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06-08-2017, 08:56 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Montréal
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| Potty training : outisde or pee pads ? Hey there! I would like to hear members of this forum on their experience with potty training. We have been looking for a little one and we finally brought home a 15 weeks old yorkshire puppy 2 days ago. Before the search I had in mind to have the next dog we bring home go potty outisde. We've had two other dogs and they were both going on pee pad. The first dog did fine with pee pad except she would sometimes do right beside. The second dog was a rehoming and she would eat her excrements if I let them there. So I decided my next dog would go outside and I would walk her. Somehow this idea changed and I got in the pee pad way again. Especially since I saw she was used to it. When we brought her home I didn't have time to put the pad and she peed on the floor, so I wiped it with a pad that I then left of the floor. She went back on it 2 times for a peepee and one time for poop (been picked up). But since then, she did not went back on pads (I also offered a new one), but just goes wherever. Since we just got her, I let her get used to us and the house without stressing her too much about much. But today I want to start training her. I was ready to start the pee pad training but some people from my entourage dsicouraged me again saying she will pee on anything that is on the floor. Now, I am confused... What are your experience with pee pad? Outside? I was thinking on maybe doin the pee pad and then getting it closer to the door until it is outside. Does this sound doable? Then I also think, how it would go in our cold winters. Will she want to go? |
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06-08-2017, 12:35 PM | #2 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Hampton,Virginia
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| Pee Pad or Outside Hi, Congratulations on bringing home your new puppy. And welcome to the forum. I myself like my yorkie to potty in the house. Yours has only been with you as you said two days so she or he is not used to you or your routine and it can take a while to train them as I well know. I don't like myself to go out in the winter so I won't take Joey out as he is only less than 4 lbs full grown. I don't use pee pads though. I have a product called UGODOG. It is a large plastic container that has two plastic grids on top of the container where the pee goes that has small square holes that the pee goes down into and his poop stays on top when he goes on the potty box as I call it and I pick that up each time. I have access to newspapers so I use them to layer the bottom of the UGODOG. He can't get to the newspapers and I clean it out each day or twice sometimes. This is just my experience. Hope you find the best solution for you and your new young'un.
__________________ Gone but never forgotten,my Joey. 06/24/2018 |
06-08-2017, 01:14 PM | #3 |
YT Addict Join Date: May 2017 Location: Wenatchee, WA USA
Posts: 380
| Pee pads vs outside Our yorkie pup is our third dog over many years. After our mini dachshund was outside trained and all the ramifications of that for clean up, weather extremes, travel, etc. we decided our yorkie would be pee pad trained. When we chose a breeder we knew our breeder started training from day 1. She used rewashable pads, which we moved away from in favor of disposable. We use a silicone mat under the pad that protects the floor and keeps the pad from slipping. Here is a list of lessons we learned. 1. Choose THE place you want your pee pads to go and only place them there. For a variety of reasons, we put the pee pad in a bathtub at night for those puppy waking times so we would take her potty and then right back to her crate. Then during the day, the pad was where we wanted it. It confused the pup so she'd try to go back to the tub and since she couldn't get in, she'd pee close to the tub. That mistake took a while to undo. 2. Restrict the living area for your pup until compliance and accuracy to returning to the pee pad is 100%. Pick up throw rugs and other items on the floor that the dog could confuse with pee pads. When you get 100% compliance, put those things back down to insure compliance before you expand their living access. 3. Don't put the pee pads near food or bedding. Dogs don't want to soil those things. Choose a place that is not prone to interruption from daily activity and always accessible to the dog. 4. Change the pee pad routinely, maybe once a day so the dog has a clean area. Clean up poo after the dog has been rewarded, moves away and is otherwise engaged so removal isn't confused with the accidents you'll clean up immediately. 5. Initially reward with treats and/or praise every time when you get success. Don't punish mistakes. Quickly clean up mistakes with an enzymatic cleaner to remove scent attraction. If our pup pooped off the pad, I would take it to the pad and show it too her and tell her that is where she should go, clean the mistake spot, and later flush the poo. These were really the biggies for use. Occasionally, we would still find her trying to establish another spot, usually a throw rug, to go. We would take that rug up, clean it with special products, and go back to a restricted area until we felt she was ready again. This regression usually occurred after we had had company or had been traveling with her. So, we chalked it up to reclaiming her territory and a break in training due to travel. Recently, we have had no problem and we found using the same pee pad set up in our motor home and in hotels has resulted in great convenience and success. Consistency is the key. Good luck with your new puppy! |
06-08-2017, 02:53 PM | #4 |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| It's more natural for dogs to want to eliminate outdoors where animals can share their scent with other critters that 'read' scent messages transferred via urine, feces, plus it's just plain cleaner and more sanitary with all of the mess, wetness and odor left outdoors. We thankfully don't have to see, smell and clean up the products of their several-times daily eliminations, a job I hate, hate, hate. And worse still is coming home or waking mornings to a pad full of feces and soaked-in urine that have been congealing there fouling the air in the whole house!!! And forget what it looks like! Even holding your breath during clean-up, afterward the walls, floor-covering and furniture seem to take up the odors that I can smell despite whatever deodorizers used to 'freshen' the area. Outdoor elimination is the only way I can manage. Don't know what I'll do when I get too old to manage a house and have to move into a small apartment one day - but I'll cross that bridge if and when I come to it. I can't imagine how hard it must be to have to take a dog 3 stories down to 'go' outside in a public area. I feel so sorry for doglovers dealing with that. But I know I'll have to as I can't imagine not having a dog, 3rd floor apartment or not! Tibbe will hold himself for hours for the privilege of getting to leave all his wonderful odors outside for all the wild critters he imagines come around to admire and 'read' them, whatever they say. He so proudly backkicks in hopes of further spreading that message-laden scent of his that I couldn't deny him his right to share. If it's raining really hard or snowing, he will hold out until it lightens up unless I insist and then he'll go on out and do his deed(s) even in the heaviest of downpours. After a good towel-off, it's all over and there's no yucky mess to see, smell and clean up and smell for an hour. Tibbe's trained to go around in circles several times on a clean towel to dry his feet in the Utility Porch and if he's very wet, I use another towel to dry his head and back. To me, this is much preferred to cleaning up the actual fecal material and urine-stained, wet, very stinky pads that then have to go in the toilet and/or outside trash - where they'll continue to stink unless you put them in impermeable plastic bags and pray they don't get punctured. Give me an outside-trained dog any day as long as I have a choice.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
06-08-2017, 03:57 PM | #5 | |
YT Addict Join Date: May 2017 Location: Wenatchee, WA USA
Posts: 380
| Different noses.... Quote:
I just had to laugh as I read this! This is why we don't have another cat! I couldn't in any way stand the smell of litter. It didn't matter the brand or the location. Our stinky boy made stinky litter. We are all too aware of becoming "nose blind" to the pee pad smell and do as much as possible to make sure out little 4lb 5oz girl doesn't leave unpleasant odors in her wake. But I'm sure our dainty little yorkie only leaves the daintiest of smells.....................NOT! Surely, our abilities impact our decisions and we all do the best we can. | |
06-08-2017, 05:28 PM | #6 | |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
Posts: 22,140
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Never again as long as I have a choice will I have any animal use my home as his potty site when I have a full-sized yard just outside each door and it deodorizes itself. And my next Yorkie, tiny 3 lb. Jilly, went potty outside in rain, ice and snow. She would dash out in her coat or sweater, do her biz and was right back inside in just a little over a few heartbeats! Tibbe is the same way - out and back in, except when he decides to linger in the rain, which he kinda likes to do sometimes. Then we have some extra toweling to do - but that's it, just toweling, nothing yucky, stinky, messy or unsanitary!
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
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