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08-30-2014, 04:54 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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| Please help us! Aggressive to new puppy (long!) I've posted several times about my yorkies aggression. Last December I called the trainers bark busters to help us. It helped a bit, but she still would be aggressive. The trainer is coming back on Tuesday, but I don't even think he will put her and the puppy in the same room! I emailed him immediately after getting our new dog once Sadie (my Yorkie) attacked her. I've grown up with goldens my entire life, and 5 years ago I got Sadie. We still have a golden and we have a golden puppy now. The puppy is great and she doesn't jump on her or instigate fights. I'm not one to give away a dog- in fact I completely judge and hate anyone who does! I asked the trainer what to do until he comes and he said keep them separated. Well, let's be honest. That's not realistic. Has anyone had ANY success at getting their dog to stop attacking? She lunges and growls and makes the worst noises. She's never made anyone bleed... She is great with the dogs she lives with, so that's why I thought her and the puppy would be ok eventually but I need them to hurry up and get along because I can't stand feeling this way. I hate seeing Sadie this way. I'm starting to feel like it's not fair to either dog and I feel that Sadie might be happier being an only dog which is really not an option. We are asserting our dominance etc but nothing seems to work, and if it does it's never permanent. - please don't comment saying why did you get a puppy or that I'm horrible for saying I want to give my dog away because I don't want to give my dog away and that's why I'm posting! |
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08-31-2014, 08:33 AM | #2 |
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| Hello I am not a trainer but posting here to bump it up in hopes someone more knowledgeable will help. We recently had visitors who brought their dog which would attack ours if she went near her food, water, toys or parents. Not a fun experience so we had to keep both dogs apart except for walks. I have read things like allowing the non aggressor to eat first, go in the door first etc. but I don't know the details. Looking forward to hearing what others have to say. |
09-01-2014, 03:46 AM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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| Thank you! I hope someone can help. We do have good times with them all together- at the beach yesterday the puppy wanted to play with her and she gave a little warning growling and that was it. But this morning again out of no where she attacked her. I almost always stop them from making contact... She is completely ignoring everything that used to work to stop her. Bark busters taught us to growl (seriously we look stupid) and to use these pillow things that jungle... But nothing is working now. |
09-01-2014, 06:41 AM | #4 |
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| I wish I could be of more help (other than bumping you up). I think in the meantime taking them for walks together (on leash) as much as possible, creating a pac is a thought. Also be sure your Yorkie understands the command "leave it" and use that when she even looks at the pup in an aggressive way. I wish you the best. It's a tough situation, I know you love both of your dogs. |
09-01-2014, 07:31 AM | #5 | |
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If you are not living on your own, have your partner walk with the puppy and you walk with Sadie. Any aggression on Sadies part is immediately corrected. Start the program Nothing in LIfe is free for Sadie. She earns every treat, every morsel of food. You can also try umblical cord leashing with Sadie. That is one end of the leash is tied around your waist, and you go about your day with her. If the puppy comes up and Sadie lashes out correct her. With multiple dogs owners need to be ready for multiple solutions as not every introduction of a new pack member goes smoothly. Let us know how it goes with your trainer Tues.
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09-03-2014, 06:15 AM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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| So we've been through a lot this past long weekend- our sweet 13 year old golden took a turn for the worst and had to be out down... I didn't want to deal with the trainer yesterday but I knew it ha to be done. Wiped my tears and pulled it together. We practiced the doorbell routine with her shortly before he got there- at which point she got it together and was very submissive but also terrified and shaking... I hates seeing her that way but I think she's afraid of the trainer. Long story short he told us to use a spray bottle, and to not pull Sadie off the puppy. We haven't had any incidents since yesterday afternoon. It's been great. So hopefully it sticks. |
09-03-2014, 06:43 AM | #7 | |
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It is difficult to give advice without seeing the dogs interact, I do have a comment, and that is to be (which I am sure that you are), very present when you allow the two to interact. And do be ready to intervene. I am a large dog owner (with a BRT puppy who is currently 9 months old and about 75lbs or so), and my concern is for your Yorkie not getting injured. Quite frankly I correct my Yorkies aggression to my large dogs, every single time that it is warranted. Why? Because he needs to know he can't act that way out and about with strange large dogs. Unfortunately and I am only supposing this, the size differential is so huge my biggies felt no need to discipline him when he was a puppy and acting out. Even now they don't discipline him. But one swipe of a large paw could break a leg or a back I am just wondering what is the spray bottle to be used for? And when and how? I also do not walk by myself a large and a small dog together. I know this might seem like a bit of an overkill, but all you need is one bad experience and hopefully you learn a lesson with no-one getting injured. I do not allow my Yorkie out free in our backyard with our puppy BRT. She has a bit of a prey drive, and the chase is quite frankly dangerous to Razzle our Yorkie. BAll games etc, are done either one on one, or the two Blackies together. It is only in swimming will all three be out together in the water, and that is only if hubby is with me. I am sorry for the ramble afield as it were. Dog aggression is not an easy behaviour to deal with. If your Yorkie is afaird of the trainer, I do wonder why? Has Sadie been well socialized to strange ppl and dogs? If yes, then doubly I would wonder why Sadie is afaird of the trainer.
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09-09-2014, 06:04 PM | #8 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada
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The spray bottle is just a distraction tool I believe- we initially were to use these bags similar to a bag of pennies and growl in order to correct bad behaviour. Not only do we look stupid (we still growl like idiots) but I think the bags scare her. We are supposed to use the spray bottle to spray Sadie if she is attacking Rory. So what we would do is this: Sadie is getting her "I'm gonna attack you" body language. We growl and clap our hands to distract her. Now she walks away from the puppy without attacking. Before and sometimes now she will attack- never a serious fight but noisy for sure. That is when we are supposed to spray Sadie anywhere but the head/face to distract her. That way Sadie stops attacking the puppy "on her own" rather than us pulling them apart which makes it worse. It works for sure and now with less attacks she is so much better. We have another golden and Sadie is great with her. I know they will be ok eventually. My boyfriend and I are usually dealing with it together. We go to the park and we are both there and they all play and run. We also went to the beach and they were almost playing together! Sadie isn't a player, so I think it's a step in the right direction. Sorry this is so long! | |
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