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Old 02-20-2008, 04:14 PM   #1
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Animal Smiley 036 Troubles with new puppy, help!

Me and my mom, just got a new puppy last saturday, she 11 weeks old! It's our first dog and its terrier! My mom just feel in love with it, so we got her, but we didn't know what kind of mess we were getting ourselves into! haha.

Well its been 4 days and she's been doing really good, i think. We are using the puppy pads and she seems to be adapting very well. There have been many times where she just goes to the pads all my herself and we are just so proud.
THe one problem we have is at night! We leave her in her cage when ever we can't watch her and at night. But the problem is, she goes potty all over and then ends up stepping in the and rolling in it. So in the morning she stinks and we've had to give her a bath everyday! So i was wondering if there were some things we could do to maybe stop this or prevent this? I know she's a puppy and she can't hold it very long, when it comes to long period of times, but what can we do when we can't watch her?

One more question, she has a problem with wanted to eat her own poop? Which i find very gross, and we've tired stoping her, but she always seems to want to? Is there any way you can, maybe, stop her from this?


please help! thank you much!
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She should be able to sleep through the night. A play and a last potty break before bed should hold her over so she sleeps through the night. Then she should be let out in the morning so she can do her business.

I've heard of people making sure the cages they use are small enough so the puppy cannot pee in one end and sleep comfortably in another, but I don't know if it works from experience.

An alternative is the opposite, a bigger cage so you can put one of her pads down one end and her bed in the other. This should encourage her to use the pad if she needs to go during the night, while she has her bed in the opposite end to sleep on. This is how my mother's puppies are paper trained.

Good luck with the toilet training, I'm sure there's something out there that will solve your problem.
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I was having the same issues with my puppy, I ended up leaving the crate open onto a pee pad and then putting a gate around crate and pad so that he would only have room to either stay in the crate or be on the pad. Now he goes to sleep and wakes up early to do his business and then goes back to sleep. For the other problem of eating his poop you can buy chewable tablets at petsmart - I think they are called Deter - and those should put an end to his eating the feces since they make it taste bad (just make sure to give the puppy only a quarter or half tablet according to its weight). Hope this helps!!
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What size crate to you have. The crate should only be when the puppy can comfortably lay and turn around not to much room. Another thing that I have done with my puppy that has helped me out is I do not feed them after 8pm. I take them out at about 830 and if they do not potty again at 9 before we go to bed. For a little bit o not put anything in the crate with her not even a blanket, and tell her that she is not supose to go in her crate. She will come along it just takes ALOT OF PATIENCE. I feel you there. As far as her eatting the poop. Keep telling her that is bad and correct her. I really dont know what to say about that I have not had that experience with my puppies eating there poop. buy I am pretty sure someone has.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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I really think it is alot to ask of a young puppy, from all I have read they cannot hold very long until at least 5 months and then only about 8 hours. I just got new puppy,and trust me they do not want to roll around in poo, Im sorry for your new baby. They really do want to please you. Might want to not feed water too late. She is like a real baby that cannot hold all night I got up and made sure my Yorkie was let out until he was older.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:26 PM   #6
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Sorry, I just saw your 2nd question Talk to your Vet, they have something that will prevent/stop. Unless puppy is due shots, I just call and pick up med suggested, rather than office visit charge.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM   #7
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Wink larger crates!

I would suggest an X-pen big enough for her crate and a puppy pad so that she can get out of the crate and potty and go back to bed...or just put a bed in it with the puppy pad! most puppy's don't like to roll around in their own mess so she should go on the puppy pad if you give her the option to do so during the night hours.

The other suggestion is to have someone get up every 2 or 3 hours and take her out!
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Chelsea's 12 weeks old (I got her at 10wks) and the first night I had her she went in her crate at like 10pm...and whined since it was her first time in it...and then at around 1am or so she started whining uncontrollably...well I thought it was just separation anxiety so I just ignored it... finally it got so bad that I got her out and she had peed in her crate and was soaked! So until recently at around 1-2am she'll start scratching and whining so I let her out to potty and then she goes right back in her crate until around 8am...
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Chelsea's 12 weeks old (I got her at 10wks) and the first night I had her she went in her crate at like 10pm...and whined since it was her first time in it...and then at around 1am or so she started whining uncontrollably...well I thought it was just separation anxiety so I just ignored it... finally it got so bad that I got her out and she had peed in her crate and was soaked! So until recently at around 1-2am she'll start scratching and whining so I let her out to potty and then she goes right back in her crate until around 8am...
As she grows older she'll be able to go longer without a toilet break, but the young ones have a hard time keeping it in all night, depending on their 'bed time', if they had food or water near their bed time, and how early they get let out in the morning. Try to make her last potty break consistently close to her bed time, and have consistent breaks throughout the day, so that she gets into a routine of when she goes potty. As she gains more control of her bladder, the amount of breaks she'll need will go down, but be quite rigid until then, so she doesn't get in the habit of the 1am potty breaks and expects them.

The other alternative (which may be preferable for a young pup with a small bladder instead of lasting the night) is to increase her sleeping space so she can have both a bed and a potty area until she gains the control needed to last the night. It might be easier to notice, as you'll eventually find in the mornings that she's gone the entire night without needing her paper or potty pad, then she can just have her bed in the crate, as you won't need to worry about her soiling herself.

Choose the method which is easiest for both you and your pup, but try and be consistent so you don't confuse her.
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The crate is quiet big and i think thats most of the problem. We got it from the vet we got her from. We tried just giving her enough room just for her to sleep by gating off the back end, but she ended up going potty all over her bed, which wasn't the best thing to wait up too!
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Thats what i tried last night, i put the puppy pad in the back of the cage and then put her blanket in the front so she could go potty in the back then go back to bed, in the front, since the cage is sooo big. That acutally worked out GREAT! she was alll clean in the morning!

I'm just wondering if this is a good idea or not? I mean leaving her go potty in her cage? I dont know if this will make problems in the furture? :/
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The easiest way and most humane way to do it I think is to use an xpen. Put a pee pad at one end, puppy's crate/cage/bed(with blanket/pillow) with gate open at the other and puppy's water and food(if you free feed) in there. I know some will suggest to hold water but it is not recommended especially for a puppy, they do need to have access to water whenever they need to and it is not right to ask them to hold because their bladder is not fully developed yet so why not make the puppy and yourself comfortable (because you don't have to end up cleaning puppy each time) by using an xpen and arrange everything in the area. It is totally okay to put blanket/pillow in the crate because once you have the area organized, the puppy will know crate is sleeping area and pee pad is the area where pee/poo is for (use training spray if you have to).
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Thats what i tried last night, i put the puppy pad in the back of the cage and then put her blanket in the front so she could go potty in the back then go back to bed, in the front, since the cage is sooo big. That acutally worked out GREAT! she was alll clean in the morning!

I'm just wondering if this is a good idea or not? I mean leaving her go potty in her cage? I dont know if this will make problems in the furture? :/
Welcome to YT and congratulations on your new puppy! I think what you are doing for now is great since it is working. It sounds like she wants to do the right thing and when you gave her the opportunity she did! When she gets a bit older and can hold it for longer you will be able to make changes along the way....
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Alright, thank you for the help!

i just wasn't sure if it would make the training in the furture harder, since she knows now that she can go potty in her cage and in the future we want to teach her not tooo? but i think this is working good!
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The easiest way and most humane way to do it I think is to use an xpen. Put a pee pad at one end, puppy's crate/cage/bed(with blanket/pillow) with gate open at the other and puppy's water and food(if you free feed) in there. I know some will suggest to hold water but it is not recommended especially for a puppy, they do need to have access to water whenever they need to and it is not right to ask them to hold because their bladder is not fully developed yet so why not make the puppy and yourself comfortable (because you don't have to end up cleaning puppy each time) by using an xpen and arrange everything in the area. It is totally okay to put blanket/pillow in the crate because once you have the area organized, the puppy will know crate is sleeping area and pee pad is the area where pee/poo is for (use training spray if you have to).


whats a xpen? haha
maybe be a dumb question, but i dont know what that is? )
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