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02-17-2008, 11:04 AM | #1 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| How to phase out treats? Since we've had Franklin (a little bit over a month), I've been working with him a couple of times a day on "sit". Yesterday, he finally got it! When I get out a treat, he jumps up 2-3 times to smell the treat (to see if it's worth sitting for, I guess ), and then he sits. It's really pretty cute. However, I want to start phasing out the treat.. but it doesn't work because when I don't have a treat, he doesn't smell it and he's not interested! How did you guys do it? I've read a lot about clicker training.. but I can't phase out the treat (and click) because he only does it for a treat. Does this make sense? I want to start on other tricks too, but we have to "sit" down pat first.
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02-17-2008, 11:16 AM | #2 |
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| Have you associated hand signals with the commands? If not, you should do that before trying to phase out the treats. My puppy school teacher said to just up the anty. So, in a session, if you take baby through four sits, reward the first two, give nothing but lots of praise and some play on 3 and then reward again on 4. Gradually increase the number of praises and reduce the number of food treats. The praise and play has to be just important to him as the food treat. How old is Franklin?
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02-17-2008, 11:51 AM | #3 | |
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02-17-2008, 12:01 PM | #4 | |
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for Sit- I hold my hand in a fist and start with it at my waist and raise it up to my chest area now i don't even have to say Sit... i just use the and command for Lay down- my hand is still in a fist- i start with it roughly around her nose (just at that level.. doesn't have to be near her.. but you might need to start with that for Franklin) and then i lower it to the ground For Stay- i just put a flat palm in front of her face and for Wait (like if i am going to open the door adn i watn to go out first and i want her to wait.... ) i use an open palm and make an arc (i guess like i'm waving good bye) in front of her. You'll have to use both the signals and the treat for a while.. but soon you wil only have to use the hand signals... when i want Layla to stay i still say STAY and use the hand command | |
02-17-2008, 12:17 PM | #5 | |
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I agree with Gracie2006 on phasing out the treats on every other command or so. We did this with our two-and they will do ANYTHING to get that treat If we want to, we can get them to do 10+ things before they get a treat.
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02-17-2008, 12:22 PM | #6 |
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| Re hand signals, for sit I hold a treat by their nose, then gradually move backward. In an attempt to follow the treat, the dog will sit. Eventually, you can use the same hand motion without the treat. For down, I hold the treat at the nose and then slowly lower it to the floor. When the dog goes down, I give the treat. Again, eventually you can use the same motion without the treat. I have always used the combination of hand signal, verbal command and treat.
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02-17-2008, 07:29 PM | #7 | |
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Any suggestions?
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02-17-2008, 07:36 PM | #8 | |
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02-17-2008, 07:42 PM | #9 | |
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All that being said, mine still get treats for pottying (after they potty, one barks and the other begs to tell us that they pottied - Reggie is 11 years old!!) and Coby still gets one for going to his kennel on command (or when he sees me get my coat on). But for many other commands, they just get treats once in a while.
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02-17-2008, 07:43 PM | #10 | |
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02-17-2008, 07:46 PM | #11 | |
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