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03-22-2008, 03:11 PM | #1 |
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| Need Advice and to VENT! Sorry this is probably going to be pretty long but you guys are always great and I need advice. You guys have already been very helpful with advice on Chewys allergies and I went through with seeing a dermatologist. It cost me a weeks pay and i really got no comfort out of it but maybe it will all work out. Basically as a recap... She has been shedding and then got what looked like chicken pox which turned into scabs and she has been non stop chewing on herself. So my vet recomended an emergency clinic not too far that has a variety of specialists. When I described Chewys symptoms to the Doctor she took out a pamphlet that literally described the same thing i just told her in the same ordeer!! She has a staph infection of the skin.... so i said how did she get it... so she takes out another pamphlet that says that the # 1 cause of this infection is persistent allergies!!!! So i freaked. I should have looked into the itching months ago and could have avoided this but i thought it was just the usual yorkie itching thing. Anyway now she is on a week of anibiotics to kill the infection. So on to the allergies....She said that according to the American Board or Allergists or whatever it is there is no reliable FOOD allergy test for animals. The test comes back with certain allergies but even when those are removed from the dogs diet they are still itchy. She only does allergy testing for 50 environmental allergies (dust, mold.etc). So i got that done.... even though i hve a feeling shes allergic to something in her new food. Its hard to keep switching food all the time because a lot of the minor ingrediatents overlap in each food. So her solution is a hyperallergenic food with a protein she ha never eaten before. The protein we went with was Rabbit (EW ) i cant imagine feeding rabbit because i dont eat bunnies The next problem is that my monkey will not touch dog food(esp. not a new one) unless there is a human food on top... recently i have been giving her about a tbs of chicken soup on her dry food and she eats all the dog food. NOW I WILL HAVE TO MAKE BUGS BUNNY SOUP!!!! The NEXT problem is that they dont really sell rabbit in brooklyn. Waldbaums, pathmark....those kind of stores dont have rabbit so i will have to find a specialty butcher... tough to do during tax season when i am in tax and am at work ALLLLL DAYYYYY!!!!!! I am off on sundays when most places are closed. also, when i dont understand and maybe one of you can help me with.... I got a little upset when she told me the Brand of the food..... HILLS!!!!!! She was on hills when i got her and then found you guys and learned to look at the ingredients!! !It was all byproducts nd chemicals. The doctor claims she has never heard anything bad about hills and recomends it to every1. When i acually got out to reception and the nurse wrote me a prescription for the food.... SHe wrote Royal Canine.... but i thought RC is available at pet stores??? Do you need a prescription?/ Sorry for such a long speach but i am confused, upset and irritated because it will take 3 weeks for th test results to come back...I am out too many hundreds of dollars for not feeling like there is a good enough resolution. Also, shuld I really be switching the food if i dont know whether she is allergic to someting environmental yet??? She just went through a switch and seems to relly like Natures Variety. Help |
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03-22-2008, 03:22 PM | #2 |
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| I think this is the RC food they prescribed.... she explained that it has a hydrolyzed protein which means it is so small that it is not enough to cause an allergy... http://www.royalcanin.us/products/pr...ail.aspx?ID=69 but will she be getting enough protein....?/ This makes me so nervous... |
03-22-2008, 03:30 PM | #3 |
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| Have you looked online for dog food that contains rabbit? That might help with your time managemrnt. |
03-22-2008, 03:35 PM | #4 |
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| I dont know if just feeding a food that has rabbit is good enough... the ones she was talking about are specifically for allergic dogs... i notice that even when a food has a main protien there are other protiens inside. So it can still have ingredients in it that will cause allergies. But yes im looking through a bunch of sites right now and will try to leave work early one day this week so i can go speak to my regular vet about this. |
03-22-2008, 03:41 PM | #5 |
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| IM SOo CONFUSED!!!!!!!! Here are the ingredients in the RC allergy food... Ingredients: Rice, soy protein isolate hydrolysate, chicken fat, natural flavors, beet pulp, vegetable oil, sodium silico aluminate, dicalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, fish oil, fructo-olligosaccharides, potassium chloride, monosodium phosphate, L-tyrosine, choline chloride, taurine, borage oil, vitamins [DL-alpha-tocopherol (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], minerals [zinc amino acid chelate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese amino acid chelate, copper amino acid chelate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], marigold extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid. It has chicken at as one of the first ingredients.... doc said chicken and turkey are the most common allergens... has she evn looked at the ingredient list????????????????????? All the ingredients suck!!! It is a 2 star food!I dont know what to do??? Should I home cook??/ But how if i dont know what shes allergic to. I hate that i just gave her dinner again and i had to give her something that she could possibly be allergic to!!!! Sorry that i am writing so much but i really have no one else that i can discuss this with and wont get to my vet until tues prob. |
03-22-2008, 03:44 PM | #6 |
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| http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_f...t=1512&cat=all The review for this food is terrible!!! They are right though...there is no meat in it at alllll and dogs are carnivours. How can she live off of rice and chemicals?? |
03-22-2008, 03:49 PM | #7 |
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| The Hills z/d is a 1 star food and has no meat in it either JUST chemicals And i cant find the Hills rabbit and potato but the other choices are 2 star foods |
03-22-2008, 03:53 PM | #8 |
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| Nature's Variety make a rabbit dry & wet food. They also have a dry food recommended for allergies. Bailey has allergies to corn so Royal Canin is not good. I keep her on grain free which help and my vet recently said I should not feed her chicken anymore because chicken eat corn..... I hope this helps & you find something that works for her.
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03-22-2008, 03:57 PM | #9 |
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| I quite enjoy eating rabbit and it is very easy to get around here. As long as you tell yourself that its really no different than cooking chicken, you should be able to prepare it. The rabbits come skinned and gutted and headless so it really doesn't look like a buuny. I did a search and found a company in Vermont that will ship to New York. Maybe you could try a month's worth and see if it makes a difference. You could cook the lot and freeze it in meal-size portions. http://www.vermontqualityrabbits.com/shipping.html I'm so sorry about poor Chewy's itchniess. Has an allergy medication been prescribed to help control the itching and let the medication heal the staph infection? There must be an oatmeal bath or lotion safe for use on dogs. Hang in there!
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03-22-2008, 03:58 PM | #10 |
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| http://www.royalcanin.us/products/pr...ail.aspx?ID=78 I think this might be the food the vet recomends. I had to do a search on there site once before so i knew where to go |
03-22-2008, 04:11 PM | #11 |
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| Good luck honey. I know my son was not impressed when he too his dog to an allergist.
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03-22-2008, 04:16 PM | #12 |
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| http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/d...xclusion/62673 How does this food llook? Has anyone ever heard of it? Its the only one i can find thar only has one protien and it really only has less than 10 ingredients which all look healthy... I would love to feed the NV rabbit food... she seems to really like the lamb but it has other things in it that she may be allergic to. I dont know maybe ill just wait and speak to the vet?? |
03-22-2008, 04:19 PM | #13 |
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| What about Natural Balance? I feed Bailey that sometimes just for a change. They have grain free and what they call Limited Ingredient Diets for allergies.
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03-22-2008, 04:23 PM | #14 |
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| Thanks Ill look right now ive spent about an hour and a half looking at dog food... ugh |
03-22-2008, 04:35 PM | #15 |
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| It is a time consuming process & then they have to like it. My vet used to carry Royal Canin in her office & prescribe it. Bailey was fed RC by her breeder so I fed her that also. Then she started to get sick a lot. My vet tested her for a few common allergies. Corn is a biggie for her, but after that my vet switched to another brand of food to carry in her office. She said too many other animals were also having reactions.
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