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09-18-2010, 10:47 AM | #16 |
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| I would never use a shock collar on anything!!
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09-18-2010, 11:24 AM | #17 |
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| The problem is, she is spoiled and she has taken on the roll as pack leader. Invest in Cesar Milan's tapes and books and learn how to become the pack leader. She sees you as HER poperty rather than she being YOUR property. A few exercises to get you started. When you put her food bowl down, do not let her eat the food until you tell her that she can. Set the bowl down and guard it from her until she backs off. I use the command WAIT. If they come toward the bowl, I push them back and say WAIT. when they stop trying to get it, I say OK and move away. Another exercise. Walk toward her and make her back up, blocking her from getting around you. Take toys away from her, then give them back when she stops trying to grab them. Take her bowl away while she is eating and give it back when she is being nice. Always eat first, and then feed her. You can even allow her to lick your plate, when you are finished, so she learns that you eat first. Pack leaders always eat first. Find a new vet. I cannot believe that any vet would think it is OK to use a shock collar on a small breed dog. |
09-19-2010, 04:12 PM | #18 |
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| [QUOTE=ladyjane;3274030]Sounds like the vet needs a shock collar so he/she can be "trained" not to give such advice. Great answer!!!
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09-20-2010, 01:37 PM | #19 |
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09-20-2010, 05:26 PM | #20 | |
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09-20-2010, 07:39 PM | #21 |
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| I bought the "Bark Repellent" (hand held thing that emits a sound in a dog's hearing range I read about here on YT) Stopped the neighbor dogs from barking and helps some with my Yorkies; however, it's clear this thing hurts their ears (some) so I suppose it's no different from a shock collar (hurt neck/hurt ears???, thus I try not to use it often) --- though I recently met someone with a Min Pin with a "shock collar" and when I asked if that hurt them, they said theirs doesn't deliver a "shock" rather it just vibrates which stops them from barking. I don't know, we're working on the positive training right now (though it hasn't been that successful thus far) Kendra |
09-21-2010, 07:50 AM | #22 |
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| I am not an advocate of any kind of repellant or shock collar. I think a dog learns better when they have a positive experience to something rather than a negative experience. JeanieK gives some good advice, and here is some more. Have children give her treats (very small, enough to eat in one bite only). They don't have to give them from their hands, they can toss the treats in your dog's direction. She will eventually see them as good things as they come near her. When she snaps at the other dogs, remove her from the room (preferably on leash) and only bring her back when she has calmed down. Each time she snaps, she has to leave. She only gets to come back and stay there when she is behaving herself. If you're worried about her barking during walks, when you see someone/something approaching that she will bark at, get her attention by using treats and commands like "sit". Have her work her brain so she is too busy to bark at the object or person. Hiring a positive reinforcement trainer would be a great idea for you (ask them about their methods before you pay them). Negative reinforcement can create a more unconfident dog, and a shock collar is negative reinforcement (so is a spray collar and a bark repellant). Your dog needs to be socialized more, which is why you're having the problems. You've missed the best time to do it (when she was a puppy) but you can still do so. Hitting her or shocking her for her mistakes is wrong. You failed as her owner in teaching her proper doggie etiquette. Sorry to be harsh, but it's the honest truth. And, as others have said, find a new vet.
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09-23-2010, 03:54 AM | #23 |
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| Not use a shock collar! I think thats cruel, there are ways to make this proplem dissapear without shock collars. I like to use the Cesar Milan training ways, I use them on my yorkie, and they work really well. Go to a good dog trainer , get private lessons with her at first then go to lessons where there are other dogs later. A good vet does not reccomand a shock collar, they reccomand a good dog trainer for you and your yorkie!
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09-23-2010, 04:04 AM | #24 |
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| Before you go to your parents who have her mom and dad (i think you said they were your parents?) , excercise her well so she is really really tired, more likely that she doesnt attack her parents if she's really tired. When you get to their house, start by saying good things to her, say like ''good girl!'' and something like that , just say one ''NO!'' when shes showing teeths or anything like that, then right away when she stops doing that , stops showing that she doenst like the dogs, then again say to her like ''good girl'' and something like that, always do that, and have her favorite food with you and give her a treat when shes not acting bad That has worked for me always, then just be patience ! I have been getting a yorkie girl for sleepovers sometimes, i was doggysitting her for 1 and a half month this summer, she HATES other dogs but when i did this she started to be ok with them! instead of growling at them and showing teeths she did nothing at all, then later she started playing with them, it didnt take long for her to learn that. Good luck!
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09-23-2010, 04:06 AM | #25 |
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| also, i reccomand that you have a muzzle on her at first, for the other dogs safety, then when you think she's ready take it off
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09-24-2010, 03:21 AM | #26 |
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| A Shock collar? Yikes! Dude, don't do that. If the dog isn't behaving now, do you think he/she will knowing you put that dreaded collar on him/her? |
09-26-2010, 09:46 AM | #27 |
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| I would not use the shock collar. Why would your vet say that? Seems he would recommend a trainer. |
09-26-2010, 11:16 AM | #28 |
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| No shock collar, and no classes (for now). You need a good, certified trainer for one-on-one training. Search at Association of Pet Dog Trainers - Dog Training Resources for a certified trainer. They will use positive reinforcement to desensitize her to other dogs and children. You may never get to where you'd feel comfortable leaving her unsupervised with small children, but she can learn to turn to you for instruction and rewards for ignoring them. I'd also agree that she should be spayed, and that you need a new vet! I had a dog-aggressive Kerry Blue Terrier (35 pounds) who's now crossed the Rainbow Bridge, but I know from that experience that my fear when other dogs approached (fear because I'd gotten stitches from breaking up dog fights) got transferred down the leash and greatly increased her aggressive response when she saw other dogs. So be aware that your reaction will also affect her reaction. But you need a trainer, quickly. |
09-26-2010, 12:23 PM | #29 |
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| The OP hasn't been back on since the day of the post. I hope he didn't start using the shock collar!
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