My 1.5 year old male yorkie will not potty train! - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

rebeccag · 05-05-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ggh113

Thanks for responding!

He has an small opening between the two...I'd hoped he'd get the idea since his potty papers were on the other side. Since it's close to my bedroom, I'd hoped I would hear him at night - he either makes no noise or I"m a deeper sleeper than I thought!

Does he have room to move around where he sleeps? He should have room only to sleep and maybe keeping his water and food close by....I mean in the den....

jeanm1963 · 05-05-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RLC12345678

I, personally, have met very few people who have had potty training success with pee pads. He is probably confused on where he is actually supposed to go to the bathroom since you leave a pee pad down but also take him out frequently. You can't blame him for tearing up the pee pad . . . he probably thinks it's a toy!

I have 5 dogs and I truly believe that I have perfected the art of potty training. I have potty trained each and every one of my dogs by crate training and following this schedule:

http://www.darnfar.com/Dog%20Tra...ng_a_puppy.htm

The key is to getting a crate that is only big enough for them to stand up, turn around, and lay down. When they are laying down, the whole floor of the crate should be covered by their body. If you buy the smallest crate and it is still too big, you can put a box in the back of it. That is how I potty trained all of my dogs and they were all potty trained within a month. After they are potty trained, you can take the box out of the crate or buy a bigger crate that is more comfortable but it is essential to have the proper size crate while crate training/potty training.

I have a question, I do not use a crate however Laci does not go in the house, I take her out every 2-3 hours , only 2 accidents in the last month and honestly both were my fault... but how do you teach your dog to tell you they have to potty?? I just kind of keep a schedule since I am able to be home all day.. I know she poops first thing in the Am and at night about 9 pm its always the same time and same place...

I just want to teach her to be able to tell me instead of me telling her

Mel-Kovy · 06-09-2009, 12:17 PM

I have a 9 months yorkie who is not housebroken yet..
I used the crate since I got him at 3 months, but mine does his business in his crate, I try the smaller crate and still does in it, and steps in his poop and everything, tired of washing my dog every day, I decided to leave him the house and now he still does inside the house when I'm at work. At lest I don't have to wash him and the poop, just the poop, but I am desperate also! He never does in the house when I'm there, but as soon as I leave the house, he's doing his business inside!! Even if I leave for 15 minutes and come back, He did something, and he did it outside before I leave! It's as if he's doing it on purpose... Could it be because I get mad at him when he does inside, and now he thinks that by doing inside he will get my attention????????????

I guess I have to be patient, but I tried everything..

ggh113 · 06-09-2009, 12:49 PM

"Does he have room to move around where he sleeps? He should have room only to sleep and maybe keeping his water and food close by....I mean in the den...."

Room in sleeping area just for the bed; potty side is same size. Really no room for food/water and he upsets anyway! I'm currently adjusting his feeding times. Better, but not home free yet!

goofypup · 06-09-2009, 12:54 PM

My boy is now 2yrs. & 4 mos. old now. Let me tell you I had a hell of a time trying to train him. I did everything by the book, out every half hour, lots of praise and treats, crate training, ...etc. You name it, I did it. But this little guy just couldn't quite get it right. He would go for about a 2 weeks, fine... then bam!...back to square one. But through many frustations, tears, vet visits, tests....we finally got through it, and yes he finally got it. So what I'm trying to say is..have patience... he will be potty trained when and only when he truly understands....It took us 2 yrs...but he his finally figured it out!!

ggh113 · 06-09-2009, 01:00 PM

Thanks! It's comforting to know I don't have the ONLY stubborn (loveable!) puppy! LOL

Lady Amethyst · 06-09-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ggh113

Thanks! It's comforting to know I don't have the ONLY stubborn (loveable!) puppy! LOL

Nope, you don't..lol! My Neko was the same way from the time we got him. He was potty trainned to go outside, yet he'd do well for a week and then an accident in the house. I read a post here about "submissive urnation" and boy didn't this hit it right on the head for me. My Neko will also coward and urinate in the carpet if you raise your voice (meaning telling him to do something he doesn't want to and/or you scare him). There's many reasons for accidents and not just stubborn or hard to house break. I say just "Hold On", continue working with your baby and by all means, keep checking back here. They have alot of "HELPFUL" information!! =)

Lady Amethyst · 06-09-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanm1963

I have a question, I do not use a crate however Laci does not go in the house, I take her out every 2-3 hours , only 2 accidents in the last month and honestly both were my fault... but how do you teach your dog to tell you they have to potty?? I just kind of keep a schedule since I am able to be home all day.. I know she poops first thing in the Am and at night about 9 pm its always the same time and same place...

I just want to teach her to be able to tell me instead of me telling her

Ya know...I'd love to keep reading here to find out the answer to this one. I do the same as you. Just kinda keep an eye on my Neko and keep an eye on the time I took him last to see when he has to go. They are fairly smart. He will jump on me and continue to until I stand and follow him. He leads me to things that he wants. Some how getting him to do the same when he wants to go outside would be nice. He does it from time to time, but not often enough to not have accidents. He's not a barker either! Well, I read a post here about using a bell. I bought the bell about a week ago and attached it to the back door. Every time Neko has to go out/we take him out that is, we RING THE BELL!! Saying "Outside/Potty?" Then take him out. I really don't think he's got the idea yet, but it's only been a week. I even use his little paw to tap the bell and say "outside/potty" then open the door and take him out. So we will continue because I've heard alot of people say that it works!

rebeccag · 06-12-2009, 04:59 AM

Well, it’s always risky to guess about a situation without knowing all the details, but to me it seems that it’s time to think outside the box… um, crate. Here are some thoughts…
Many problems of this sort can be handled by paying a lot more attention to the puppy’s bathroom needs. You are clearly already being very conscientious but if you take your attention to an even more intense level for a few days or weeks, you may be able to solve the problem completely.
On the weekends and during the night, you can get an idea of just how long the puppy can hold it. Different breeds mature at different rates, and individual dogs will vary too. We once had an Australian Shepherd pup who could hold it all night from the first night we got him, at 9 weeks (gloat), but that is unusual.
Say you discover that your little pup can go about 4 hours. (Review my potty training puppies page here for a suggested routine.) That means you’ll do best if someone can come in once during the time all your family is gone. This would be nice for the puppy anyway, since he is likely pretty lonely. A trusted neighbor, a paid pet-sitter or dog walker, or one of those friends who is telling you not to use an X-pen are all possibilities. They would take him out for a chance to pee or poop, play with him for a few minutes or longer, and perhaps take a pre-stuffed Kong out of your freezer to coax him back into his crate before they leave.
This also means that a middle of the night potty stop outing should take place. Set an alarm clock if you are heavy sleepers.
Seems to me that what you want is to break the habit of using the crate for a bathroom as quickly as you can. I personally would consider combining the crate with an X-Pen, and putting newspapers down in the pen. If the dog is tiny relative to the crate, maybe you can define two spaces in it, but I am guessing this is not the case from your description. Or if you happen to have a mudroom or other small and totally puppy-proof space (or can invent one somewhere in your home), you could put papers down in it and have the crate in there with the door open.
If you begin to think this is going on longer than it should (of course, it already feels like that!), then be sure to consult your veterinarian. It all sounds pretty normal so far, though.
So in a nutshell, I’m suggesting closer management and experimenting more with the size of his space. Best wishes!

ggh113 · 06-13-2009, 04:59 PM

We divided an enclosure down the middle with a small opening between bed area and newspapered area. His bed area is just large enough to hold the bottom of his crate - the potty area is the same size. (Hope this makes a little sense!) He 'gets' it ... sometimes.

angelmdevilm · 06-14-2009, 09:08 AM

Choco was potty trained... or I thought he was until recently he started pooing and peeing in my room. He used to go to the bathroom to use the pee pad. Since I am not able to take him out very frequently to do his business, he was "trained" to use my bathroom where the pee pad was. He has been that way since just recently. He is right now a year and 3 months old. And I have no idea what's wrong. I am going to get him neutered in 3 days. I hope that will help him.....

Any advice?
What punishment do you give your yorkies when they do make a mistake?
I make him sniff the place he made a mess and say "No" a couple of times. He puts his ears down and look guilty, but he'll repeat the behavior anyways... I really don't know what to do. Please help

raggityann · 06-15-2009, 07:54 AM

My first 2 rescue yorkies never went in the house Boomer still doesnt. However i recently rescued 3-one has a home so i have 2 one just had puppies the other 1 1/2 male is getting neutered although the hopes of him stopping now marking his territory is minimal. habit! The both must have been crated ALOT they too think the carpet is free for all potty place! UGH. do i really want to keep one of her puppies at the same time trying to train these 2. Cody the 1 1/2 yr old wasnt to stay here but have to try to break him so he has a better chance of a good home. UGH I am tired of cleaning carpet! and I am home all day! Lilly the mom... is in a doggie playyard in the house with her pups... she can climb out? of the pen so we cant shut the door to it she goes nuts trying to get back in to her babies.
HELP.

blondiegirl · 06-18-2019, 06:30 PM

I have the same problem with my 1 year old male. He tears the disposable pads up, so I started using the washable ones. He knows what they are for and many times will use them, but just as many times he'll go whoever he wants. When i let him outside, I have to chase him off the porch. He doesn't particularly like going out in the yard. I tried the crate and when he indicated he needed to go, I would take him outside, and wait sometimes as long as 15 minutes and he still wouldn't go, but before I could get him back in the crate, he would pee in the floor. I guess my mistake is not carrying him in from outside and putting him back in the crate and trying again later. It is very frustrating.

Bicky2809 · 06-28-2019, 06:52 PM

I guess I am one of the lucky people who has had success with pee pads

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How I did it was to first keep my baby boy on a feeding schedule so I had a good idea of when he would need to potty. After he ate, I would place him in a pen that was lined with pee pads and when he pottied he would get heaps of praise and treats and I would let him out to play. I would leave the pen open for him during the day so he could still access the pee pads whenever but I would lock him in after eating because I knew he would need to go.
Over time, I kept taking away the pee pads until there was just two in a corner and he would still keep going on them. Eventually I got rid of the pen and he would go to his corner to potty whenever he needed to. My baby boy was completely potty trained by 10 months and he has never had an accident since (he's now 2)

P.S. I don't know if this helped with his training, but I always made sure that he knew I was the boss; he always got fed after I ate my meal first, even when playing with toys, if I take them away he knows to sit and let me take them. I think because Yorkies are so independent and strong willed if they don't see you as the boss they will just ignore you haha.

06-09-2009, 12:17 PM	#18
Mel-Kovy YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 3	I understand!! I have a 9 months yorkie who is not housebroken yet.. I used the crate since I got him at 3 months, but mine does his business in his crate, I try the smaller crate and still does in it, and steps in his poop and everything, tired of washing my dog every day, I decided to leave him the house and now he still does inside the house when I'm at work. At lest I don't have to wash him and the poop, just the poop, but I am desperate also! He never does in the house when I'm there, but as soon as I leave the house, he's doing his business inside!! Even if I leave for 15 minutes and come back, He did something, and he did it outside before I leave! It's as if he's doing it on purpose... Could it be because I get mad at him when he does inside, and now he thinks that by doing inside he will get my attention???????????? I guess I have to be patient, but I tried everything..

06-09-2009, 12:54 PM	#20
goofypup Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 128	My boy is now 2yrs. & 4 mos. old now. Let me tell you I had a hell of a time trying to train him. I did everything by the book, out every half hour, lots of praise and treats, crate training, ...etc. You name it, I did it. But this little guy just couldn't quite get it right. He would go for about a 2 weeks, fine... then bam!...back to square one. But through many frustations, tears, vet visits, tests....we finally got through it, and yes he finally got it. So what I'm trying to say is..have patience... he will be potty trained when and only when he truly understands....It took us 2 yrs...but he his finally figured it out!! __________________ Goofypup mom to Casey &Riley

06-12-2009, 04:59 AM	#24
rebeccag Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,183 Blog Entries: 2	I found this on: training-dogs.com Well, it’s always risky to guess about a situation without knowing all the details, but to me it seems that it’s time to think outside the box… um, crate. Here are some thoughts… Many problems of this sort can be handled by paying a lot more attention to the puppy’s bathroom needs. You are clearly already being very conscientious but if you take your attention to an even more intense level for a few days or weeks, you may be able to solve the problem completely. On the weekends and during the night, you can get an idea of just how long the puppy can hold it. Different breeds mature at different rates, and individual dogs will vary too. We once had an Australian Shepherd pup who could hold it all night from the first night we got him, at 9 weeks (gloat), but that is unusual. Say you discover that your little pup can go about 4 hours. (Review my potty training puppies page here for a suggested routine.) That means you’ll do best if someone can come in once during the time all your family is gone. This would be nice for the puppy anyway, since he is likely pretty lonely. A trusted neighbor, a paid pet-sitter or dog walker, or one of those friends who is telling you not to use an X-pen are all possibilities. They would take him out for a chance to pee or poop, play with him for a few minutes or longer, and perhaps take a pre-stuffed Kong out of your freezer to coax him back into his crate before they leave. This also means that a middle of the night potty stop outing should take place. Set an alarm clock if you are heavy sleepers. Seems to me that what you want is to break the habit of using the crate for a bathroom as quickly as you can. I personally would consider combining the crate with an X-Pen, and putting newspapers down in the pen. If the dog is tiny relative to the crate, maybe you can define two spaces in it, but I am guessing this is not the case from your description. Or if you happen to have a mudroom or other small and totally puppy-proof space (or can invent one somewhere in your home), you could put papers down in it and have the crate in there with the door open. If you begin to think this is going on longer than it should (of course, it already feels like that!), then be sure to consult your veterinarian. It all sounds pretty normal so far, though. So in a nutshell, I’m suggesting closer management and experimenting more with the size of his space. Best wishes! __________________ I'm hoping God helps me be the person my dogs think I am.... Rebecca , Jonah & Ksena

06-14-2009, 09:08 AM	#26
angelmdevilm Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CA Posts: 96	Choco was potty trained... or I thought he was until recently he started pooing and peeing in my room. He used to go to the bathroom to use the pee pad. Since I am not able to take him out very frequently to do his business, he was "trained" to use my bathroom where the pee pad was. He has been that way since just recently. He is right now a year and 3 months old. And I have no idea what's wrong. I am going to get him neutered in 3 days. I hope that will help him..... Any advice? What punishment do you give your yorkies when they do make a mistake? I make him sniff the place he made a mess and say "No" a couple of times. He puts his ears down and look guilty, but he'll repeat the behavior anyways... I really don't know what to do. Please help __________________ For those with DOGSTER!!! ---->> Add CHOCO as your friend =) Look for him with his dogster id: 797255

06-15-2009, 07:54 AM	#27
raggityann Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: georgia Posts: 15	help My first 2 rescue yorkies never went in the house Boomer still doesnt. However i recently rescued 3-one has a home so i have 2 one just had puppies the other 1 1/2 male is getting neutered although the hopes of him stopping now marking his territory is minimal. habit! The both must have been crated ALOT they too think the carpet is free for all potty place! UGH. do i really want to keep one of her puppies at the same time trying to train these 2. Cody the 1 1/2 yr old wasnt to stay here but have to try to break him so he has a better chance of a good home. UGH I am tired of cleaning carpet! and I am home all day! Lilly the mom... is in a doggie playyard in the house with her pups... she can climb out? of the pen so we cant shut the door to it she goes nuts trying to get back in to her babies. HELP.

06-09-2009, 12:49 PM	#19
ggh113 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milesburg, PA USA Posts: 18	"Does he have room to move around where he sleeps? He should have room only to sleep and maybe keeping his water and food close by....I mean in the den...." Room in sleeping area just for the bed; potty side is same size. Really no room for food/water and he upsets anyway! I'm currently adjusting his feeding times. Better, but not home free yet!

06-09-2009, 01:00 PM	#21
ggh113 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milesburg, PA USA Posts: 18	Thanks! It's comforting to know I don't have the ONLY stubborn (loveable!) puppy! LOL

06-13-2009, 04:59 PM	#25
ggh113 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milesburg, PA USA Posts: 18	We divided an enclosure down the middle with a small opening between bed area and newspapered area. His bed area is just large enough to hold the bottom of his crate - the potty area is the same size. (Hope this makes a little sense!) He 'gets' it ... sometimes.

06-18-2019, 06:30 PM	#28
blondiegirl YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Porter Posts: 2	I have the same problem with my 1 year old male. He tears the disposable pads up, so I started using the washable ones. He knows what they are for and many times will use them, but just as many times he'll go whoever he wants. When i let him outside, I have to chase him off the porch. He doesn't particularly like going out in the yard. I tried the crate and when he indicated he needed to go, I would take him outside, and wait sometimes as long as 15 minutes and he still wouldn't go, but before I could get him back in the crate, he would pee in the floor. I guess my mistake is not carrying him in from outside and putting him back in the crate and trying again later. It is very frustrating.

06-28-2019, 06:52 PM	#29
Bicky2809 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Queensland Posts: 5	I guess I am one of the lucky people who has had success with pee pads. How I did it was to first keep my baby boy on a feeding schedule so I had a good idea of when he would need to potty. After he ate, I would place him in a pen that was lined with pee pads and when he pottied he would get heaps of praise and treats and I would let him out to play. I would leave the pen open for him during the day so he could still access the pee pads whenever but I would lock him in after eating because I knew he would need to go. Over time, I kept taking away the pee pads until there was just two in a corner and he would still keep going on them. Eventually I got rid of the pen and he would go to his corner to potty whenever he needed to. My baby boy was completely potty trained by 10 months and he has never had an accident since (he's now 2) P.S. I don't know if this helped with his training, but I always made sure that he knew I was the boss; he always got fed after I ate my meal first, even when playing with toys, if I take them away he knows to sit and let me take them. I think because Yorkies are so independent and strong willed if they don't see you as the boss they will just ignore you haha.