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linz06 · 01-10-2006, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

Lindsey,

This may sound brutal, but I have to ask you this. When you say "I can't do this", have you given up? If so, that's fine, contact the breeder and see if they will take her back. No need to prolong the agony if you've decided it's hopeless.

If you really want help with this, reread Princess Zoe's post. That's exactly how her biting should be handled if she's biting you hard enought that it hurts. If she's just mouthing you (lightly chewing on you), simply substitute a toy or some rawhide.

If she bites you everytime you get on the floor, DON'T GET ON THE FLOOR! There's no reason why you can't play with her while sitting in a chair.

I'm not surprised that yelling, tapping her on the nose, or biting her back

didn't work. She acted aggressively, then you acted aggressively. She thought you were playing a fun game.

The way to stop this is to teach her that bite me = loss of attention. It will take MANY repetitions.

Hitting a Yorkie (even "out of love") is abuse. Period.

I have definitely not given up on her! I love her way too much to let her leave me! I was just very frustrated yesterday. Actually, last night for the first time she played nicely!! I think she realized how I felt lol... She was jumping around at her rope toy i was wiggling in the air, and when she caught it we would both tug on it until she got it and chewed on it for a bit, then she would come to me and set it at her feet until I picked it up again! I was so proud! No hand biting except a couple times by accident when she was trying to get the toy, which of course was okay with me!

chachi · 01-10-2006, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by linz06

I have definitely not given up on her! I love her way too much to let her leave me! I was just very frustrated yesterday. Actually, last night for the first time she played nicely!! I think she realized how I felt lol... She was jumping around at her rope toy i was wiggling in the air, and when she caught it we would both tug on it until she got it and chewed on it for a bit, then she would come to me and set it at her feet until I picked it up again! I was so proud! No hand biting except a couple times by accident when she was trying to get the toy, which of course was okay with me!

It seems very frustrating when you have a little one going thrrough that phase of biting and chewing all the time but they do outgrow that. I have a 11 month old and a 12 month old and went through it with both of them they dont do it anymore and havent for a while now.

linz06 · 01-10-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

It seems very frustrating when you have a little one going thrrough that phase of biting and chewing all the time but they do outgrow that. I have a 11 month old and a 12 month old and went through it with both of them they dont do it anymore and havent for a while now.

Well I'm glad to hear I have something to look forward to! My other dogs were never this bad, so I'm not used to it, and my poor hands are definitly not used to it!

d4nimal · 01-10-2006, 06:35 AM

Yoshi would love to chew on hands and feet too when I first got him. He has only very recently started to not do it, and I have only seen him go after hands once in the past week when he got a little overexcited with a stranger. The thing that worked best with me is when we were playing or anything if he started chewing on my hands I would put him in a timeout in his crate for 30 seconds, then let him out. The if he did it again he'd go right back in for another minute w/ me sitting there ignoring him. By the 4th or 5th time of doing that and saying "no bite" as soon as he put his teeth on me, he seemed to get the idea a liiiiiiiiiittle better. It seems that time has had the greatest impact so far, and I hope it does for you too.

FirstYorkie · 01-10-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by linz06

I was just very frustrated yesterday. Actually, last night for the first time she played nicely!!

That's great. But when she does start biting you again (and she will, she's just a puppy), can you try to deal with it Princess Zoe's way?

How's the barking and chewing up things?

Princess Zoe · 01-10-2006, 10:30 AM

As for Barking.... that is very difficult to train. I read a yorkshire terrier book that recommended using a spray bottle filled with part water/ part vinegar. Yorkie noses are sensitive to the smell of vinegar and they don't like it. So it says to put a spray bottle on "mist" mode and mist it at them. Some other trainers recommend spraying them, but making sure they don't see where the spray is coming from. That way they associate the bark with the spray, and not YOU with the spray. I haven't had any success with this. They always see me and then I just laugh and it turns into a game.

Like everyone else has said, patience is a wonderful thing. It will all come in time. In my opinion, the training is all part of the FUN! When they begin catching on to things that you have been struggling to teach them, you will be SO proud, and I think that's where alot of deep bonding comes from, with you and your dog. The old saying "you love what you sacrifice for". I think that the more you go through together, the more bonded you'll be in the end. So try to have FUN with your pup and not worry so much about "when" he/she will be trained. Just live each day knowing that some day, with consistency, it will happen, and try to be patient and have FUN together!!!

linz06 · 01-10-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

That's great. But when she does start biting you again (and she will, she's just a puppy), can you try to deal with it Princess Zoe's way?

How's the barking and chewing up things?

Yes, that's the way I've been dealing with it lately, but i think i'm going to start putting her in her crate as well when she continues to do it because I haven't tried that yet. The barking isn't too bad, she barks in the morning when I'm in the shower, or when i've been ignoring her a lot and she wants to play. She hasn't been chewing on things too much. Thankfully I've gotten her to stay away from electrical cords, and sometimes she chews on my desk but nothing else. Any no-bite spray doesn't deter her at all, she licks it. So I think I'm going to try a little hot sauce and hopefully she'll stop that too.

FirstYorkie · 01-10-2006, 11:20 AM

Yeah, putting them in the crate was part of Princess Zoe's advice, too.

As far as a chewing deterrent, someone on the board mentioned clear deodorant and it has been a God-send for us! It works extremely well. Wish I knew who to credit for that suggestion!

FirstYorkie · 01-10-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Zoe

. The old saying "you love what you sacrifice for". I think that the more you go through together, the more bonded you'll be in the end.

I have never heard that expression, but I think that it is sooo true! I realized this when my boys were babies: that by saving my husband from the aggravation of dealing with colic in the evenings and night-time feedings, that I was depriving him of a chance to feel closer/more invested in his sons.

I also have the theory that you love what you spend money on. When I spend time picking out clothes or toys for my sons, I feel closer to them. When I buy things for my puppy, I feel closer to him.

But, as far as barking, that can be tough one. I wonder, Lindsey, what you do when your pup barks. How do you react? That is, if you want more suggestions on how to deal with it. If not, just ignore my question...

Princess Zoe · 01-10-2006, 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=FirstYorkie]
I also have the theory that you love what you spend money on. When I spend time picking out clothes or toys for my sons, I feel closer to them. When I buy things for my puppy, I feel closer to him.QUOTE]

Spending Money on someone or something is definately a sacrifice, and goes right along with "you love what you sacrifice for". Whether you sacrifice your time, or energy, or money, or SLEEP (with a newborn, collicky or sick child..... or new PUPPY

), whatever.... you love it and value it, that much more!!!

SO true

linz06 · 01-10-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

But, as far as barking, that can be tough one. I wonder, Lindsey, what you do when your pup barks. How do you react? That is, if you want more suggestions on how to deal with it. If not, just ignore my question...

I'll take any suggestion that comes my way! I usually just say "NO" or "NO BARKING" in a stern voice and sometimes she stops. She understands it enough to stop doing other things like chewing things she shouldn't (but not my hands!) For example, as I'm typing this she picked up the corner of her pee pad and came ripping through the living room! I said NO and she immediately dropped it. But besides that I honestly don't know what to do. I was looking at things like the high-pitched noise thingy but I don't want her to be scared to bark at all. I just don't want her to bark everytime she wants attention!

Yorkie Mum · 01-10-2006, 07:56 PM

Well I find that offensive on both a trainer of dogs level and as a Nanny of 22 years. Fear training and Bully boy behavior is still abuse and not OK.
I am sure you would not like someone intimidating you and scaring you to get you to do as they wanted. Never hit never unless in self defense.

Joy

Yorkie Mum · 01-10-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie Mum

Well I find that offensive on both a trainer of dogs level and as a Nanny of 22 years. Fear training and Bully boy behavior is still abuse and not OK.
I am sure you would not like someone intimidating you and scaring you to get you to do as they wanted. Never hit never unless in self defense.

Joy

Above does not makes sence anymore as what I was responding to was removed.

Joy

mhorst · 01-11-2006, 04:25 PM

My little Zoe is almost 5 months old. She was quite a biter. Started as playful nibbles and became hard and painful. She'd also jump at our noses and try to bite. Fortunately firm no's, loud ouch's and abrupt loss of attention has finally gotten her out of it. Now she will mouth my hands, but not bite hard. Also, about the barking. When she just turned 4 months, she suddenly discovered her voice and barked at everything. She drove us all nuts the first couple of days. This just lasted a couple of weeks, and now she barks at strange dogs or sometimes when she's playing with her other dogs, and that's about all. Your baby may outgrow this as well.

Wishing you the best!!!!!!

linz06 · 01-11-2006, 04:28 PM

Thanks, I hope she outgrows the barking! I've noticed now that when she barks and I look at her and say NO she wags her tail and barks more! If I ignore it for awhile and don't look at her, she'll go find a toy to play with!

01-10-2006, 06:35 AM	#19
d4nimal Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gainesville Posts: 224	Yoshi would love to chew on hands and feet too when I first got him. He has only very recently started to not do it, and I have only seen him go after hands once in the past week when he got a little overexcited with a stranger. The thing that worked best with me is when we were playing or anything if he started chewing on my hands I would put him in a timeout in his crate for 30 seconds, then let him out. The if he did it again he'd go right back in for another minute w/ me sitting there ignoring him. By the 4th or 5th time of doing that and saying "no bite" as soon as he put his teeth on me, he seemed to get the idea a liiiiiiiiiittle better. It seems that time has had the greatest impact so far, and I hope it does for you too. __________________ Yoshi Wants To Be Your Dog's Friend. He Told Me So. Then He Pooped. Join Yoshi's List of Friends On Dogster!

01-10-2006, 10:30 AM	#21
Princess Zoe YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 251	As for Barking.... that is very difficult to train. I read a yorkshire terrier book that recommended using a spray bottle filled with part water/ part vinegar. Yorkie noses are sensitive to the smell of vinegar and they don't like it. So it says to put a spray bottle on "mist" mode and mist it at them. Some other trainers recommend spraying them, but making sure they don't see where the spray is coming from. That way they associate the bark with the spray, and not YOU with the spray. I haven't had any success with this. They always see me and then I just laugh and it turns into a game. Like everyone else has said, patience is a wonderful thing. It will all come in time. In my opinion, the training is all part of the FUN! When they begin catching on to things that you have been struggling to teach them, you will be SO proud, and I think that's where alot of deep bonding comes from, with you and your dog. The old saying "you love what you sacrifice for". I think that the more you go through together, the more bonded you'll be in the end. So try to have FUN with your pup and not worry so much about "when" he/she will be trained. Just live each day knowing that some day, with consistency, it will happen, and try to be patient and have FUN together!!! __________________ Zoe and Pixie's Mommy Last edited by Princess Zoe; 01-10-2006 at 10:35 AM.

01-10-2006, 11:20 AM	#23
FirstYorkie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London Posts: 1,739	Yeah, putting them in the crate was part of Princess Zoe's advice, too. As far as a chewing deterrent, someone on the board mentioned clear deodorant and it has been a God-send for us! It works extremely well. Wish I knew who to credit for that suggestion! __________________ FirstYorkie We Love Clicker-Training!

01-10-2006, 11:50 AM	#25
Princess Zoe YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 251	[QUOTE=FirstYorkie] I also have the theory that you love what you spend money on. When I spend time picking out clothes or toys for my sons, I feel closer to them. When I buy things for my puppy, I feel closer to him.QUOTE] Spending Money on someone or something is definately a sacrifice, and goes right along with "you love what you sacrifice for". Whether you sacrifice your time, or energy, or money, or SLEEP (with a newborn, collicky or sick child..... or new PUPPY ), whatever.... you love it and value it, that much more!!! SO true __________________ Zoe and Pixie's Mommy Last edited by Princess Zoe; 01-10-2006 at 11:54 AM.

01-10-2006, 07:56 PM	#27
Yorkie Mum YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere land Posts: 364	Well I find that offensive on both a trainer of dogs level and as a Nanny of 22 years. Fear training and Bully boy behavior is still abuse and not OK. I am sure you would not like someone intimidating you and scaring you to get you to do as they wanted. Never hit never unless in self defense. Joy Last edited by simonandhallie; 01-10-2006 at 08:16 PM.

01-11-2006, 04:25 PM	#29
mhorst Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 177	My little Zoe is almost 5 months old. She was quite a biter. Started as playful nibbles and became hard and painful. She'd also jump at our noses and try to bite. Fortunately firm no's, loud ouch's and abrupt loss of attention has finally gotten her out of it. Now she will mouth my hands, but not bite hard. Also, about the barking. When she just turned 4 months, she suddenly discovered her voice and barked at everything. She drove us all nuts the first couple of days. This just lasted a couple of weeks, and now she barks at strange dogs or sometimes when she's playing with her other dogs, and that's about all. Your baby may outgrow this as well. Wishing you the best!!!!!! __________________ Zoe's Mom & Chase's Gram http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?i=257369

01-11-2006, 04:28 PM	#30
linz06 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,154	Thanks, I hope she outgrows the barking! I've noticed now that when she barks and I look at her and say NO she wags her tail and barks more! If I ignore it for awhile and don't look at her, she'll go find a toy to play with! __________________ Lindsey and Layla, Lucy, and Kash