to improve my hybrids.. yorkipoos and morkipoos
i will be breeding purebreed dogs also.
my 5 year plan includes biewers to biewers
yorkies to yorkies
and better yorkipoos and morkipoos with the biewer line
yorkies are not in need of improving. they are perfect
but yorkipoos are a different story

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Originally Posted by PCMom (Post 1869073)
That is the problem...everyone wants them UNTIL they aren't those cute little puppies anymore. Everyone wants them UNTIL the vet bills start coming in. If they really want these mixed breeds, direct them to the nearest Shelter because they are full to bursting with these "designer dogs". I am not a breeder...do not have the heart to face the worry and danger to the dog I love. I am hoping you seriously aren't doing this...that you really DID post this to stir up emotions and get a rise out of us "crazy yorkie lovers"...because otherwise what you are planning is wrong! This is about money, pure and simple, not about "bettering the breed". If it is true you should be ashamed. I am not saying anything against mixed breeds. Every dog on the planet deserves love and caring and I adore them all. But to intentionally breed a dog that is going to end up in a shelter is irresponsible and cruel. This is all my opinion of course. I wish any dogs you breed a long, healthy life filled with love.

Suzy 03-23-2008 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lucysyoyopoos (Post 1870036)
whats wrong with the bya and the acr registries??
BYA is for Biewers-I don't think that compares on the same level with ACR/AKC because BYA is breed specific, while AKC and ACR register many breeds.

ACR is not as reputable or well-known as AKC. AKC sets the breed standards in this country for many dog breeds, and holds dogs and the breeders to standards and regulations that must be met in order to be registered with AKC. Personally, I wouldn't buy a yorkie that wasn't AKC-just my preference, as you'll find with many other yorkie owners.

hha 03-23-2008 06:31 PM
You know, people are NOT going to pay big bucks for a mixed breed dog..! So, if you think you're going to make the "big bucks", you better think again..your bitch could end up losing her pups or her own life delivering..this is one reason I don't breed my dogs, because I love them and I'm not taking that chance..

daisy mae06 03-23-2008 06:31 PM
A Little Information May help OP
 
http://biewerbci.org/

Please do research and Learn as much as you can :)

jrsygal37 03-23-2008 06:34 PM
designer dogs...
 
http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Desig...puppymills.htm

http://network.bestfriends.org/great...ews/13414.html

http://network.bestfriends.org/great...ews/13414.html

http://www.cal.net/~pamgreen/designer_dogs_by_wood.html

lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:35 PM
mixing
 
biewers are rare. no one is messing up the breed by using them for a hybrid.
biewer to biewer is best.. but these dogs cost a lot of money. a female to breed is like 3-5000$$$ im just using my male stud to improve my hybrids..
:aimeeyork :animal-pa
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1870048)
The first biewer came from 2 YORKIES, so, in my book, they are a yorkie..Biewer was the last name of the people that had the first biewer..But, I still think what she's doing is wrong!!! The biewers have not been in the states for very long, and these women over here have worked long and hard to try and get the biewers to perfection, and then someone like you comes along and tries ruining it..??

lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:42 PM
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you must admit to the fact that hybrids are here to stay.
i dont claim to be as experienced as you, but i do know the value of my dogs.
not monetary value.. be assured my dogs only go to good homes
i think most breeders are in it for the money.. i might make some money,
but i am totally not worried about having undesirable puppis..the yorki bloodline keeps them wonderful, no matter what color they are..



QUOTE=jrsygal37;1870017] Let me entertain your plan for a minute. You a breeder want to breed designer dogs. I'm told there is a math eqastion to get the right look out of the two. Going with this assumption, as a new breeder what makes you experienced enough to do this and do it correctly? And, what happens if you cannot get that look that those want? What will happen to those puppies? I really think that this whole conversation is going no where and I'm not even going to post any further about it - I hope administration closes this thread. IT'S RIDICULOUS. A NEW BREEDER LOOKING TO BREED DESIGNER DOGS. MONEY MONEY MONEY.[/QUOTE]

lucysyoyopoos 03-23-2008 06:46 PM
mixing breeds
 
:aimeeyork sonds like irresponsible people buying dogs
when they are puppies, you can tell what they will look like
why do you breed? money honey?

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Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 1869991)
You quoted me and you made yourself out to be the next Mother Theresa because you want to sell your dog in pairs. With all do respect "you have got to be smoking something." A reputable breeder is breeding for the better of the breed. Again, I'll ask what are you breeding for? Let me answer. Because in your own words "people want the designer dog and you have a waiting list." It's all about money and how much you can make while the market for these dogs is hot.

You mention unwanted dogs but do you realize that with a mix breed there is NO ASSURANCE as to what this pup will look like as an adult. At least with a pure bred you have a pretty fair chance that the pup you bought will look like you think it will based on what an adult Yorkie, or Golden or whatever breed you are buying. Then you have your mixed breed who was walking down the street with their owner and you have someone see it and ask what breed it is and that person is told "Oh it's a mix of Maltese and Yorkie - they call them Morkies" Now that person goes home and decides "hey that's what I want." They go and they buy that pup that they think will look JUST like the one they fell in love with. That pup grows up to look totally different then the one they saw and like it or not SOME people WILL turn that dog in because it was not what they expected AND THAT MAKES PEOPLE LIKE YOU IRRIESPONSIBLE BREEDERS.

jrsygal37 03-23-2008 06:47 PM
Really? I have a 17 pound Yorkie Poo (or) Yorkie Westie no one wanted. As a matter of fact she was sold and returned back to the breeder because she wasn't what they wanted. She was then beaten (probably because the breeder was pissed off over having her returned) She was in such bad condition emotionally that it took six months before she'd allow my husband to touch her. She's now almost 4 years old and it took this long for her to allow strangers to approach and even now she's very timid. If you believe that with the Yorkie blood line EVERYONE will want one you are sadly mistaken. Noel is just one example. Example of GREED.


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