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"YOU are the problem, NOT your dog!" I love Zak George and his philosophies on dog training. He hosted Animal Planet's show 'Superfetch' but he's got a new one in the works. He's been on YouTube for years, doing blogs, plus training videos. But I've definitely adapted into his training methods and always love what he has to say. He actually has 3 different youtube channels (his main one is YouTube - zakgeorge21's Channel) but he has this new 'secret' channel that he posts daily. Anyways, thought I'd share his video from today - I love it: |
LOL, love it!!!! I can think of so many times I could have used that video to post on someone's thread. They always act like the dog is some alien who doing something out of vengeance. |
:thumbup: What a great video. When Teddy doesn't listen to me I end up getting frustrated with myself...:) |
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Amen! Thank you! I've never seen Zack George before but I can tell you he is one VERY SMART young man! Like he takes "no brainers" and shoves them right back in our face in a humerous way! After watching him for two minutes, I think I am in :love: |
What would happen if we substituted BABY/TODDLER/YOUNG CHILD for DOG :D then parents would have to be accountable for "training/teaching" their children to behave. There is nothing that aggravates me more than to see young children acting like BRATS in public! Britster, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for introducing me to Zak! |
Very good points. |
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I would recommend going through and watching a bunch of his videos. Very useful info. :) YouTube - zakgeorge's Channel YouTube - zakgeorge21's Channel YouTube - SecretZakVids's Channel |
awesome video |
Awesome. "Uh, you are a HUMAN BEING!" |
I like his view point on most things but go watch again what he does with his own dog. Did you catch it??? That is extremly pushy rude behaviour in a dog that he does not deal with..... dog coming in, getting in his face and demands attention and him showing affection without him asking for a behaviour first.... who is in control there??? Not a wrong thing in a well trained dog but if he is to be teaching good behaviour to those of us unkonwing humans, then he needs to ask for a sit or down or skill before he interacts with the dog. Teach by example. All things good are earned. No I am not saying affection is wrong or that he did something overly incorrect but when teaching you teach what it should be in public and to your class at all time in view of that class or client. Outside of that if you wish to slack off you can but those little watching learning eyes see and follow more the action then learning by words. JL |
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Yorkiemother, I completely disagree with you. The dog wanted attention, and he/she asked for it in a playful yet non-overbearing way. I don't make my boy sit, dance, or do some trick for every pat, cuddle, hug, or kiss. Maybe it's a matter of preference. I have taught Kaji to get my attention in a similar manner when he needs something. I figured, how else will I know Kaji is hungry, needs to go potty, or wants my attention? Kaji isn't in my face about it, but he's also way smaller than the dog Zack has, which might make it look worse than it actually is. The dog is bigger than our yorkies so the nudge, nuzzle looks worse than it really is. |
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But his dogs are *highly* trained. They are competition frisbee dogs, and if you ever watch his training videos, he can say "Nova, go lay down. I'm working with Venus right now" and Nova will go off and lay down until told to come over. I really don't believe he's doing anything wrong and I totally agree with DvlshAngel^^. And he has never ever preached or taught that a dog should have to obey a command first before receiving affection. He believes in relationship-based training, and basically for the *most* part, TEACHING a dog like you would a child. If my child came up to me and wanted a hug, I would not say 'You have to do the dishes first. THEN you can get a hug!' That'd be ridiculous. And eventually the child would probably think it's not even worth it to go over and ask for affection. |
Of course you disagree with me as it came out my fingers and your going to balk. NIFIF is not a Ceser thing at all never has been. When you talk to me you are talking to someone that has worked with Human childern for 27 years and made the connetion between human kids and fur kids like pushing 8 years ago. Nice to see you come to the table on that. What I am saying is think for yourself... do not go blindly along... going he is wonrdeful, he is not wrong, he is so perfect... allow him to be human, allow him to learn. Allow you to learn. Take the best of what works from him and others gentle sources and grow with the trainer you are learning with. See his faults learn from them. see his good side learn from that and do not blindly just take it in without questioning any or all of what he does. think it through as to if I do that what possible fall out for my dogs or other dogs could there be. fallout can be both postive or negative. JL |
Also would like to add that he is overly simplified things some what.... yes for most dogs it is your problem not your dogs the but and it is big but when the dog has chemical or medical reasons to be the way he is whether it is genetic or hard wired do to poor soical skills. sometimes heaven and earth can not make things right no matter what you do. Do not blame, train goes for the dogs and the owners coming to you to learn to do better. Your fault is blaming the owner not a place to learn form and so Ceser. JL |
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This pretty much sums up how I feel and what I believe. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...ods-views.html |
Brittany, I just want to say, I do think you think for yourself. You seem to investigate lots of different methods, and you are continually adapting to what you think works for you and Jackson. You actively work with Jackson training him in agility and other things, and you share with this forum what has worked for you and Jackson. Keep up the good work, and never feel like you know it all, because that's when YOU will stop learning. |
I do not make my dogs sit and wait for permission to get on my lap before giving them affection. But I do expect them to listen when I tell them to get down. And for the most part they do. They do not growl or protest if I put them off my lap. Sometimes I have to do it 2 or 3 times before they get the message, but eventually they stay off. Cesar Milan was helping people with PROBLEM dogs. Dogs that had taken over the house. So his methods of no talk no touch no eye contact, was designed to correct the problem and get the dog on the right track. If your dog is not a problem then it's OK to give affection without asking them to do something first. I do make mine wait when I set the food down before they can eat. |
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I do this as well. If I want Jackson to get down, I will tell him down, and he listens. He's never growled at me for ANY reason actually, and I think that's because he respects me *and* I respect him. |
I think what Zak does that makes a lot of people uncomfortable is that he points out that the HUMAN is accountable and responsible for the training. Making excuses for the dog is conterproductive. This is especially true with animals that come into our lives with "baggage". We can do nothing about what happened in the past and it is truly unfair to make excuses for them -- that mentality limits the animals ability to overcome and limits our ability as the animal's trainer. Same is true with people -- we take what life has thrown in our face and made choices -- we choose to overcome or we choose to be a victim. |
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I took Zak to mean that you are always responsible for your dog's behavior, because as a human being you have so many more resources to control the situation. I am sure that there are many dogs out there who, unattended, will eat cat poop or get into the garbage no matter what. If you cannot TRAIN the problem away, you have to MANAGE it - make the litter box and garbage can inaccessible, etc. |
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