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| Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| I work with bills like these all day long and after reading it, I don't think its going to pass. Its a sh*tty bill that does nothing for animals. its just dealing with the ins and outs of making money off of licenses. Remind me again while I am still in this country?
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| | #32 |
| Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| forgot to mention that I HIGHLY DOUBT the bill will ever make it out of committee.
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| Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City
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| Im so confused reading this bill. I dont understanded at all. It doesnt seem to benefit the animals at all. I hope it doesn't pass. |
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| YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: paris crossing,indiana
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| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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| Sorry had the Bill with editing marks somewhere here on the Internet, but haven't founfd it yet. I will keep looking. I did come across the following information. http://www.dfow.org/paws.htm -I thought was very interesting in their document of the above link:PAWS Definition for Dealer Here is a link to the CFA opinion and information on the Bill. They are against it the way it is written now. See Link below. http://www.cfa.org/exhibitors/alert-...ttertoAKC.html This link is interesting too: http://www.hosanna1.com/aaaweblog/op...gislation.html Senator's site: http://santorum.senate.gov/public/in...Record_id=1247 T. |
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| | #37 |
| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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| Here is another link that list a lot of Pet/Animal organizations against this Bill (PAWS) Senate Bill 1139. http://www.essfta.org/PAWS/PAWS_position.htm T. |
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| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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| You Might Need a USDA License If : from web site:http://www.ncraoa.com/PDF/YouMightNeedUSDALicenseIf.pdf This is the document they read off at my all breed dog club meeting and showed it affected all of us. 1) If you sell that stud fee puppy that just didn't turn out the way you wanted-- guess what you are a third party/ broker and you might need a USDA license. 2) You already bred 2 of your bitches and there are 17 puppies on the ground and registered. That darn bitch you co-own just had 12 puppies ---- you might need a USDA license. 3) If you are a handler and you come back from Crufts with dogs purchased for your clients YOU might need a USDA license. 4) If you are a handler and your clients bring their litters to you to sell YOU might need a USDA license 5) If you are that breeder who had their handler sell your puppies, your handler must turn you in and YOU might need a USDA license 6) If you have great lines and want to sell your dogs to another show/breeder (even part interest) YOU might need a USDA license 7) If you don't alter your puppies before they leave and one of your pet puppies is bred you just sold breeding stock and YOU might need a USDA license 8) If “oops” you sell an Irish Wolfhound and his new owner actually uses the breed to hunt You just sold a hunting dog and YOU might need a USDA license 9) If you breed just one litter in a year, but decide to sell one or two of your retired show dogs, YOU might need a USDA license. 10) If your breeding partner, who co-owns all your queen cats with you, breeds and raises more than three litters in one year in her home and you do the same in your home, YOU BOTH might need USDA licenses. 11) If your popular stud dog breeds five bitches belonging to other breeders, on your premises, and you, in turn, use him to breed just two of your bitches, YOU might need a USDA license. 12) If you breed no more than one or two litters in a year, but do some private rescue, fostering, and placement on the side, for which you charge new owners a modest fee just to help with expenses, YOU might need a USDA license. 13) If you co-own seven or eight bitches, all close in age, none living with you, but all are bred in one year, YOU might need a USDA license, even if you breed infrequently in your own home. 14) If you are a very small hobby breeder & you buy a puppy from a breeder in CANADA (only a few miles from your home in the US) you might need a USDA license! 15) If you rescue within the breed you show, and somehow end up with more unaltered animals than the law allows, you might need a USDA license. 16) If you think “it is not my problem, we should regulate Puppy Mills”. . . YOU might need a USDA license because DORIS DAY ANIMAL LEAGUE vs VENEMAN ANN will be in Court again and this time DDAL will WIN! OPPOSE PAWS! Stop It In Committee!!!! Call (202) 224-2035 T. |
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| | #39 |
| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
Posts: 3,787
| Dear Yorkie Power, I finally found a copy of the Bill with the scratched out marks. Here is its link: http://www.pet-law.com/paws/ppa3.html Let us know what it really means to us - good or is it bad? T. |
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| BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York
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| Thanks. I printed it out and I'll try to get to reading it this weekend. |
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| | #41 |
| BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York
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| To be honest, this does not look like a strong bill at all. It so weak, I wonder if it will at be effective AT ALL! Someone said that it is primarily a liscensing act, and I tend to agree. Ultimatly, it will come down to how the regulations are drafted and what input AKC actually makes. Here's some points I noticed. The actual language sites to "selling" or "Raising on the premises." We'll have to see how the word "raise" is ultimalty defined but I think there's a good argument here that when you are rescuing dogs, you are doing neither "raising" nor "selling" Next - there's th 25 dogs or cat; OR does not whelp more than 6 litters of dog or cats AND sells only dogs or cats raised on premises at retail to people who are buying for thier own enjoyment AND NOT FOR RESALE - its clear that what they are getting at is if you selling to dog brokers you are subject to regulation. But if you are a small hobby breeder or BACKYARD breeder, and have only a few bitches from which to breed, you can keep them in you house and breed them. |
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