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01-09-2014, 02:12 PM | #1 |
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| How long do you continue training the same trick? My puppy knows how to sit but when it comes to "down" she only wants to do it if I put my hand on the floor. How long are you suppose to stay on the same trick before you move on to another one? I hold a tiny piece of banana and if she does the trick I give the banana to her, but with "down" I feel as if all she isn't understanding the word at all unless I show her. We've been doing this trick for a week. I just want to know if I'm training her the right way?
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01-09-2014, 09:19 PM | #2 |
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| Hopefully some of the more advanced trainers will chime in, but I don't think it is a bad thing to use hand signals. I believe they are equally important as verbal commands. Ideally a dog will respond to each. Advanced training may be to have her running in an enclosed yard and calling out the command to stop, and go down. I often use the hand signals when we train in the house for fun, but Max has obeyed the verbal command "down" in emergency situations. I also modify my voice for certain commands. I say down in a deep, descending voice. Dowwwwn. I have to admit, in the emergency situations, I screamed the command in fear. Probably not recommended, but my boys seem to respond to my fear. I read a story of a dog rescue on a highway where the woman gave hand signals to help the dogs navigate safely through the noisy traffic to the side of the road.
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01-10-2014, 06:33 AM | #3 |
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| You continue with the same trick or command until the dog understands the commands and complies with or without a treat without fail. It can take 500 plus repetitions for the dog to fully understand. If the dog doesn't understand the command be sure you are giving the command the same way each time. Remember dogs communicate primarily via body language. Always make training sessions fun and stress free for both of you. |
01-10-2014, 09:07 AM | #4 |
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| Jackson picks up on tricks very quickly; he always has. Some take much longer. Honestly, 90% of the tricks that Jackson knows are hand signals. I honestly don't think he listens to the word I am saying along with the hand signal, except for sit, down and stay. I would like to work more on verbal commands though. I do try to fade out luring though but a hand signal is not a bad thing. This is an old video, and he has more stuff now, but I do almost all of this with some kind of hand signal:
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01-10-2014, 09:10 AM | #5 |
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| Oh and I work on multiple tricks at a time. For example, it took him about 4 days (of 15 min sessions) to learn how to limp (holding up his right front foot and walking). In those 4 days, he also learned how to "say your prayers". He picked up on that trick quicker. So while we were still practicing limp, he learned a new trick in between.
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01-16-2014, 01:51 PM | #6 |
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| I'm trying to teach Enzo the lie down command too! I was just about to start a thread asking for help! I can't get him to catch on! I've googled it and try and do what they say to do, but he looks around like "Wtf" is she asking me to do? Any tips or tricks to help? He caught on to most of the other commands almost within a day, this one I/he can't master
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01-16-2014, 02:05 PM | #7 |
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| What does he do when you give the hand signal and say "Down"? If you keep at it long enough and keep putting the treat down on the ground in front of him but not letting him have it until he lies down to try to get it from your fist when nothing else has worked, he will eventually lie down to work at your fist. That's when you say, "Good boy!" and let him have his treat immediately. Then repeat the same thing another time or two and move on, let him go outside or start really playing with him and celebrating the training session by tossing a ball for him or hand-playing with him, running around clapping your hands, things like that to celebrate the end of the training session and keep it all upbeat. Once or twice I have gently taken the dogs front legs and carefully slid them forward until the dog slowly lays down and immediately told him "Good Boy!" and treated him but only very rarely as I want the dog to actively lower himself and eventually get the idea that down means he does what it takes himself to life down with his paws out in front of him. If you sit on the floor in front of him or just to the side and keep that treat on the floor long enough in your closed fist, he should try many ways to get to it but finally lie down to work on getting it from you so keep up the trying however long it takes and he will slowly begin to understand that only making himself lie down on the floor will bring him his much-desired treat - and your praise. I would keep training that command two or three times in a row two or three times daily each day until he easily and immediately lays down as soon as you give the command and does it 99% of the time. The great secret to training is to only do a single command two or three times in the row as most small dogs quickly tire of doing a single trick and find it dull as dishwater to repeat it a fourth or fifth time. Then move on and train another easy trick two or three times and so on but keep each session at no longer than five minutes.
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01-17-2014, 11:27 AM | #8 | |
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Also if you can't get Enzo to lie down at all, sit on the floor and bend your knees so you can make a "tunnel" for him just enough for him to go through it. Then move the treat under and he should follow.. And end up laying down! That's how I started for the first 2 days and she learned like that at first.
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