I am appalled.

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by For My Coby

First, it was rude. Yes, not everyone has the same social skills, but when going into a field of work that would benefit from some, I hope people at least try. Funny that the same conversation routinely revolves around responses to threads here on YT.

Matthew, you are so right! My first and only dealing with a Rescue was positive, enlightening, and educational. They went far and above - having lots of contact and creating a 3-legged journey out of me, the foster mom, and volunteers. I naively thought that's how all rescues were. Since joining YT, I've learned that sadly there are so many of these "loosely" titled rescue operations.

Not trying to hijac the thread, but how does someone become a "rescue". Is that an official title that is appointed, are there inspections, paperwork, etc.? Or can I just take in a couple strays and suddenly call myself a rescue?

I wonder the same thing. If you look on her website here http://www.oksaveadog.org/contact.html, it says she runs it out of her own home.

[jrsygal37]

I'm not defending the way it was written But Rescues get bombarded with a lot of emails/applications that they HAVE ALREADY specified will not be entertained. I did go over to Petfinder and take a look and it did specifically say quiet home etc. Let me explain a little that may help you understand their decision better. A Puppymill dog is much different then another 8 yr. old dog would be. They have lived THEIR ENTIRE LIFE in a cage producing puppies. MANY do not even have any idea what grass is and are PETRIFIED of it. They have to be re-programed / Taught things that come naturally to any other dog that has not lived this life. The SLIGHTEST thing MANY times will scare them. And, sadly A LOT will NEVER over come this. I could go on and on but I think you understand my point. The rescue dealing with so many emails coming in and many really ridiculous emails sometimes just as someone put on here already "It's to the point." Hope that may soften the hurt feelings. Elaine






B.S. email (not saying yours was) but I think at some point they get TIRED of answering questions they've already POSTED on Petfinder.

[autumn star]

You know I am very much bothered by a lot of these rescue orgs. I have reached out on a couple of occasions interested in rescuing and adding a third to my furry family and have been told "Thanks but No Thanks" because I have two children (8 & 5).
One rescue even went as far as to tell me that the breeder that sold me my yorkies should be ashamed of themselves for even selling to me since I have children. And that obviously the $ was more important to the breeder then her dogs were!
So I understand completely!!!!

[brittahnee]

while i think his approachment could have been nice,
i see where they are coming from.

a yorkie is a highly sought after pet.
many people wait for those to be in the pound for a chance at a free yorkie.
the shelter just does the best job they can to weed out the bad owners.

i'm not saying that you are a bad owner,
i'm sure your a great mommy to your darling,
but i can imagine they get countless emails regarding that certain pup every day.

[Emmsmom]

I have issues with A lot of the rescues. Not all but quite a few seem to only be out for the money. There are several of us if not all who could provide a very nice home. However, because we don't have a fenced in back yard or we have have children or we have other dogs that they don't approve of then we aren't even considered. It is all really sad. I can certainly understand trying to recoup TRUE medical cost. I don't know. I just don't agree with a lot that they do.

[kezza]

correct me if i'm wrong, but..I do sometimes feel that people who work in/run these rescue centres give off the impression that no-one is good enough to care for the animals they have..I understand they have to be careful and strict in whom they choose for the sake of the animal..and they must get so frustrated with ignorant pet owners...BUT..with their attitudes is it any wonder there are still so many animals needing new homes?

Just to add...I have an 8 year old staffy who is more than happy having a pup running around!

[YorkieAunt]

Sounds like the States aren't that different from here up North.
I checked into the CYTR (Canadian Yorkshire Terrier Rescue) and ALL of the dogs listed were to go to a home with no kids, no other pets,had to have a fenced back yard, no smoking household, and a household with no allergies. With that many restrictions, it is no wonder that the dogs don't get adopted and stay at the foster homes for years. It also explains why the rescue organizations are over crowded. It is not necessarily from too many rescued dogs, it is because they don't seem to really want to rehome the animals unless it is the perfect home. Even foster homes for skin kids aren't this rigid.
I tuly think that everycase should be looked at on a case to case basis. I do know how the shelters work and how much the volunteers put in because I volunteer at our local Humane Society.

[hha]

I have found with older dogs(my shih tzu will be 10 next month), she still has a lot of life left in her, and will play when she wants to play(still loves playing ball with the other 3), that remark did sound very rude to me..I'm sorry that someone had to make it sound like they did...I don't think they know what that dog needs, a puppy would probably be one of the best things for her, and she would let the pup know when she didn't want to be bothered.

[MyPeanutAbbyGra]

A puppy to BUG her?

That certainly could have been worded better.

[jrsygal37]

I'll make no bones about it I am a BIG supporter of rescue but I do not agree with the NO CHILDREN NO EXCEPTION RULE. I feel that every home should be judged independently for one another. Rescues generally will say No children under the age of say 12. Well, I have seen many 5 yr. olds behave a lot better with animals then some 12 or older kids.

In so far as quiet homes for puppymill rescues. I have to say that in MOST cases the rescue is right. As posted above these dogs are different then any other dog you've had as a pet and require a much different home then may be tolerable with a dog that did not live his life as they. AND, MOST people are not able to be a family for a puppymill rescue. This is the truth believe me. Yes, if they are rescued early on they will come out of it sometimes fully sometimes not fully but certainly enough to make them a good family pet but sadly very few older puppymill rescues get over what they have gone through. Noel came to us under a year old. She had been beaten and she is now almost 4 yrs. old. Keep in mind how young she was when we got her. 1. It took six months before she'd allow my husband to pet her. AND, it took up till now almost 4 yrs. later before she will slowly approach anyone outside our immediate home and that is with diligently working with her. NOW imagine an older dog who has lived it's ENTIRE life in a cage producing puppies, who has no concept of human contact, no concept of grass or noises other then other dogs barking and fighting them whatever food is thrown their way. This is why rescues will state QUIET HOME - No Children or no other dogs etc. The no other dog policy is hit or miss - some will not state that as a requirement - some will. They will usually gage that on how the dog was with other dogs while in foster. Remember some have had to fight for their lives while in puppymills so no other dogs are not playmates to them. Anyway, I just wanted to post a few different views. AND, yes just like people and homes there are good and bad rescues too. You have to investigate and not just jump because they call themselves a rescue. Elaine

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I'll make no bones about it I am a BIG supporter of rescue but I do not agree with the NO CHILDREN NO EXCEPTION RULE. I feel that every home should be judged independently for one another. Rescues generally will say No children under the age of say 12. Well, I have seen many 5 yr. olds behave a lot better with animals then some 12 or older kids.

In so far as quiet homes for puppymill rescues. I have to say that in MOST cases the rescue is right. As posted above these dogs are different then any other dog you've had as a pet and require a much different home then may be tolerable with a dog that did not live his life as they. AND, MOST people are not able to be a family for a puppymill rescue. This is the truth believe me. Yes, if they are rescued early on they will come out of it sometimes fully sometimes not fully but certainly enough to make them a good family pet but sadly very few older puppymill rescues get over what they have gone through. Noel came to us under a year old. She had been beaten and she is now almost 4 yrs. old. Keep in mind how young she was when we got her. 1. It took six months before she'd allow my husband to pet her. AND, it took up till now almost 4 yrs. later before she will slowly approach anyone outside our immediate home and that is with diligently working with her. NOW imagine an older dog who has lived it's ENTIRE life in a cage producing puppies, who has no concept of human contact, no concept of grass or noises other then other dogs barking and fighting them whatever food is thrown their way. This is why rescues will state QUIET HOME - No Children or no other dogs etc. The no other dog policy is hit or miss - some will not state that as a requirement - some will. They will usually gage that on how the dog was with other dogs while in foster. Remember some have had to fight for their lives while in puppymills so no other dogs are not playmates to them. Anyway, I just wanted to post a few different views. AND, yes just like people and homes there are good and bad rescues too. You have to investigate and not just jump because they call themselves a rescue. Elaine

I agree that there are certain situations where the dog has very special needs. This is EXACTLY WHY I e-mailed her and told her I had another dog. The website never said she needed that kind of care. All it said was she needed a quiet home with lots of love and TLC. I can provide that -- to me, my home is quiet. However, I wanted to make sure she would be okay with another puppy. Obviously, she would not be and that's fine. I wouldn't be able to handle a dog like that anyway. But how was I supposed to know that? I am fortunate enough to have found YT and have now educated myself on puppymill dogs. What if someone else had e-mailed her who DIDN'T know what puppymill dogs were? Would she treat them that way? I certainly hope not.

Maybe I am too sensitive, but I don't think I should have to change my ways. What ever happened to RESPECT? I don't care if you get a thousand ridiculous e-mails a day. That's not my, or anybody else's fault.

I don't know about anybody else but I was raised to be polite and to treat others as I would like to be treated and UNTIL THE DAY I DIE I will use those thoughts as a guide for my actions.

People need to get a reality check and realize they can't just treat people however they want just because they're "annoyed" or want to be straightforward. You be can straightforward in a kind way. Morals and etiquette desperately need to be re-instilled in a vast majority of people.

And the sad part is, I sound like I'm so old-fashioned. I'm only 20. :/

[Sookie]

Originally Posted by Matthew

Having just tried to find a rescue that would take in an abandoned dog in my neighborhood, I have to say that I was more than a little disappointed in the responses, which included: "We don't take intact males", "We are full", "I don't have enough money to take him in", and "You get him to the vet, neuter him, get all shots and a checkup, and I MIGHT consider it...if you bring him to me."
MAN!
What I have found is that, SEEMINGLY, the rescues I contacted were individuals taking in lots of pets, or a loose network of people taking in animals. And this is not a bad thing at all. God bless 'em for doing it. But at the same time, doing this does not elevate one to a higher plane of existence. I have definitely sensed a "martyr complex" in some of my dealings with these folks. A few were kind, refusing and wishing me well. But the others... almost an attitude of "I am overburdened, overworked, under appreciated, and a SAINT. I cannot deal with one more thing" (placement request). So I did my own "rescue" and found Bam-Bam a loving home, which seems to be working out great for him.
Yet you do have to jump through hoops to not just surrender a pet to them, but to adopt one as well. It is as if they know "what's best" for the animal, and have lost sight of objectivity. For me, my animals are part of my family, but not substitutes for people.
Maybe I am loosing my objectivity. But I worked briefly with a "trap and spay/neuter" organization in New Orleans for feral cats. I liked the work, but found the attitudes of some of the volunteers to be just obnoxious. Treating the general populace like they were ignorant jerks- rather than using them as resources to locate colonies.
Again, IMHO- persons do this for a reason, and should know what they are getting into. No one forced them to begin a rescue.
My final beef is that the "professional appearance" of a website for a rescue is NOT indicative of the level of "professionalism" when contact is made. Websites should be updated frequently, and a large notice should be displayed with the basic "ground rules", and especially if they are full, and temporarily not taking in any more animals. They should note this clearly, and shift the focus to adoptions.
I just talked with my neighbor, who was denied a dog because she did not have a fenced in yard. She has two other dogs she treats like gold...but since we rent here, a fence is a costly proposition to just leave behind when one moves. So yes, some of the "rules" are a bit much at times. Others are there to weed out the bad apples.
If I had gone to a rescue to try and adopt Stanford, I would have most likely been turned down. I don't have fenced yard. I have a larger dog. I have two cats.
I guess the point is: If rescues are overworked and overwhelmed, then focus on being ADAPTABLE and looking at all aspects of a potential family's life. If not, then do not complain about the situation... and go get more volunteers to spread the work out.
Again, I am sure not all rescues are like the ones in this thread, or the ones I have experienced. So no offense meant if the brush stroke seems a bit wide.
Thanks all for letting me rant.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Mere_de_Jambo]

Boy...I keep seeing all these not so nice things about rescues. What's happen to professionalism and courtesy?!

[LuvmyYorkies2]

That was rude. If she went as far as to explain what she meant by the statement ("she needs a quiet adult home"), why didn't she just say that???? I'm sure she knows that sounds a lot better than "bugged by a puppy". I would hate to think what she's saying to the puppies or these "special needs" dogs since she doesn't take the time to chose her words carefully.. Whether they were going to let you have the dog or not, her responses could have been a little better...the rejection is hard enough alone..they could at least thank you for applying and caring to adopt...geesh

[Mizzrosa]

wow talk about being unprofessional omg i would report this person to some1 higher up over there