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02-28-2008, 11:09 PM | #16 |
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| Yes, cottony coat is against standard. However, I have a male with a cottony coat, and I prefer it for a pet yorkie. So much easier to care for. I just twist chunks and clip and he looks like a puppy still and it doesnt get matted like the silky coat does.
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02-29-2008, 11:01 AM | #17 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | One of the ways you tell a cotton coat from a silky is that the cotton mats, and the silky does not. If yours isn't matting you probably have a silky.
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02-29-2008, 11:26 AM | #18 |
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| OK, I have to voice my opinion here (eeeks) Great posts, especially on the medical side of breeding. I do think AKC serves a wonderful purpose of preserving the breed, as it's very nice to purchase an AKC dog and know what you're supposed to get. On the other side, as we keep all these non AKC purebreds from being born, a new situation has been generated. The cost of obtaining a non purebred dog for a home has gone thru the roof. It's almost impossible to find a mut puppy without paying an arm and a leg. I am a firm believer that when you have children, you should be very careful in choosing your dog. I have never wanted to bring an adult dog into our home with kids, as you never know what their temperment will be with kids (my kids are very loving with pets). I think in the attempt to "save" dogs (and cats for that matter), rescue leagues have defeated their purpose. They have certainly pushed families towards purchasing dogs with papers...hence development of all the "other" registration organizations now. It's not a terrible thing to breed your Yorkie who doesn't look exactly like a Yorkie (these posts were a bit hars on ya). The pups should not be sold as AKC breeders. I think there are fantatic puppies coming from homes who breed their dogs once or twice. Many times over would not be responsible for any dog owner. Why is it OK for breeders to do so? Don't they face the same problems listed? I've had fabulous "mut" pets, and I've got two fabulous AKC dogs now. The real problem is the process of adopting a dog from a rescue league. OK, take it easy on me ladies |
02-29-2008, 11:37 AM | #19 |
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| As I read my post, I'm thinking it may be a regional thing too - I'm in Massachusetts. All dogs cost $ around here. I know in TX it's much easier to find a mix breed, etc... |
02-29-2008, 11:42 AM | #20 |
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| Hi Not trying to disagree, as I notice that I agree with most of your posts However, my Joe has never marked in the house ever and he has bred. In fact, the silly boy doesn't even lift his leg when he pees outside, nor does he go around marking anything out there. He's quite the exception to a lot though, he's a cool dude. However, my old lab, who never bred, marked everything, including me one day. I was sitting on the floor in the family room, when all of a sudden my back was warm and wet. I turned around and screamed. He was marking ME! Guess he wanted the other dogs to know I was his.
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02-29-2008, 11:51 AM | #21 | |
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I have my own personal feelings on breeding and standards. I know that a lot of people here might say that irresponsible breeding (non standard or mixed breeding) is the reason for shelters being so full and all that, but actually that would be irresponsible pet owners. I dont think the quality of the dogs, the breed of the dog whether purebred or not, makes one iota of difference in regards to the way someone cares for it. If someone is going to neglect or abandon or get bored with an animal, I dont think it has anything to do with how well bred the dog is. The only thing that has to do with the breeding is that the person that had the litter has to take the time to place the pups in responsible homes. I understand that if you want to purely breed only picture perfect, according to "akc standard" yorkies, and thats your right Dont blame the fact that there are wayyyyyy too many animals neglected out there on people that might breed their dog that falls short of the standard or has a mixed breed litter. Unless someone is mass producing pups just to make money and throwing them out to anyone that hands over money, I dont think you have any right to say that they are contributing to overcrowded shelters if they are acting responsibly about placing their babies.
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02-29-2008, 02:40 PM | #22 |
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| MindieRose I love that. That is exactly what I wanted to say. I really don't see how responsible breeding of any breed or mix of breeds contributes any more that breeding the breed standard. It is people that let their dogs go unfixed and roam the neighborhood... jumping into other people's back yards and breeding w/ their unfixed dogs and so on that is irresponsible. Puppy mills are breeding pure breed AKC and they are irresponsible. She didn't aske can I breed my yorkie w/ a LP or w/ shunts... she asked about the coat. Now, unless she has the female.... I don't know many female owners who would want their female bred to less than the standard... but if she has her own female... I don't think she is contributing to all the problems you list. That being said. She did ask. If someone ask "what would be the problem w/ that" then they have to be ready for the responses they get. If someone states they are going to do it... then I don't think people should but in and attack. But in this case the girl did ask.... and was told many opinions and she has to decide from there. About cottony coat... the person that says cottony or wooly don't tangle is wrong. Silky rarely tangles except around the haunches.... but the other two it is a constant battle unless they are cut very short. |
02-29-2008, 05:05 PM | #23 |
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| Mine have silky coats, and they never get matted..if mine gets one little knot, I comb it right out, they have the easiest hair ever to take care of..I have literally gone a month without combing either of mine, and a comb goes right through them.. |
02-29-2008, 05:08 PM | #24 | |
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02-29-2008, 05:12 PM | #25 |
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| sorry, should have read the other 2 posts first before I corrected about the silky hair... And you last 3 are right as far as dogs at pounds, you find beautiful yorkies that have been abused and dropped off at animal shelters because of the irresponsible owners.. |
02-29-2008, 07:09 PM | #26 |
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| ANYONE that brings puppies into the world is contributing to the pet population and is therefor contributing to the millions being euthanized. That is all breeders - puppymills, BYBs, hobby breeder, irresponsible pet owners & show breeders. However, like I said before...obviously we want to continue having purebred dogs so some must be produced. If someone is breeding, they need to have a good reason for doing so - such as breeding to preserve the breed. Only those breeding quality, healthy dogs should be breeding. Everyone else is only harming the breed and dogs in general...those people shouldn't be breeding. If no one bred to the standard, we wouldn't have purebred dogs...none of them would look the same so they wouldn't really be a breed anymore. A breed is consistent in looks... dogs being bred that don't meet the standard are not. If someone doesn't care whether or not their dogs meets the standard, ADOPT! There are plenty of dogs out there...of all ages (puppies - seniors), of all breeds & mixes, of all hair types, of all personalities, etc.
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02-29-2008, 10:17 PM | #27 |
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