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morningsting · 05-15-2008, 11:57 AM

I have posted this before, but I really do need some advice here. I've had my Yorkie (seven weeks old) for a week now&my Chi still hates him. I put them in the backyard together&now she has started growling at him. I just don't know what to do ... I'm scared that she's going to bite him&that could really hurt him&he could possibly die. I know that this is my responsibility but I just don't know what to do. When she growls at him I immediately say "Daisy, NO!"&pull her away. Does anyone have any advice on how to train my Chi to tolerate my Yorkie? Will they ever tolerate each other, or is this just going to be an uphill battle that can't be won? Should I enroll my Chi in training classes? She really does hate other dogs&constantly barks at them when she sees them&growls at them like crazy. I don't know why this happened to her, because when she was a puppy she was a very social dog! She loved meeting new people&being held&pet by strangers&she used to love other dogs as well. After she came into heat the first time (she's not spayed to this day) her disposition changed&now she's very protective of me&is very aggressive towards other people&dogs. I know that Chi's are like this ... I've read that most Chi's are very protective of their owners, but I really would like her to stop her aggression. Would a training class even take her if she's like this? Thanks for reading all of this everyone. I really appreciate any advice that you guys could give me.

sheilajom · 05-15-2008, 12:01 PM

I think a week is a very short amount of time. Try crating the new baby and letting the chi slowly get used to him. In the crate he can't be hurt.

cooperk · 05-15-2008, 12:05 PM

Make sure you give Chi a great deal of attention and talk very sweet to him. I would show him how much fun a pup can be in the house by alot of playtime...more than normal. Also make sure Chi has his own time with you and time alone without the pup.

I'm no expert, but dogs are so territorial. You should watch him very carefully. Dogs can be unpredictable.

ARCHIE · 05-15-2008, 12:16 PM

After reading a horror story on YT yesterday regarding an intact Yokie
female I'm not sure this will work out for you. If she were spaded perhaps
you would stand a better change of them being friendly. I would watch
the pup very carefully and never leave the Chi alone with her.
I hope someone else can be of more help but please watch her like
a hawk.
Good luck,

morningsting · 05-15-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE

After reading a horror story on YT yesterday regarding an intact Yokie
female I'm not sure this will work out for you. If she were spaded perhaps
you would stand a better change of them being friendly. I would watch
the pup very carefully and never leave the Chi alone with her.
I hope someone else can be of more help but please watch her like
a hawk.
Good luck,

Thanks, I will. I would never, ever leave them alone together. I don't know what my Chi would to do my Yorkie if I left them alone together. Do you think if I got her spayed now it would help?

bchgirl · 05-15-2008, 12:31 PM

I would advise spaying her although honestly it may not help at this point.

How old is the chi?

Sometimes there is just an adjustment period going on. Chi may be letting puppy know...this is HER house...she is the boss. Is she snapping at him or baring her teeth? Those are agressive actions...growls don't always mean aggressive...it's just another way they speak to each other. Ramsey will make growly noises at Reggie the puppy...if she isn't in the mood. It is not the same growl that is a growl of aggression. The only thing that worries me in your case...is her reaction to all other dogs. Are these dogs in her street? That's a terriorial reaction. Mine will do that at dogs walking by our yard.

Shower Chi with attention...letting her know puppy hasn't taken her place in the family.

morningsting · 05-15-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

I would advise spaying her although honestly it may not help at this point.

How old is the chi?

Sometimes there is just an adjustment period going on. Chi may be letting puppy know...this is HER house...she is the boss. Is she snapping at him or baring her teeth? Those are agressive actions...growls don't always mean aggressive...it's just another way they speak to each other. Ramsey will make growly noises at Reggie the puppy...if she isn't in the mood. It is not the same growl that is a growl of aggression. The only thing that worries me in your case...is her reaction to all other dogs. Are these dogs in her street? That's a terriorial reaction. Mine will do that at dogs walking by our yard.

Shower Chi with attention...letting her know puppy hasn't taken her place in the family.

No, she's not snapping at him or baring her teeth, just growling. She barks at dogs&people that are on our street, as well as when I take her on walks. She's very territorial&thinks that she owns everything. She's three years old. I've found a trainer in Hawaii that does private lessons for a very reasonable price, so I think I'll probably enroll her in those for aggression. Hopefully it will help her out in general, because having such an aggressive dog is no fun.

Sandysbabies · 05-15-2008, 12:48 PM

When we bought Kayla, Mandy was still grieving over the loss of Max. What we did was kept Kayla in her kennel and I would only let her out (supervised to the hilt) a little at a time until Mandy and Tina got use to her. I would really be careful. That is pretty young for a breeder to let a baby go. Seven wks. is really young to leave their mothers. We try also to give them all the same amount of attention. THey growl now and act like they are going to tare each other to shreads but they will run and bite at each other and get a toy and play. It just takes time but I am certainly no authority but every dog has different personalites and we were fortunate they excepted Kayla. Just be patient but really keep an eye on that baby at all times.

bchgirl · 05-15-2008, 12:54 PM

The trainer is a good idea. I didn't realize puppy was 7 weeks old. I mis-read it that you had had him 7 weeks.

Mine will be playing...and it's all growls and rough housing. Sounds very menacing. I have seen Ramsey and Reese fight literally once...and trust me it is very different from those other growls and barks. Reggie even growls at Ramsey and Reese.

Be sure to watch chi....and keep correcting her behavior if she acts aggressive at all.

cooperk · 05-15-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by morningsting

No, she's not snapping at him or baring her teeth, just growling. She barks at dogs&people that are on our street, as well as when I take her on walks. She's very territorial&thinks that she owns everything. She's three years old. I've found a trainer in Hawaii that does private lessons for a very reasonable price, so I think I'll probably enroll her in those for aggression. Hopefully it will help her out in general, because having such an aggressive dog is no fun.

That's a good start! It sounds like you have an alpha dog on your hands

yougetthesmiles · 05-15-2008, 03:05 PM

have you tried to put her on a harness and leash, slowly let her sniff him and if she shows any agression, pull her away from him.

I really think it's just going to take time.

morningsting · 05-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles

have you tried to put her on a harness and leash, slowly let her sniff him and if she shows any agression, pull her away from him.

I really think it's just going to take time.

Thanks! I have tried that, but she just ignores him&doesn't even go up to him to sniff him out or anything. When I did this, I did it behind our house in an area that she doesn't consider "hers". Maybe she's just not interested in him at all&doesn't want anything to do with him? I don't know, lol.

morningsting · 05-15-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperk

That's a good start! It sounds like you have an alpha dog on your hands

Oh yes, definitely! She knows that I'm the boss though ... at least, usually she does, lol. She always listens to me&my husband, so that's good at least

cooperk · 05-16-2008, 03:43 AM

Good. Keep working with her. It took Rascal (8 yr old male) a few weeks to really adjust to Trixie (now 6 mos). He was never agressive towards her, but did make sure he groweled when protecting his bone. They had this "bone ownership" struggle going on for awhile. It just gradually went away, as we rewarded Rascal with a great deal of affection when he played nice. He finally accepted the little pup in his life and they are best friends now.

I hope your situation goes the same way. Good luck! And keep watching that little diva!

MissLizzie · 05-16-2008, 05:25 AM

It took a full month for my 12 yr old cat to accept my new kitten when I brought him home. (and by accept I mean "tolerate") I know cats and dogs are different, but I think if you make the introductions VERY slow, it can work. Letting them play in the yard together during week 1 is definitely too much too fast. My brother has a Chi and I know how high strung they can be, so this will probably be slow going. But I think it can be done.

05-15-2008, 11:57 AM	#1
morningsting YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 663	This is only getting worse ... I have posted this before, but I really do need some advice here. I've had my Yorkie (seven weeks old) for a week now&my Chi still hates him. I put them in the backyard together&now she has started growling at him. I just don't know what to do ... I'm scared that she's going to bite him&that could really hurt him&he could possibly die. I know that this is my responsibility but I just don't know what to do. When she growls at him I immediately say "Daisy, NO!"&pull her away. Does anyone have any advice on how to train my Chi to tolerate my Yorkie? Will they ever tolerate each other, or is this just going to be an uphill battle that can't be won? Should I enroll my Chi in training classes? She really does hate other dogs&constantly barks at them when she sees them&growls at them like crazy. I don't know why this happened to her, because when she was a puppy she was a very social dog! She loved meeting new people&being held&pet by strangers&she used to love other dogs as well. After she came into heat the first time (she's not spayed to this day) her disposition changed&now she's very protective of me&is very aggressive towards other people&dogs. I know that Chi's are like this ... I've read that most Chi's are very protective of their owners, but I really would like her to stop her aggression. Would a training class even take her if she's like this? Thanks for reading all of this everyone. I really appreciate any advice that you guys could give me. __________________ dogster.com/dogs/781890 - Bear's Dogster dogster.com/dogs/369570 - Daisy's Dogster

05-15-2008, 12:05 PM	#3
cooperk YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Westford, MA Posts: 382	Make sure you give Chi a great deal of attention and talk very sweet to him. I would show him how much fun a pup can be in the house by alot of playtime...more than normal. Also make sure Chi has his own time with you and time alone without the pup. I'm no expert, but dogs are so territorial. You should watch him very carefully. Dogs can be unpredictable. __________________ Kathy, Trixie, Barkley, and Rascal Follow Trixie's pups progress at www.ladybugyorkies.blogspot.com

05-15-2008, 12:31 PM	#6
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	I would advise spaying her although honestly it may not help at this point. How old is the chi? Sometimes there is just an adjustment period going on. Chi may be letting puppy know...this is HER house...she is the boss. Is she snapping at him or baring her teeth? Those are agressive actions...growls don't always mean aggressive...it's just another way they speak to each other. Ramsey will make growly noises at Reggie the puppy...if she isn't in the mood. It is not the same growl that is a growl of aggression. The only thing that worries me in your case...is her reaction to all other dogs. Are these dogs in her street? That's a terriorial reaction. Mine will do that at dogs walking by our yard. Shower Chi with attention...letting her know puppy hasn't taken her place in the family. __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

05-15-2008, 12:54 PM	#9
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	The trainer is a good idea. I didn't realize puppy was 7 weeks old. I mis-read it that you had had him 7 weeks. Mine will be playing...and it's all growls and rough housing. Sounds very menacing. I have seen Ramsey and Reese fight literally once...and trust me it is very different from those other growls and barks. Reggie even growls at Ramsey and Reese. Be sure to watch chi....and keep correcting her behavior if she acts aggressive at all. __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

05-16-2008, 03:43 AM	#14
cooperk YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Westford, MA Posts: 382	Good. Keep working with her. It took Rascal (8 yr old male) a few weeks to really adjust to Trixie (now 6 mos). He was never agressive towards her, but did make sure he groweled when protecting his bone. They had this "bone ownership" struggle going on for awhile. It just gradually went away, as we rewarded Rascal with a great deal of affection when he played nice. He finally accepted the little pup in his life and they are best friends now. I hope your situation goes the same way. Good luck! And keep watching that little diva! __________________ Kathy, Trixie, Barkley, and Rascal Follow Trixie's pups progress at www.ladybugyorkies.blogspot.com

05-15-2008, 12:01 PM	#2
sheilajom YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 461 Blog Entries: 1	I think a week is a very short amount of time. Try crating the new baby and letting the chi slowly get used to him. In the crate he can't be hurt.

05-15-2008, 12:16 PM	#4
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	After reading a horror story on YT yesterday regarding an intact Yokie female I'm not sure this will work out for you. If she were spaded perhaps you would stand a better change of them being friendly. I would watch the pup very carefully and never leave the Chi alone with her. I hope someone else can be of more help but please watch her like a hawk. Good luck,

05-15-2008, 12:48 PM	#8
Sandysbabies YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,234	When we bought Kayla, Mandy was still grieving over the loss of Max. What we did was kept Kayla in her kennel and I would only let her out (supervised to the hilt) a little at a time until Mandy and Tina got use to her. I would really be careful. That is pretty young for a breeder to let a baby go. Seven wks. is really young to leave their mothers. We try also to give them all the same amount of attention. THey growl now and act like they are going to tare each other to shreads but they will run and bite at each other and get a toy and play. It just takes time but I am certainly no authority but every dog has different personalites and we were fortunate they excepted Kayla. Just be patient but really keep an eye on that baby at all times.

05-15-2008, 03:05 PM	#11
yougetthesmiles BANNED FOR NOT MAILING PRODUCTS PURCHASED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,295 Blog Entries: 3	have you tried to put her on a harness and leash, slowly let her sniff him and if she shows any agression, pull her away from him. I really think it's just going to take time.

05-16-2008, 05:25 AM	#15
MissLizzie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 75	It took a full month for my 12 yr old cat to accept my new kitten when I brought him home. (and by accept I mean "tolerate") I know cats and dogs are different, but I think if you make the introductions VERY slow, it can work. Letting them play in the yard together during week 1 is definitely too much too fast. My brother has a Chi and I know how high strung they can be, so this will probably be slow going. But I think it can be done.