Look at this website.
 

Just google Velvet Touch Yorkies. Have any of you had any experience with her look at her dams, they are very small. Im not interested in her yorkies they are way to small for me. Im just wondering what the rest of you guys think. If Im not wrong I counted over 50 yorkie breeders male and female together. Am I looking at that wrong?

I have been going to her web site for 6 yrs now. Never heard anything bad about her. I know her pups are very cute.
We were going to check her out the next time we're looking into adding to the family. :)

No! No!
 

I don't know anything about them but those dams look way too small to be breeding.:eek:

she has to be SICK IN THE HEAD for breeding those tiny mommies. wholly crap, that is by far one of the worst breeders i have ever seen.
breeding 2 1/2 lb mommies, which most of them were.

also, no mention (i didn't see) them being registered. Many of the sire's and dam's do not look full bred Yorkshire Terriers to me.

Very very sad :(

I think her puppies are very cute, but after looking at pictures of her kennel, I would not feel comfortable buying any puppy from her.

If you notice her sign, she used to breed 5 different breeds. That's a big warning flag when looking for a breeder. Plus, she seems to have a lot of dogs and they are living in a kennel environment, not raised in a home. I would worry about socialization and how that many could be properly cared for.

I also think that the females are much too small to be breeding. This is JMO, but it just looks like too much of a "mass breeding operation" for me to want to purchase from there.

IMO, this is a viscous and unsubstantiated attack and as such, runs counter to the very rules of YorkieTalk.

First - Her front page states AKC registration. http://teacuppoodles.com/
Second - Your opinion that they do not look to be full bred Yorkshire Terrier runs counter to our opinion, and, in fact, except for their size, they appear to look very much like the Yorkies we see winning at AKC dog shows.

I think some of you MAY be jumping to conclusions. As yorkiecrazy has stated, she's been watching that kennel for the past 6 years. She's also kept her ear to the ground listening for anything derogatory about them and, so far, has heard nothing. In addition, we've noticed the kennel is more often without puppies then with.

I KNOW I'll get attacked with this next statement, but, I'm pretty sure I can handle it.:D
I think some of you may be a little quick on the attack without having enough facts. Sure, be cautious! But, I think we need to be more careful of making misleading and unsubstantiated statements. This is how rumors get started and you know how rumors can hurt the innocent.
Ladies.... please be careful.
:2popkorn:

I don't think I attacked at all, personally. I just wouldn't want to buy a puppy from a larger scale breeding facility. I'd prefer a smaller breeder that raises their litters in the home.

I've been down the road of buying from a kennel and I just would not be comfortable going back to that.

:cry: I am personally very sad for those poor dogs...I could never personally breed such small dogs...nor keep so many! How would I ever spend enough time loving on each and every one of them...this really breaks my heart!!! :cry:

she breeds 2lb mommies

ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!

I think she has one Yorkie that's within the weight standard. She breeds "teacups" purposely. I would not use her for this reason...but that's MHO.

There are no rumors, (A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
Unverified information received from another; hearsay. ) being stated, just peoples opinions from the facts of her website.
You are correct, I missed the akc reg

Now, I don't know what kind of dog shows you go to but at all the akc sponsered events I attend, these dogs wouldn't even make it into the ring. first due to size and 2nd, they do not measure up to the standard.
I went back to take a 2nd look......nope, can't see them being in the ring.
No Yorkshire Terrier should ever be bred less than 5lbs....maybe 4lbs if you are very very experienced.
Most of her yorkies are at most 3lbs....very few 4lbs.
I cannot speak for the poodles which i haven't a clue but I can however speak about the Yorkshire Terriers.
Her yorkies are, of course, cute (like all dogs) but as a breeder, no ethical breeder would ever venture into this.

Really cute dogs. I did a search and it seems a few Yorkie Talkers have purchased from her (some more than once) and it seems they were very happy with her.

I did not start this thread to cause anyone to be upset. I am just learning.I dont have a yorkie yet but Im trying to do all my research before I do. I want everyones opinion good or bad on anything I post thats how you learn is to listen.:thumbup: :D

Geez she sure has enough yorkies....thats a little too many IMO...kennel raised puppies dont do a thing for me...nope..

Dawn

no one is upset, they are just stating their opinions.

If you breed tinies purposely, you get many health problems for most of the puppies. I would have to say (jmo) that 95% of these births have to be from c-sections.

If you breed toward the standard and have a little tiny puppy out of that litter, the chances of you having in health issues are greatly reduced.

This is the difference from being a poor breeder and a wonderful breeder. Caring and making sure the puppies you produce are 1st and foremost, healthy.

Even though I know very little I agree with you. I want one no less than 5lbs.

Me too! That is still very small. I have a six lber and she is very tiny. Small enough for me

First of all, she uses the term teacup yorkies
1) I would never buy from anyone that uses that term..
2) I would never buy from a breeder that has more than just yorkies..remember I got screwed by a woman who sold me a supposed pomeranian years ago..They can get pg by more than one dog.
3) I would never buy from anyone that breeds a bitch under 4 1/2 - 5 lbs. as to me, I think they're after one thing, and that's the big bucks.
4)one thing to remember for anyone who loves dogs, all puppies are cute! Some of them to me, also didn't look full blooded, but, that's jmo..

lol...I used to want a "tiny"....Boy was I foolish....I have 2 boys...Bennie and Barney....

Barney is 5.5 lbs...He is perfect in size...IMO....Bennie is 4 lbs...I would give anything if he were at least 5 lbs....And 4 lbs is not tiny but when you are holding 4 lbs....Sheesh....I worry about him all the time....Making sure he eats....lol...I panic when I can not get him to eat....

But I am very fortunate...My boys were raised in a home enviroment and I truly believe that is one of the biggest plusses to their personalities..They were/are soooo socialized...

IMO....A home breeder is the way to go...Some may prefer a kennel pup...That is their choice....



Joyce

Her pups are NO DOUBT very, very cute indeed, but breeding 2 and 1/2 lb mommies? That says enough to me. I would not buy from this person.

I also forgot to add, she sure is breeding ALOT of dogs..

I agree that breeding such little females is not good:( although her dogs look very beautiful, healthy and well cared for.;)

Ditto!! I'm afraid to breed my 4 pounder!! But that's just me!:o

Although I think that purposely breeding tiny, tiny Yorkies is not a great idea nor should it be done, I do commend them on such a clean kennel which looks to be very professionally run. Its definately a business and doesnt look like the dogs have alot of people/socialization time which is sad for a Yorkie or any breed. Hopefully this is how clean her kennel looks 100% of the time. But these are only pictures on a web-site.


As to being show quality(from a previous post): NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

And don't forget folks, anyone can clean up a dog and take a pretty picture with a basket and some flowers.
That doesn't guarantee what they look like on a daily basis. And you can not tell the health of a dog by it's picture alone.

:goodpost: I totally agree!! :)

There is no way I would consider buying from that breeder and can't believe anyone (especially a YT member) would. There is no such thing as a "teacup" or "tiny toy" yorkie OR poodle :thumbdown She has a LOT of dogs...business, business, business :thumbdown She breeds females that are WAY too small for breeding :thumbdown She does have some cute dogs that look well taken care of in the pictures, but I highly doubt they look like that on a daily basis....not unless they have a full time grooming staff working for them :rolleyes:

for me....... the issue here is kennel verses home raised puppies.

To me... the pictures of the kennel remind me of the puppies at the petstore at the mall... so many dogs, not enough attention. Now obviously these kennels are much larger than those in a petstore, but seeing the number of puppies, I'm still weary that they would get enough attention.

To tell you the truth, before getting my yorkies I would have been very tempted to get my puppies from her. HOWEVER, since getting my puppies and seeing how important puppy development and socialization is, there is no way I could get a puppy from a kennel.

I have firsthand experience on the impact it has on the dogs - Jaya, my first yorkie who's 6 months, is the most perfect dog ever -- behaviorwise. She was raised in home with her parents and other dogs with people doting on her. When i brought her home at 10-11 weeks, on the advise of the breeder, i set up my home similarly to hers for the pup, and jaya never cried or was upset or anything! She was pad-trained, never chewed on anything but her toys, i could go on and on, and for a firsttime pet owner at the time, she was SO easy to bring into my home. And even now she is so well behaved... honestly, the most perfect dog.

In contrast, Jenna, who i got from the same breeder ---but wasnt raised with her (its complicated, but the breeder got jenna from one of her friends at a price I could afford since hers were showquality and way too expensive for me, and since there was a level of trust between us, i trusted her and still do trust her opinion). Anyways! I believe Jenna was taken too early from her mother, and before the breeder brought her home, i think she lived in a kennel-like environment.

The differences between Jenna and Jaya are huge! Jenna (now 12 weeks, and i've had her for about two and half weeks) is so demanding and constantly crying and whining, and though she is much more affectionate, I know I am going to have issues with her behavior.

I can't express to you how different the experiences with each dog was... the transition with Jaya was SO easy! and with Jenna... its been.. much more difficult.

The development of a puppy is very important. And since I have not spoken to anyone who has purchased a puppy from this kennel, I can't say anything. In addition, I have no knowledge of how the puppies are raised there, and for all I know, these pups could be getting all the attention in the world. I need to speak to the kennel-owner and ppl who have purchased their pups from her, to be able to say anything in regards to her pups and her business.

In regards to the sizes of the dams..... the pups must be extremely tiny, and the litter size can't be very big... i'd estimate the litter size to be one or two max, and the survival rate of the entire litter to be slim. I am not a breeder, and don't have enough knowledge about this to even be able to comment on the impact it would have on such a tiny dam.

Let's just say, I've had ignorant ppl come up to me after looking at my pups and say "omg you should totally breed them they're gorgeous and you'd make so much money" ---- I have had to make a rude comment in response! I love my dogs too much! My heart breaks at the pain they will have to endure in getting spayed, but I must to avoid them getting pregnant or getting cancer. I love them too much to make them go through pregnancy and potential c-section. It is so hard on a dog, much less such a small dog.

The breeder I got my pups from, as I've stated earlier had a litter from one of her smaller yorkies (4-5) and she yielded all "teacups" --but through her pregnancy, the breeder was basically house-trapped because she refused to let the dam be alone, especially during the last few weeks of the pregnancy. The breeder said she will not go through that again and that the dam won't be getting pregnant again even if her litter was healthy. It was just too hard on her, and the constant supervision and constant care for the dam's wellbeing due to her size was extreme.

I wonder how much attention this kennel's dams get during their pregnancy, since it took such a toll on a home breeder with only one dam.

Over and over again, I see responses from people that either didn't fully read the previous posts or, as in this case, they take what is written out of context. This is why I usually don't respond to responses. However, to clarify my position ...
That's not what I said at all. I said "... they appear to look very much like the Yorkies we see winning at AKC dog shows ..."

I KNOW they are NOT of show quality. My point was that facially, they LOOK very much like the standard - like AKC Yorkshire Terriers.

It appears to me like you girls are giving the impression that small dogs will have health problems and that non-small and AKC registered dogs do not. To be fair, generally this may be true, but is NOT ABSOLUTE. To the OP and others who may be concerned with this issue... Point of fact - Our 'teapot' yorkie we got from a small kennel, who, at that time, bred exclusively Yorkies, is AKC registered and weighs 14 lbs. She looks less like a Yorkie than these Velvet Touch Yorkies, she's had both knees operated on for LP, she's got allergies and other health issues. In addition, frankly, she's a little neurotic.

I've read many posts from YTers who have NOT had health issues with their small Yorkies.

In closing, all I ask is for us to use a little more discretion, restraint, and understanding when discussing other kennels, their breeding practices, dog sizes, appearances, etc.

I Really agree with this statement! I don't know anything about this kennel..
I wouldn't personally get a pup the would be this small. I feel Like you. To many Jump and accuse here with no or little facts.

Which proves my point, thank you. Expressing such strong cutting opinions based on a web site is simply ill conceived.