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AprilLove · 12-01-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tink's Mom

Yep. We go once a week for her bloodwork and he always does a UA too. I talk so much about it that it's now the first topic of conversation.

That's good to know she's ok. Well, I think color coordinated diapers are the way to go!!

Maybe they will inspire her to hold it longer and then be back to being a good potty girl?

Lorna · 12-01-2007, 04:35 PM

I understand your frustration! I have three Yorkies and two of them were pretty well trained, hardly had accidents, but since keeping the last puppy from Savannah's litter, they all want to potty on the floor, pooh and t-t. My husband is getting very frustrated, says I'm not good at potty training, etc. I guess I'm not. They will potty outside, but just like Tink, as soon as the puppy gets back inside, she will potty again on the floor 5 minutes later. I think the other two are doing it because the puppy does and the smell is there. I'd have to wash my floor constantly to get the smell out.

If I crate the puppy, she cries and cries to get out because she's had freedom for 5 months now. I hardly ever catch who is the culprit, but when the poohs are big, I know it's the mother. I know they are all guilty!

They will not potty in their crates and have gone as long as 8 or 9 hours, so why can't they hold it when they are free and active!! Frustrating!!

Gingergirlsmom · 12-01-2007, 06:25 PM

ba56_1.jpgsee, she can be stylin' even for the holidays!

Tink's Mom · 12-01-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

Attachment 173297see, she can be stylin' even for the holidays!

LOL, too cute! I'd better get busy sewing. I'ts gonna cost a pretty penny to have a bunch made. Shadow made her 2 really pretty ones, so guess I'll revise that pattern a little and make some more. Her tail is squished.

I think because she's soooo long.

Erin · 12-01-2007, 07:43 PM

Mine are both housetrained, and Loki has diabetes insipidus (which basically means he drinks too much and therefore pees a lot) and Sammy wasn't housetrained at 1 yr old when we got her. So we've spent quite a bit of time on housetraining. Sammy only just caught on to letting us know when she needed to poop outside about a month ago. Tonight she even went in the snow!

Anyway, I some suggestions. First, have you tried a bell? Second, did I read right that she goes outside but she still has pads? I'm sure that is confusing her. Eliminate the pads and take her outside only. Also, make sure the carpet is treated with an enzyme cleaner, but also just because she peed on the carpet once doesn't mean she has to keep going back there. Mine peed on the carpet a hundred times while we were training, but they don't at all any more.

Sam was really hard to train because she thought nothing of going on the floor. We had to watch her every second and if we couldn't, she was crated or tethered to something. We learned what time of day she pooped and stayed outside until she did. If she wasn't interested in pooping she got tethered to the door and we took her out every 30 mins or so until she finally went. Otherwise, she would run off and go in the house somewhere. Now, finally, she rings the bell when she needs to go so we don't have to do that anymore.

And every 30 minutes is normal around here with my pee machine.

Tink's Mom · 12-01-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Erin

Mine are both housetrained, and Loki has diabetes insipidus (which basically means he drinks too much and therefore pees a lot) and Sammy wasn't housetrained at 1 yr old when we got her. So we've spent quite a bit of time on housetraining. Sammy only just caught on to letting us know when she needed to poop outside about a month ago. Tonight she even went in the snow!

Anyway, I some suggestions. First, have you tried a bell? Second, did I read right that she goes outside but she still has pads? I'm sure that is confusing her. Eliminate the pads and take her outside only. Also, make sure the carpet is treated with an enzyme cleaner, but also just because she peed on the carpet once doesn't mean she has to keep going back there. Mine peed on the carpet a hundred times while we were training, but they don't at all any more.

Sam was really hard to train because she thought nothing of going on the floor. We had to watch her every second and if we couldn't, she was crated or tethered to something. We learned what time of day she pooped and stayed outside until she did. If she wasn't interested in pooping she got tethered to the door and we took her out every 30 mins or so until she finally went. Otherwise, she would run off and go in the house somewhere. Now, finally, she rings the bell when she needs to go so we don't have to do that anymore.

And every 30 minutes is normal around here with my pee machine.

Yep, I've done all that, except tethering her to the door. That doesn't appeal to me. We need the potty pad at the foot of the bed for night time because I can't get up to let her out and she can't go all night without pottying. Neither can I!

MyFairLacy · 12-01-2007, 09:36 PM

Sounds like you've tried everything. I honestly think that no matter what you do, there are always some dogs that will never be 100% potty trained. I thought Lacy was 99.999% until I went back to school...now she's started pottying in my roommate's room occasionally

I even had her treated for a urinary tract infection.

Have you thought about ripping up your carpet and having hard floors? When I have my own house one day I plan to have all hard floors (I know some people like carpet too much though).

I know it can be frustrating

YorkieMom55 · 12-01-2007, 09:44 PM

Could it be a side effect of her medications? You said that it started in Sept, were there any different medications added or changed then.
I remember a neighbor who had a pom who would seize & after a change in her meds she would have the same problem that you're having. (It was 20 yrs ago where I used to live and would not know how to find her to ask.) It was like her pom forgot everything that she learned about potty training & even simple commands.

Mari-Lou · 12-01-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Have you thought about ripping up your carpet and having hard floors? When I have my own house one day I plan to have all hard floors (I know some people like carpet too much though).

I know it can be frustrating

I will never have carpeting again. Between grandkids, dogs, and cats it is so much easier mopping hardwood floors.

yorkieaddict · 12-01-2007, 09:55 PM

I also have occasional "accidents" with my three and have tried everything. We are thinking of investing in the new 25 year guaranteed warranty for pet stains on Lee brand carpeting for our upstairs bedrooms.

For My Coby · 12-01-2007, 09:58 PM

You are so well-spoken - obviously, you know what you're doing, but Tink sure doesn't!!

You're way too smart for me to offer any advice, but I would say that the diapers are the way to go - for now at least. We had a rescue yorkie that had some serious issues and submissive peeing was only one of them. I went the diaper route just to save some of the stress in the household. We all needed the break from the stress (and cleaning). Maybe after the holidays, you can regroup. But for now, I'd just say you all need a break. And who knows? Maybe it'll be the magic ticket if she doesn't like to be wet.

Doodlebug · 12-01-2007, 10:20 PM

Is it possible that she is trying to tell you she has to go potty in a way that is so subtle that you don't realize it? I think Daisy was really potty trained long before I realized it. She would sit and stare at me to tell me she wanted to go outside and I would just pick her up. After awhile I started getting up and following her and she led me to the back door. It took me a while to catch on that she was actually telling me in her way that she had to potty. She later learned that if she says 'woof' I respond a lot quicker. LOL

Tink's Mom · 12-02-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by For My Coby

You are so well-spoken - obviously, you know what you're doing, but Tink sure doesn't!!

You're way too smart for me to offer any advice, but I would say that the diapers are the way to go - for now at least. We had a rescue yorkie that had some serious issues and submissive peeing was only one of them. I went the diaper route just to save some of the stress in the household. We all needed the break from the stress (and cleaning). Maybe after the holidays, you can regroup. But for now, I'd just say you all need a break. And who knows? Maybe it'll be the magic ticket if she doesn't like to be wet.

Well, thank you for saying I'm well-spoken. I think that's a compliment; at least I'm going to accept it as one.

But I'm certainly not too smart for anyone to offer me some advice.

MyFairLacy, I wish I could have hard floors. However, I live in an apartment and they don't offer that choice.

Wonder if I could suggest it if I paid for the tile? Something to research anyway.

And Doodlebug, maybe she IS sending me a signal I'm not reading. I'll pay really close attention these next few days.

And last but not least, YorkieMom55, you may have something there about her meds. You would think I should have thot' of that since pharmaceutical research is my profession!

I'll do some checking on that today.

Thank you all for the sharing and caring. It does help my frustration and makes me feel much better about the situation.

SophieRose · 12-02-2007, 10:23 AM

You know, Susie, she has been through so much and once the scent is down in the carpet, they are continually drawn back. Personally, the diaper sounds like a solution and will allow her more freedom, and less stress for you. Charlie wears a belly band when I am at work.

Be gentle with yourself and Tink. Always remember even though we think of them as human, they are still an animal. She can't tell you how she feels inside or the urgency to piddle.

I remember being upset with Sophie because she wouldn't go potty outside at night...now I realize she was scared of the dark. Hindsight is 50/50.

Warmly, Deborah

yogisdad · 12-10-2007, 07:22 PM

Well if I were you, seriously...I would go insane. But here goes on something i would try.

You said she had a seizure of some sort...this potty trouble could be a sign of future problems to come in your yorky. Id have the vet on speed dial just in case.

Try allowing her to only live in one room by use of gates so she cant get out, id suggest the living room. Set her up an area with her bed and pee pads surrounding it. Have plenty of cleaner around as im sure you already do. Plenty of toys and food and water availible at all times. Try leaving the TV on, there are plenty of dvd's showcasing dogs and only dogs. While you are gone that could help entertain her. Basiclly making her life very comfy and happy. If she goes on her pads then do your good girl thing and if she doesnt just clean it up. Obviously there is some kind of underlying condition.

As you do this very very slowly and delicately try to train her like you would just slow it down.

I feel for you and your yorkie and hope all gets better but id just try to take all of the stress out of your life and her life. This should help you out but like all good things, it will take time.

12-01-2007, 04:35 PM	#17
Lorna Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Owens Cross Roads, AL Posts: 44	I Give Up - Tink Is Wearing A Diaper The Rest of Her Life I understand your frustration! I have three Yorkies and two of them were pretty well trained, hardly had accidents, but since keeping the last puppy from Savannah's litter, they all want to potty on the floor, pooh and t-t. My husband is getting very frustrated, says I'm not good at potty training, etc. I guess I'm not. They will potty outside, but just like Tink, as soon as the puppy gets back inside, she will potty again on the floor 5 minutes later. I think the other two are doing it because the puppy does and the smell is there. I'd have to wash my floor constantly to get the smell out. If I crate the puppy, she cries and cries to get out because she's had freedom for 5 months now. I hardly ever catch who is the culprit, but when the poohs are big, I know it's the mother. I know they are all guilty! They will not potty in their crates and have gone as long as 8 or 9 hours, so why can't they hold it when they are free and active!! Frustrating!!

12-01-2007, 06:25 PM	#18
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12-01-2007, 07:43 PM	#20
Erin Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 3,306	Mine are both housetrained, and Loki has diabetes insipidus (which basically means he drinks too much and therefore pees a lot) and Sammy wasn't housetrained at 1 yr old when we got her. So we've spent quite a bit of time on housetraining. Sammy only just caught on to letting us know when she needed to poop outside about a month ago. Tonight she even went in the snow! Anyway, I some suggestions. First, have you tried a bell? Second, did I read right that she goes outside but she still has pads? I'm sure that is confusing her. Eliminate the pads and take her outside only. Also, make sure the carpet is treated with an enzyme cleaner, but also just because she peed on the carpet once doesn't mean she has to keep going back there. Mine peed on the carpet a hundred times while we were training, but they don't at all any more. Sam was really hard to train because she thought nothing of going on the floor. We had to watch her every second and if we couldn't, she was crated or tethered to something. We learned what time of day she pooped and stayed outside until she did. If she wasn't interested in pooping she got tethered to the door and we took her out every 30 mins or so until she finally went. Otherwise, she would run off and go in the house somewhere. Now, finally, she rings the bell when she needs to go so we don't have to do that anymore. And every 30 minutes is normal around here with my pee machine. __________________ Erin, Sammy & Loki Sewing patterns and tutorials @ www.dogundermydesk.com

12-01-2007, 09:36 PM	#22
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	Sounds like you've tried everything. I honestly think that no matter what you do, there are always some dogs that will never be 100% potty trained. I thought Lacy was 99.999% until I went back to school...now she's started pottying in my roommate's room occasionally I even had her treated for a urinary tract infection. Have you thought about ripping up your carpet and having hard floors? When I have my own house one day I plan to have all hard floors (I know some people like carpet too much though). I know it can be frustrating __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

12-01-2007, 09:44 PM	#23
YorkieMom55 All Dogs Go To Heaven Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: By The Lake Posts: 2,727	Could it be a side effect of her medications? You said that it started in Sept, were there any different medications added or changed then. I remember a neighbor who had a pom who would seize & after a change in her meds she would have the same problem that you're having. (It was 20 yrs ago where I used to live and would not know how to find her to ask.) It was like her pom forgot everything that she learned about potty training & even simple commands. __________________ Jeanie I am @ the Lake Jackson, Maggie, Sunshine, Bailey, Rocky, Emmie & Jack

12-01-2007, 09:55 PM	#25
yorkieaddict Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 877	I also have occasional "accidents" with my three and have tried everything. We are thinking of investing in the new 25 year guaranteed warranty for pet stains on Lee brand carpeting for our upstairs bedrooms. __________________ My belongs to Molly, Princeton and Pinky http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p...edium=text_url

12-01-2007, 09:58 PM	#26
For My Coby Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,139	You are so well-spoken - obviously, you know what you're doing, but Tink sure doesn't!! You're way too smart for me to offer any advice, but I would say that the diapers are the way to go - for now at least. We had a rescue yorkie that had some serious issues and submissive peeing was only one of them. I went the diaper route just to save some of the stress in the household. We all needed the break from the stress (and cleaning). Maybe after the holidays, you can regroup. But for now, I'd just say you all need a break. And who knows? Maybe it'll be the magic ticket if she doesn't like to be wet. __________________ Diane, and my boys ..... Coby and Reggie !! Striving to be a YTPP - a YT Positive Poster! In Memory of My Beautiful Mother 7/22/28-8/27/08

12-01-2007, 10:20 PM	#27
Doodlebug ♥Love My Puppies!♥ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: US Posts: 5,786	Is it possible that she is trying to tell you she has to go potty in a way that is so subtle that you don't realize it? I think Daisy was really potty trained long before I realized it. She would sit and stare at me to tell me she wanted to go outside and I would just pick her up. After awhile I started getting up and following her and she led me to the back door. It took me a while to catch on that she was actually telling me in her way that she had to potty. She later learned that if she says 'woof' I respond a lot quicker. LOL __________________ RIP My Sweet Darling Angel Daisy 08/09/03 - 10/02/15, RIP My Sweet Baby Boy Teddy Bear 02/01/04 - 02/11/16 Photos HERE

12-02-2007, 10:23 AM	#29
SophieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 2,217	You know, Susie, she has been through so much and once the scent is down in the carpet, they are continually drawn back. Personally, the diaper sounds like a solution and will allow her more freedom, and less stress for you. Charlie wears a belly band when I am at work. Be gentle with yourself and Tink. Always remember even though we think of them as human, they are still an animal. She can't tell you how she feels inside or the urgency to piddle. I remember being upset with Sophie because she wouldn't go potty outside at night...now I realize she was scared of the dark. Hindsight is 50/50. Warmly, Deborah __________________ Peace and Light, Deborah My Sweet Sophie 1994-2007Welcome, Charlie Barley 4.14.07 & Sofia Bella 9.13.08 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/535291

12-10-2007, 07:22 PM	#30
yogisdad Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: california Posts: 136	hi Well if I were you, seriously...I would go insane. But here goes on something i would try. You said she had a seizure of some sort...this potty trouble could be a sign of future problems to come in your yorky. Id have the vet on speed dial just in case. Try allowing her to only live in one room by use of gates so she cant get out, id suggest the living room. Set her up an area with her bed and pee pads surrounding it. Have plenty of cleaner around as im sure you already do. Plenty of toys and food and water availible at all times. Try leaving the TV on, there are plenty of dvd's showcasing dogs and only dogs. While you are gone that could help entertain her. Basiclly making her life very comfy and happy. If she goes on her pads then do your good girl thing and if she doesnt just clean it up. Obviously there is some kind of underlying condition. As you do this very very slowly and delicately try to train her like you would just slow it down. I feel for you and your yorkie and hope all gets better but id just try to take all of the stress out of your life and her life. This should help you out but like all good things, it will take time.