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07-22-2006, 10:57 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tyler, TX
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| help with rollover?? ok so addy is 4 months now.....she is about 75% efficient on potty.....she will run to the door most of the time but is still crated at night. she knows that a treat is soon to come. we had a bout with eating our own poo but were on meds now to try and control that.....one question i have is... is there any possibility shes eating it to hide it from us? it is very clear that she knows its wrong....she acts out when she knows she has done it....sometimes she will go in her crate and then eat it up. secondy...she is outstanding with sit, lay down and jumping..... she will do all three for treats and its adorable.....if you dont give her the treat soon enough she will whine at you.....but lay down works good in the bed as she will usually go to sleep.....but i cant figure out why she is scared to roll over.???? it is the strangest thing....i have tried using hand motions and i have tried manually rolling her and every time she runs away and wants no more treats or anything. she wont hardly come near us??? what gives? all u have to do is say "roll over" and she will bolt!! |
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07-23-2006, 02:10 AM | #2 |
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| i can't help you with the poop but to roll a dog on her back is a very submissive position for a dog to be in, that can be a little scary if your dog's a naturally dominant dog. It's taking a long time to teach Evil Wee to roll over because she's a dominant dog. I'm training with her on the couch and me kneeling so that's a nice soft place to be and she's not on the floor. I place an arm either side of her and scoop her onto her back and give a treat then let her flop side to side - lots of treats - lots of praise. I just do it a couple of times and she's getting better. And doesn't fight me so much when I flip her over. It's taking a long time not because she doesn't understand but that she isn't keen on it. She gets most things really quickly.
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07-23-2006, 07:10 AM | #3 |
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| I can't help with the poo either, sorry. Hmm..I didn't really consider the submissive thing about rolling over, that makes a lot of sense. It took me forever to get Reagan to roll over. I prob started with it around 6 months maybe and she was at least a year old when she finally got it and sometimes she still won't do it. I did take break here and there though since she didn't like it. What I did is have her lay down, then kinda coax her to lay on her side a little(if I had to I would physically move her so that she was laying on her side) Then I would take the treat hold it in front of her nose then slowly roll it over her head towards her back. She will try to follow it with her eyes/head then eventually, when the treat gtes far enough, she will roll over to get it. Of course this is all in theory it doesn't always work, as you can see at least 6 months of it for us. Sometimes I would give her a little push to get her going too. Oh and I did notice that Reagan prefers to do it to one side so if you notice that with you pup stick you may want to stick to that side until he gets it down.
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07-23-2006, 07:14 AM | #4 |
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| Oh and with Reagan she hated it so much that she figured out that, with us, roll over always came after lay down so she stopped laying down on command. She had "down" down pat until "roll over" came along then there was no way you could get her to do it. Really just keep practicing there will be a day it may be soon or not but it will come when your pup will just do it. That's exactly how it happened for us. Just one day she finallyl gave in and did it. You should have seen me I about had a heart attack I couldn't believe she had done it. She got tons of treats that time.
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07-23-2006, 07:38 AM | #5 |
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| I thought I was going to have trouble with Tinka doing the rollover, but she learned in 2 days. At first I had her sit, then down and then when I said roll over, I physically rolled her over. She didn't like it much. I did it several times and gave her a tiny treat each time. The second day I went to try it again - I had to roll her over once, then she started doing it on her own. Now, whenever I say, "down" - she automatically lays down and rolls over - not exactly what I want her to do - especially in training class! So, now we have to work on the down/stay instead of down/roll. omega |
07-25-2006, 01:15 PM | #6 | |
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07-31-2006, 06:53 AM | #7 |
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| My daughter taught Remmy to rollover. Start with sit, then down, then she took a treat and took it to his nose then slowly moved the treat by his ear and around his neck...letting him follow the treat. Natually he rolls on his back to get to the treat and then all the way over. Now if we say sit, he sits lays down then rolls over. Smart little bugger!
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08-02-2006, 09:58 AM | #8 |
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| My pup has no problem with being on his back.Will it stay that way? I just got my puppy a few days ago and, during playing, I figured that he likes rolling around as long as i 'help' him with my own palm.I even saw him sleeping with all fours up in the air (the cutest thing).Is it because he's so young (8.5 weeks) and hasn't started challenging my authority yet? How do I keep him that way? Thanks, any help will be greatly appreciated.
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08-02-2006, 10:15 AM | #9 |
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| Well, I noticed that AddysMomma posted in another thread that Addy rolls over on command so I don't think this is still an issue for her. But, I would like to say, blondflava, that I wouldn''t worry too much about your pup "challenging your authority". The alpha/domination theory is way over-rated. Just enjoy your pup. Okay?
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08-02-2006, 10:20 AM | #10 | |
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Annika is the same thing . . . did not take her long to do it. . . but sometimes when I give the down command she would already roll-over as she wants to get it over with so she can get her treat . | |
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