Before or after assembly?;)

Sorry...off topic, I know. But I couldn't resist.:rolleyes: Silliness is a clear indication that it is time to go to bed.

I also got a really nice (NOT) pm from him as well. He threaten a "law suit" if I cross the "line". It really makes me want to run out and get one of his puppies (NOT).
I am sure I can guess who tipped him off of this conversation.

I am one who would love for him to discuss his breeding practice so that we can all understand.

In all my years, I have NEVER seen where it is accepted to breed such small little mommies.

So I will sit back and wait for this wonderful explanation so that we can all understand.

Well, that pm to myfairlacy, was just uncalled for period!
And I'm sorry sir, but, the lady I got mine from had been breeding for 15 years, and my 4 lb yorkie(the parents were small) is now 14 lbs. and NOT from over feeding..there are throwbacks, and I have one, and I love all 14 lbs. of her...I would still NEVER, EVER buy a yorkie from someone that breeds that small of yorkies..Your pm to myfairlacy showed me just what kind of person you are..seems funny to me also, how you don't have the prices down...:rolleyes:

Well, you must be one of the ones who does 'not know what you are talking about.':rolleyes:

all i can say is WOW!!! :eek:

talk about unflattering PR!!

I got one too, just stating that for my information there are 7 employees that work there. That was my only comment, so I think he's pretty upset.

I'm happy to know there are more people taking care of the puppies...whatever.

someone please slap me on my head:D

Wow, the kennel's response is truly unbelievable!:eek: I was keeping an open mind and waiting for his response and he sure helped me make up my mind! I wonder if he realizes that he just turned off over 25,000 yorkie owners many of whom belong to other dog forums and will always remember that their reaction to simple and common questions is extremely angry and defensive. If this is how they represent themselves on a public forum, how are they behind closed doors or (gasp) after they have your money?

:thumbup: :thumbup: I hope they realize how they have further tarnished an already questionable reputation..

Dawn

proves to me even more that it is a business. I see the breeder hasn't said anything else...

Imo
 

Okay, these threads I usually read through and silently agree or disagree. I saw this first when the thread just opened, looked up the Velvet Touch website, and after reading all that's been posted here decided to put my 2cents in.......just my own opinion, mind you.....
1 - "Teacups" - :thumbdown no such thing, dislike the term, immediately a turn-off...wouldn't buy from them for just that reason
2 - Breeding females that tiny -:thumbdown ; wouldn't do it, scary to do it, just plain wrong to do it....so, uh, no thanks.
3 - the video of the place....:thumbdown outdoor kennels (and lots of them), many dogs running, jumping....not because they were happy IMO, but more likely starving for some quality playtime and attention. Well socialized puppies (and adults for that matter)...I think probably not.
And on that note, did I just read there are just 7 employees that work there...to tend to how many dogs and puppies????!!!! Or am I misunderstanding that comment.

In any case, just from the points I made above, if I was looking for a yorkie or poodle pup, I myself would not consider buying from that kennel no matter how clean it looks or how adorable the pictures are. The above points to me are 3 red flags, so 1, 2, 3 strikes you're out! They may be fine for some people, but not for me.

Oh, and the comments from the owner that I've read about......just put the icing on an already bad tasting cake (IMO)

You know, I just re read the post to myfairlacy....What an idiot this man is, her 7 lb dog being big....LOL I should send him pics of my Haley....LOL but, I bet she's 10 times cuter than his dogs..I think she is anyway.....Oh well, maybe they won't come back on here(oh, we can only hope)..And myfairlacy, you need to put that baby of yours on a diet:D

Very well Said Rose I agree 1000%:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown


I am curious as to what the Member who posted that they didn't have a problem with them has to say about it now?

Wow is all I can say. Just talk about showing your A$$. The breeder/kennel is something else.

I just wanted to say my Lulu was a whopping 3 lbs and and ounce or two above. I would never never ever think to breed her. I had many offers but no way in hell would I do it. No matter what amount of money was offered. They are so small I can't see her sustaining a pregnancy and then safely whelping.

"Dog of the Future"...that is one hell of a lable for a dog to carry. Seems rather detached and sterile to me. Just made me think of some sort of money making venture.

Good luck to that kennel/breeder and the people that decide to buy from him. I know personally I wouldn't buy a pup from them. They have way too many dogs for my taste and while I can see a tiny from a litter I wouldn't knowingly buy from someone breeding down to make the tinies.

I just looked at the sires and dams and a wave of frustration washed over me. They dogs look plump because of their full coat. I know from seeing Lulu who I kept in a shorter coat that they are really bony and tiny when they are cut down. It really stressed me to think about how tiny these females are under all the hair and having them being pregnant and trying to deliver a litter.

Personally, I would rather not jump to conclusions about this kennel before REALLY hearing their side of things. I mean REALLY listening to their reasoning for breeding the size puppies they do and the way they do it. Once I hear those things, I would be more prepared to make my decision. I really hope to hear further responses from him.

Well like I posted, I was also ready to keep an open mind but their response, or lack there of, spoke volumes to me.

I admit so far what has been posted by the owner has not given me the idea that this is where I would want to purchase a dog, however what I am saying is I hope he was just a bit over reactive in his response and given some cool down time, might be able to give us a more reasonable response, with more detailed anwsers. I can't imagine a dog about the size of Ava giving birth, so I feel there are things to anwser but, I just want to hear their honest responses.

IMO, at this point, there is NOTHING they can post in regards to justifying their program that is going to repair the damage done by the PMs sent and the insults delivered by the posts...over reaction or not...you have to reap what you sew.

In addition to that, what can one possibly say to justify breeding a 3 pound dog? Nothing. There is no amount of explanation that can change justify that.:thumbdown

I agree w/ Nikki--they have an open floor here to clear up things and have not taken the opportunity...

well, I think they are pretty smart in NOT responding, I'm sure they know the general opinion here, I do and I don't know anything about breeding these dogs.

I think they would have been better off not responding than responding how they did. They really made themselves look pretty bad. The threatening PMs didn't help either.

I seriously am not trying to defend the kennel, and I do agree that the responses were more damaging than anything. I do not see how a 2 or 3 lb female can be strong enough to give birth. I wonder what the YT members who purchased their dogs from these people have to say about their experiance with them.

Are there any YT members who got a dog from them?:confused:

WOW - How did I miss this one???

Anyway, I REFUSE to visit his site - I do not want to give him anymore hit rates then necessary. But I got a pretty good picture from reading the posts here.

I am looking forward to hearing about what tests they do to make sure there are no genetic defects.

I won't even go there about breeding those tiny 'teacups' :scratchhe :scratchhe :scratchhe

Just going off this post :confused:

When I did a search ealier a member, barbg402 had purchased 3 puppies from them and was happy with them. To each their own. I still would rather my babies were hand raised then in a kennel.

Hmmm...I don't know how to search for anything using 'Advanced Search' just the one word search.:rolleyes:

oh my. I really don't know what to say. I think this "breeder" has summed it all up. what a troll.

they should be ashamed of themselves. really. those girls are just too little. I couldn't imagine.

it's sad that they have taken these dogs and made it their "job". look at that place. cage after cage after cage. and then some more cages. that word "cage" just turns me WAY off. and they use that word a lot on their site. it is what it is...a cage. there is no way possible that these dogs have the attention, care, and love that they need. the sheer fact that they have so many makes me wonder what they do if they have a very sick pup. how much care can they give that pup?

I will say that I think it is a little ironic how this "breeder" had one very strong supporter through most of this thread...then the "breeder" shows up, makes a *$$ of himself, and neither of those people are posting in this thread anymore. hmmmm. a little fishy.

and i agree....I have seen MUCH cuter pups, and the dams and sires aren't much to look at.

I don't like it one bit. and I really don't like the "breeder" that posted here...he seems like a real nice person to work with....sheesh

just my :twocents: now I'm done :D

I got a pm from him too this morning.

All I can say is it's a shame!

How come people who send mean PM's aren't banned? I know on another thread a breeder had PM'd some awful things and yet a week later I saw that person posting. I just wondered why they're allowed to still continue to post after that and not removed.