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jbarile · 03-31-2007, 02:20 PM

well everyone that remembers me will remember I am the one that said I would never Crate my babies..

well I AM SO WRONG!!!

The problem is I moved to Ut from Wa into my daughters home until my home there sold so I could buy another home here, well it has been 3 months that I have been living here. Both Tilly and Sami has been peeing all over my daughters new home

I had been gating the bedroom we live in with pee pads to limit this problem. I purchased a new home and will be here until escrow closes on or about 4/10. Now by confining them to the bedroom and encouraging them to use the pee pads for the last three months has now caused this room to smell like a kennel? or just pee? So I decided to buy crates for the both of them and keep them in there and allow them to come out to go outside to do their business.. but being I am new to crating I have no idea what I am doing here?
so I ask your advice and opinions how to do this? How long do I leave them in the crate while I am home? since they cannot be supervised? I am currently busy packing and cannot let them out, besides My daughter does not want them out at all! and well understood! but how often do they need to be let out to go pee & poo? sorry I have just entered into the unkown of crating and the do's and don'ts??

and I really could use any and all advice..

marcerella02 · 03-31-2007, 03:53 PM

hi... sorry i am no help but i just wanted to wish you luck with this

Yorkiedaze · 03-31-2007, 04:13 PM

I hope you have the carpet replaced for your daughter. As for crating, well it may stress them terribly and cause some diarrhea, but you do need to let them outside ever hour or so for potty breaks and exercise. I would have crated mine the first time I saw that they would pee in the house.

jbarile · 03-31-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

I hope you have the carpet replaced for your daughter. As for crating, well it may stress them terribly and cause some diarrhea, but you do need to let them outside ever hour or so for potty breaks and exercise. I would have crated mine the first time I saw that they would pee in the house.

I know I should have! but they were both 100% trained to go out they used their doggy door, sorry I should have mentioned this, tilly is 12 and for 7 years now has cushings. the vet told me her muscles around the bladder have now weakened and is near kidney failure and this was the cause for her accidents without her control, it wasn't like she just squatted and peed she would be standing there and it would just start? this is why I returned to the vet to find out if her cushings was now possibly diabetes? but anyway I think with moving them from their enviorement to a new place made them unstable and I just have to re-train them once they are settled in their own home, I didn't want to be judged here i just asked for assitance on crating! her urine is not concetrated like healthy dogs it is diluted so no she didn't ruin my daughters carpet, I have cleaned every time with natures miracle! so don't think I am ignorant in that area.. but thank you for your opinion

Yorkiedaze · 03-31-2007, 05:53 PM

I'd still replace the carpet.

My 15 year old Chihuahua started peeing all the time in her bed, so I took her to the Vet. last week for a blood test. She has a urinary track infection so is on meds for two weeks then I take another urin sample in to see if she has an underlying problem. She has lost so much weight that she now looks emaciated and her hair that use to look and feel like a bunny, is now very coarse and thin. She looks just terrible poor ol gal. So I know what your going thru. When we go visit our sons in Morgan Hill and San Francisco, she stays in her little crate. Of course she has no eyes, so she stays in bed all the time, but I do put her out every hour for exercise and potty. She also has to get a bath each morning from peeing and laying in it. It's all so sad when they get like this isn't it. I'm sorry if I made you feel bad. I do come across a bit harsh but not meaning to.

biewerlover · 03-31-2007, 06:06 PM

I have always used a crate when it comes to smaller dogs. IMO there is NO other way to get your puppy housetrained, and I've had great success. Generally, my new guy is crated when i leave for work (8am) and I return at 1pm to let then out on lunch, he is then crated until 5p when I get home and then its fun time. He is doing great, never messed in the crate. I would say to start with let them out every hr (Unless your dog with the weak bladder needs to go out more often) Move the crate where they can see you pack. If they whine, do not take them out. Tap the crate and say "quiet". Only remove them when they are quite. When I get home if Bently is whining I wait until he is quiet then take him outside. At night the crate is next to my bed and he sleeps quietly all night. Obviously after meal time they will need to go anywhere from 1-3hrs later, you probably know your dogs situation best. Good Luck, I'm sure it is very stressful not being in your own place.
Kathy

jbarile · 04-01-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

I'd still replace the carpet.

My 15 year old Chihuahua started peeing all the time in her bed, so I took her to the Vet. last week for a blood test. She has a urinary track infection so is on meds for two weeks then I take another urin sample in to see if she has an underlying problem. She has lost so much weight that she now looks emaciated and her hair that use to look and feel like a bunny, is now very coarse and thin. She looks just terrible poor ol gal. So I know what your going thru. When we go visit our sons in Morgan Hill and San Francisco, she stays in her little crate. Of course she has no eyes, so she stays in bed all the time, but I do put her out every hour for exercise and potty. She also has to get a bath each morning from peeing and laying in it. It's all so sad when they get like this isn't it. I'm sorry if I made you feel bad. I do come across a bit harsh but not meaning to.

Thanks! I do understand that is so sad she doesn't have her eyes it appears you are in much pain and worry, It worries me about tilly because I know it wont be long before I loose her and I cannot bring myself to put her down like my daughter suggested

I just can't! she isn't in any pain just part of the cushings condition, she has hair loss and her belly is like a little potbelly pig but she still trys to play and has alot more life in her, I dont feel I am being selfish I just want her to go on her own time. I do understand your pain it is terrible to see them go through these changes. I have been following your advice I keep them crated for an hour then take them out to potty then back to our room and play with them for awhile while the pee pads are in place then keep tilly in her crate all night because she had peed the bed the other night so I know the stages of her condition are getting the best of her.
the good news is the escrow on my home will close in 10 days so they both will be able to settle in... I hope! sami is doing so much better he wasn't urinating like tilly but enough to catch him at it

Im hoping they both will get back on track when they are in their own home and I install a new doggy door, I talked with my daughter about replacing the carpet in the bedroom we have been staying on and she decided to have carpet specialist come out which they did and he tested the carpet for moisture and crystals enzymes? he said since I have been using the natures miracle and since the pads are always down it shouldn't need to be replaced, but the pad under the carpet may have to if there was spill overs from the pad which I might have missed? so we scheduled a appt for them to clean and check the pads and if the pad are ruined, I will replace it, anyway I wish you the best with your baby too! thanks again for your advice

Sweetums · 04-02-2007, 08:00 PM

Personally, I don't like crating. It's too much like locking them up in prison to me. I prefer to keep my puppy tethered to me with the extending leash. She sneak off this way and pee or poo in front of me without me catching her in the act and taking her to her pad. She's done really well with this method. It's not giving her the run of the house either.

Of course, if you are out of the house and working for instance, then this method won't work. But if you are around all day, then you might give it a try instead of traumatizing an animal that hasn't been cooped up this way before and has no idea why it is being put in prison.

03-31-2007, 02:20 PM	#1
jbarile Tilly & Sami Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Syracuse, Utah Posts: 1,133	Please I Need Advice... well everyone that remembers me will remember I am the one that said I would never Crate my babies.. well I AM SO WRONG!!! The problem is I moved to Ut from Wa into my daughters home until my home there sold so I could buy another home here, well it has been 3 months that I have been living here. Both Tilly and Sami has been peeing all over my daughters new home I had been gating the bedroom we live in with pee pads to limit this problem. I purchased a new home and will be here until escrow closes on or about 4/10. Now by confining them to the bedroom and encouraging them to use the pee pads for the last three months has now caused this room to smell like a kennel? or just pee? So I decided to buy crates for the both of them and keep them in there and allow them to come out to go outside to do their business.. but being I am new to crating I have no idea what I am doing here? so I ask your advice and opinions how to do this? How long do I leave them in the crate while I am home? since they cannot be supervised? I am currently busy packing and cannot let them out, besides My daughter does not want them out at all! and well understood! but how often do they need to be let out to go pee & poo? sorry I have just entered into the unkown of crating and the do's and don'ts?? and I really could use any and all advice.. __________________ Rip Tilly girl

03-31-2007, 03:53 PM	#2
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	hi... sorry i am no help but i just wanted to wish you luck with this __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

03-31-2007, 04:13 PM	#3
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	I hope you have the carpet replaced for your daughter. As for crating, well it may stress them terribly and cause some diarrhea, but you do need to let them outside ever hour or so for potty breaks and exercise. I would have crated mine the first time I saw that they would pee in the house.

03-31-2007, 05:53 PM	#5
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	I'd still replace the carpet. My 15 year old Chihuahua started peeing all the time in her bed, so I took her to the Vet. last week for a blood test. She has a urinary track infection so is on meds for two weeks then I take another urin sample in to see if she has an underlying problem. She has lost so much weight that she now looks emaciated and her hair that use to look and feel like a bunny, is now very coarse and thin. She looks just terrible poor ol gal. So I know what your going thru. When we go visit our sons in Morgan Hill and San Francisco, she stays in her little crate. Of course she has no eyes, so she stays in bed all the time, but I do put her out every hour for exercise and potty. She also has to get a bath each morning from peeing and laying in it. It's all so sad when they get like this isn't it. I'm sorry if I made you feel bad. I do come across a bit harsh but not meaning to.

03-31-2007, 06:06 PM	#6
biewerlover YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 272	I have always used a crate when it comes to smaller dogs. IMO there is NO other way to get your puppy housetrained, and I've had great success. Generally, my new guy is crated when i leave for work (8am) and I return at 1pm to let then out on lunch, he is then crated until 5p when I get home and then its fun time. He is doing great, never messed in the crate. I would say to start with let them out every hr (Unless your dog with the weak bladder needs to go out more often) Move the crate where they can see you pack. If they whine, do not take them out. Tap the crate and say "quiet". Only remove them when they are quite. When I get home if Bently is whining I wait until he is quiet then take him outside. At night the crate is next to my bed and he sleeps quietly all night. Obviously after meal time they will need to go anywhere from 1-3hrs later, you probably know your dogs situation best. Good Luck, I'm sure it is very stressful not being in your own place. Kathy

04-02-2007, 08:00 PM	#8
Sweetums Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 431	Personally, I don't like crating. It's too much like locking them up in prison to me. I prefer to keep my puppy tethered to me with the extending leash. She sneak off this way and pee or poo in front of me without me catching her in the act and taking her to her pad. She's done really well with this method. It's not giving her the run of the house either. Of course, if you are out of the house and working for instance, then this method won't work. But if you are around all day, then you might give it a try instead of traumatizing an animal that hasn't been cooped up this way before and has no idea why it is being put in prison.