7 months old, still not housetrained, still not sleeping thru night

[hha]

One more question, are you home with him all day or do you work? If you work, I would suggest an xpen, where you could put pee pads down, this makes it great at night time too, as then they don't start whining early in the morning..I understand if you have to rehome, but, please try something else first..I truely believe you really don't want to have to do that..

[BLEU BOY BARBER]

Bleu has water all day too in his house it is a rabbit feeder

[KimluvsLexie]

When we were having such issues with Tucker we finally tried letting him sleep in the bed and guess what!?! No potty in the middle of the night and for our sanity no nasty crate and dirty dog to clean up in the morning! Maybe you could try that, then if he does have to go in the middle of the night you will be able to just scoop him up and rush him outside or do like we do and place him on the pee pad. I LOVE pee pads! My husband has to take our golden retriever outside to pee whether its freezing or blazing hot and when my yorkies have to pee they either walk to the pad on their own, or I place them there Good luck!

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by BLEU BOY BARBER

Here is our schedule to help~

Hubby gets up at 6:00 am and takes Bleu out to potty and pooh.
I feed him at 7:30 Hand feed and water... I take him out right before I leave for work at 8:00 am the he is in crate till lunch time .... If we are home he stays out with belly band on fulltime (NO ACCIDENTS)

Mark or I or both of us are at home for lunch and he drinks water and gets kibble right before we leave him again he goes potty and pooh.

We are home daily by 500 He eats dinner around 6-7 and goes potty pooh 730 and then we PLAY AND TRAIN (TRICKS) EVERY NIGHT between 8-9 We take him out right before we go to bed last night it was 11 pm and he sleeps all night long till we wake up...

I will add when we are home he is out.. His house (crate) door is open constantly and you will FIND HIM in there as that is his comfort zone....

When I first got Bleu I used this same schedule and always when he would go outside I associated the same words...

OUTSIDE (he was excited) then we would go to the door same door same time same everything cause that is how a dog associates his lifestyle (REPETITION)

He would be outside and I would say (GO POTTY) and when he did I never gave him a treat I would run and swoop him up and hug and kiss him and say GOOD POTTY.....

I only give treats on commands during training. He earns them...

My husband and I do the exact t same thing so it does not confuse him.. You should hear and see my hubby (HE IS TRAINED TOO )

He is now potty trained fully in the house and crate and will be 8 months on the 23rd. He has been potty trained though since he was 5 months old...

PERSISTENCE CONSISTENCE PATIENCE AND REPETITION is the majic words...

Hugs
Vicki

Please excuse me if I repeat myself. I am home during the day and have Logan on a strict schedule of eating, drinking, playing, and pottying. He goes outside first thing in the morning to potty. He comes inside and has the opportunity to eat and drink, but he rarely does. He usually doesn't want to eat until lunchtime. After he eats and drinks, however, we go outside to potty again. When I'm home I do not let him roam around the house because he still poops in the house. As I mentioned, I do keep him in the kitchen with me when I'm in there fixing a meal or cleaning. Even after going potty outside, he will sometimes poop in the kitchen when I turn my back. Then he starts to eat the poop as if he is trying to hide it, knowing he should not have done that.

He never voluntarily goes into his crate. Our last dog did. He loved it. Logan doesn't complain about being in his crate (unless he needs to potty), but he doesn't show a preference for being in there when he doesn't have to be.

We go out the same door every time we got outside to potty. I always tell him we are "going outside to potty."

I don't know what a belly band is. Is it a dog diaper?

[pnkcandle9]

i totally know how you feel..... i'm in an apartment, and she hates her crate and would NOT stop barking when she was in it at nights. i didn't want to disturb or make my neighbors mad at me so i ended up letting her sleep with me. the only time she's in her crate is when im at work or at classes. basically, it was leave her in her crate barking and wake up to a pee and poo in her crate. at five months she still pees and poos in her crate when i'm gone. i think she does that to show she really hates it! she really is doing a good job with piddle pads in the bathroom.... i hope to try the pee bells when it gets nicer. i'm on 5 months and hope to get him better trained about going to the bathroom.... seriously, how come my yorkie still hasnt learned to go in her crate? why are they giving us so much trouble!!

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by BLEU BOY BARBER

This just dawned on me too~

It could be the environment he came from.. If it was a petstore byb or puppy mill they pooh and pee whenever however and he may not know any better..

If you got him from a breeder that socialized him well then that would not be the case I do not think...

I got him from a reputable breeder when he was 10 weeks old. The breeder, a vet, has a lot of dogs, mostly Yorkies, as pets. Logan was born during the summer, so the weather was nice enough that the family kept him and his siblings outdoors a lot so he got used to going potty on the grass early on. He has been around a lot of people and other dogs.

[puppy_Love08]

When we took Logan on a trip with us a couple of months ago, we used a playpen and pee pads at night since it would have been difficult to take him potty in the middle of the night at the hotel (which I dont' think even allowed pets). That worked well. But we were afraid that if we used pee pads at night and then tried to get him to go outside during the day, Logan would get confused. But I'm thinking about setting up the playpen in our bedroom and putting pee pads down at night so I can at least get some sleep. Then I will continue training him to potty outside during the day. When the weather is bad (we've had a lot of rain storms lately) or too cold, it's difficult to exercise Logan outside.

What do you think about the pee pads in a playpen at night idea?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

When we took Logan on a trip with us a couple of months ago, we used a playpen and pee pads at night since it would have been difficult to take him potty in the middle of the night at the hotel (which I dont' think even allowed pets). That worked well. But we were afraid that if we used pee pads at night and then tried to get him to go outside during the day, Logan would get confused. But I'm thinking about setting up the playpen in our bedroom and putting pee pads down at night so I can at least get some sleep. Then I will continue training him to potty outside during the day. When the weather is bad (we've had a lot of rain storms lately) or too cold, it's difficult to exercise Logan outside.

What do you think about the pee pads in a playpen at night idea?

Yes, yes, yes, like I said in an earlier post, I don't believe this confuses them. The older Joey gets the less he uses pee pad, he prefers going outside. (Sometimes the most obvious solutions aren't apparent because we are so exhausted.)

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08

I don't know what a belly band is. Is it a dog diaper?

A bellyband is a piece of cloth with Velcro that slips over male dogs mid section. When used with a sanitary pad, they help prevent male dogs marking. Some people with unneutered dogs use them when the dogs are in the house. They should not be used as a diaper. They don't really teach anything, they just keep the house cleaner.

[jeanietoo]

My Feather is almost 11 months old and still gets up one or two times a night. The tiny girl I had before her never slept all night in 12 years. Welcome to the club

[hha]

a lot of people train them to use pee pads and go outside. Mine are strictly pee pad trained, but, when it's nice out, I do take them out to the back yard and let them run at night...they will still pee and ocasionally poop out there..I think the pads would be worth trying at night, at least you will get some sleep

[puppy_Love08]

Originally Posted by jeanietoo

My Feather is almost 11 months old and still gets up one or two times a night. The tiny girl I had before her never slept all night in 12 years. Welcome to the club

12 years? Oh, my. I've got the playpen set up next to our bed, so tonight Logan will not only be next to me but also have a place to potty in the middle of the night. Keeping my fingers crossed it works!

[Nancy1999]

Hope you get a good nights rest!