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03-06-2009, 02:43 PM | #1 |
Donating YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ross, TX
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| Wee pad training woes We have been trying to potty train our nearly 7 month old Silky Terrier. The breeder said the dog was pad trained, but we think she only uses the pad by accident! We have been following the advice of "experts" on crate training / potty training. They suggest you feed them and then every 15 - 30 min. keep taking them to the pad to "go." We think we must be doing it wrong. Penny is crate trained (or lap trained LOL), maybe overly so. We feed her and then she gets in and out of the crate or our lap every 15 minutes until she goes both potty and poop. In other words, she doesn't get to play until business is done. (They say we are not supposed to let her have accidents.) This is NOT working because she will just hold it many times. For instance, she ate dinner last night at 7pm and then breakfast this morning and still did not poop until this afternoon. (That was when we decided we wanted to eliminate no matter what and so we let her poop on an un-carpeted floor instead of making her go on her pad.) I know that if I "trust" her to follow me to the kitchen or something that she will poop somewhere. She will not poop on that pad willingly. The only time she goes poop on the pad is when we finally let her loose and once she starts we pick her up and make her finish on the pad. :-/ She will often potty a foot away from the pad, and she doesn't give a warning. Yes, sometimes she is sniffing, but she will not stand on the pad and go if we put her there. If we let her walk around she will walk off the pad and just quickly squat without warning. She will just be walking and lean forward and go. Some say to stop her when she is going in the wrong place by saying "stop!." The problem with that is that she will NOT finish when we put her on the pad and it may be up to 2 hours before she will "finish" if we don't let her run around and just go where she wants. (I would rather let her finish off the pad so she can get to play some.) All of this adds up to very little exercise and freedom. She is on an eating schedule (eats morning and evening) and either stays in our lap or crated until she fully goes. We say "go potty" when she goes and praise her tons when she does it in the correct place. The last advice we got, we have not tried. We have been told to just stand her on the pad and not let her off until she goes. To not let her walk at all off the pad. They said we should do this on the pad, to the crate and back until she goes every time until she "gets" it. I have read a bunch here, but I did not find anything specifically on this kind of problem. Sorry if I am asking a question that has been asked umpteen times. Any advice will be much appreciated. Thanks, Tracie |
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03-06-2009, 03:56 PM | #2 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Are you changing the pad out quickly? That's the only other thing I can think of after reading your post. Well, that, and while you want the pad clean, you don't want it TOO clean. I think smelling urine stimulates dogs to pee, males at least. So make sure to blot one corner of the pad with the urine from the used pad. Thor had absolutely no idea what the pads were for when we started. I basically did what you describe in your last paragraph - I put him in the crate, took him out every hour, and put him on the pad. I did not let him move off the pad. If he sat or laid down, I took that as a sign he wasn't going to potty, and put him back in the crate. We had two marathon sessions that lasted over 24 hours where Thor would not go. He also cried about half the time he was in the crate. Once he got it, he got it, though. Now he's using his pad a dozen times a day. It is a little trickier when they pee and don't poop. I had a couple experiences in the morning where he peed, and then I left him for a few minutes, only to come back to a pile of poop somewhere other than the pad. It seems like he prefers to do it when I'm not around. Basically, I let him out of the crate and reward him for peeing. However, if he doesn't poop, I still keep a close eye on him. I'm only totally confident for two hours after he's done #1 & 2. On the plus side, it is harder to do a "lightning dump". These little stinkers can pee in the blink of an eye, but you get more of a warning and opportunity to put them on the pad for poop.
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03-06-2009, 07:13 PM | #3 |
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| ParrotLady I am having the same kind of problems. Nozzle is much younger but he was doing well about a week ago and yesterday at his puppy sitter's house. Today he sits on his pee pad and shakes. I fed him at 0645 this morning and it's now noon--he hasn't gone anything yet! So QuickSilver, thanks for the advice...I'm going to try that out now. He loves his crate so maybe that will help. He's been a complete snugglebug today, so I hate putting him in there...but I'm more concerned about him hurtin that tiny tiny bladder of his! |
03-07-2009, 03:26 PM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ozark, AL, US
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| We used an exercise pen for Tucker. We lined it with his pee pads. We would put him in and he couldnt walk off because it had sides. Some times he wouldnt go if we were watching him so we would just close the door on it and let him out when he was done. Now he gets in it on his own, does his business and gets out. It was also useful when we first got him and he couldnt hold it for very long, if we were going somewhere and didnt want to leave him in his crate for that long we would put him in the pen and he could pee when he needed too. |
03-07-2009, 04:50 PM | #5 | |
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One of us will sit in the bathroom with a book or something for 30 minutes at a time and she will not go, even off the pad. She simply does not want to go where she should. She also doesn't go in the same place twice - ever! So if we put pads in a pen, I don't see how that would be different than the bathroom or kitchen - our only two rooms with tile. Tracie | |
03-07-2009, 05:55 PM | #6 |
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| I feel your pain. I have a 10 week old puppy and she doesn't care to use the puppy pads. The breeder said she was using them before with no problem. So, I don't know if there is a specific brand that is better than others or what. Like you, when she does pee on it, I think it's an accident. I think she goes better outside than on the pee pad. I do have her in the crate when we're not home. She immediately goes outside when we return. Sometimes, she won't go until we bring her back inside. Then, it's usually not on the pee pad. The other thing I think that is odd. My 9 year old housebroken poodle doesn't even sniff the pads. I would think she would be curious, but she acts as if they're not even there. I thought maybe I don't have good ones or why wouldn't she be curious about them? |
03-07-2009, 06:22 PM | #7 |
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| i feel the pain ok here is the deal this is the one that no breeder tells you but myself YORKIES are the hardest or one of the top two in training to housebreak. the best thing or easiest thing to do is get them in a routine of going in one place with the pads. also get them excited in going outside to go potty, they love to go outside, but i am afraid to tell you that even with all this they are hard headed stubborn and strong willed and yorkies will still miss or go where they want but good luck and keep the rug cleaner close by i have 7 yorkies in my house how many accidents do you think we have a day |
03-07-2009, 06:33 PM | #8 |
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| Are you all using treats as well as praise? Chloe P was only 7 wks when I got her ( I know now thats too young) in Oct....by Christmas she was pad trained and that was after trying outside for a couple of weeks, maybe more, but it got too cold for both of us. I'm home during the day so I never used a crate. I put her on the pad and said "potty", I was already saying this outside. Most of the time she would go but had accidents too. She only has the use of two rooms, kitchen and adjoining family room. She never went the same place twice either. The thing that seemed to turn the corner for us was adding treats. I acted like I won a million dollars when she went on the pad and she loved the attention but when I gave treats she fell all over herself and before long she "had it". She is totally hard-headed about everything else tho and I'm not having much luck training anything else. Does anyone have it easy? I hope this helps. |
03-10-2009, 01:14 PM | #9 | |
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