yorkie boy wanted

[Yorkiedreams]

I also meant to add...I have been in dogs for over 27 years...I have been blessed by breeders I have bought from who have been happy to help and pass on wisdom and can say that they are now firm friends, with the same ideals. We are not 'precious' about knowledge and if people ask we answer honestly! I now Judge, Newfies and Working Breeds mainly and even after 27 years am STILL learning! Sometimes I believe that if you are deeply caring and sincere it has a way of letting the Breeders you buy from appreciate that...they tend to see through most bull!!

All the best, Dawn (I am both Newfiedreams and Yorkiedreams!)

[MRS H]

Originally Posted by alona1

Everybody has to start somewhere and learn how to do things themselves!

It really annoys me cos when I was looking for a puppy I was ringing round breeders and I knew nothing, not a thing and I had never owned a dog before! And I had 2 breeders even hang up on me when I was asking them questions - just for the fact that I was asking questions!

When I did eventually find a normal human being who knew that not everyone knows everything straight away - she was happy to answer my questions and let me call round to visit the puppies several times before we picked one! Whilst in the meantime I was finding out/reading what info I could to help me - she even gave me a book about Yorkshire Terriers!

It sounds to me that Mrs H actually ensures her pups go to a good home.

thanks for the vote of confidence i needed that i have a little boy now he has 14 champions in his pedigree mostly Ozmillion might i add i do not breed willy nilly and might i point out my parents have bred dogs for over 20 years so i have plenty of good advice when i ask for it from them and also the lovely ladies on this site, i also forgot to add when i sell a pup i offer that if there is any probs or a change of circumstances where they cannot keep them to always come back to me and never pass them on from pillar to post.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedreams

Lorraine I agree entirely and made the same points myself in earlier posts!!

Whoops, I guess I didn't see it.
Oh well, maybe someone will read what we said and learn by it, avoid our mistakes.
I sure wish I knew 20years ago what I know now though.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by MRS H

thanks for the vote of confidence i needed that i have a little boy now he has 14 champions in his pedigree mostly Ozmillion might i add i do not breed willy nilly and might i point out my parents have bred dogs for over 20 years so i have plenty of good advice when i ask for it from them and also the lovely ladies on this site, i also forgot to add when i sell a pup i offer that if there is any probs or a change of circumstances where they cannot keep them to always come back to me and never pass them on from pillar to post.

Good that you do. However, I still cannot fathom why in the world you ever posted on this forum looking for a male to use for stud or to buy?
As I am involved in the show world here in Canada, Iknow many of the breeders in Canada and US, I know exactly who I want to approach and who to avoid, for a stud service or if I wish to buy a dog. I never ever would put ads anywhere in the paper or Internet looking for dogs to breed nor do I ever sell puppies in this manner.
Excuse me if I have read something wrong here, but in this manner of finding breeding stock is usually not quite the way many show breeders I respect would go about it.
I have built my line from very nice dogs that breeders have shown to championships but I also show my dogs too. My pedigrees therefore, have champions in them that I put on my own dogs myself as well as the Champions that sired my show dogs.

[MRS H]

i put the original post out because i felt that many people on this site loved the breed and maybe could help me find a suitable little boy i would not have bought a dog that i could not check on first i have also spoken to the breeder of this boy many times so i would be sure i was being responsible and i am definatly not a puppy farmer i find this very hurtful i have 2 bitches who i have allowed to have a litter each this year i will not let them just keep getting pregnant and churning out pups i love my dogs much more than money believe me.

[Yorkiedreams]

Originally Posted by MRS H

i put the original post out because i felt that many people on this site loved the breed and maybe could help me find a suitable little boy i would not have bought a dog that i could not check on first i have also spoken to the breeder of this boy many times so i would be sure i was being responsible and i am definatly not a puppy farmer i find this very hurtful i have 2 bitches who i have allowed to have a litter each this year i will not let them just keep getting pregnant and churning out pups i love my dogs much more than money believe me.

Yes...BUT the point is that reputable breeders do not NEED to post on sites looking for mates! I know exactly which line of breeding I want to follow when I breed...usually with the advice from my friend and mentor...and to be honest the fact that they have Ozmillion in their lines is neither here nor there...most of the quality dogs that Mr Osman breeds he keeps for himself! He has a very very nice boy in the ring at the moment, which I believe he imported?

[MRS H]

sorry i dont think i was discusing this with you again you have jumped in with your opinions i will put you on my ignore list

[Yorkiedreams]

Sorry, I didn't realise that having advice from someone who you insulted was in any way a no-no? If anything I should have put YOU on the ignore list! Like I said...I have every right to post on these boards as and when I like...I haven't broken the terms of service...which I suspect you have, with your very mature name-calling! If you don't want to enter into a discussion on a public board then DON'T POST YOUR BUSINESS ON HERE!!!

[MRS H]

when i want advice i will ask for it ! i didnt ask you for any advice.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by MRS H

i put the original post out because i felt that many people on this site loved the breed and maybe could help me find a suitable little boy i would not have bought a dog that i could not check on first i have also spoken to the breeder of this boy many times so i would be sure i was being responsible and i am definatly not a puppy farmer i find this very hurtful i have 2 bitches who i have allowed to have a litter each this year i will not let them just keep getting pregnant and churning out pups i love my dogs much more than money believe me.

I am not quite sure you quite get it. What I am saying is that if you are going to breed, you really do need to know all about the background of both sire and dam. The way to do this is to get involved in the show world, meet the breeders, learn about them and their dogs, see how their dogs do in the show rings, learn as much as you can about those lines that are in the pedigrees of any dog or bitch you are considering buying.
You already have two females that you are breeding for example. How much do you really know about them? No, don't answer me, ask yourself that question.
I had started out with one bitch I bought. I knew the breeder she came from had followed the breeder's 'career' via the Yorkshire Terrier Magazine published in California. I also talked to other breeders. I knew an excellent show breeder here in my area, knew her track record as well as that of her dogs. She agreed to a stud service on my bitch. I did the same thing as I moved ahead in my generations improving my dogs steadily as I went.
Fast forward 10 years. I needed some new bloodlines, I knew a breeder here that I had learned had a very nice male she was likely interested in placing. I bought him. I knew the breeder here, knew the lines behind my new boy also knew what he could produce as he had litters on the ground.
This summer I bought another boy from a breeder in Canada that I have known of for many years, know her track record, know her dogs and a lot of her kennel was in the first boy I bought.
Any breeder you buy from especially if you are in England and you are buying over here in North America, can tell you anything. Their websites can tell you anything. All I am saying is be careful you could find out the hard way you have been had.
As I said before it is great if you are willing to stand behind any puppies you sell. However, I have seen breeders that did not or could not really check out the people they dealt with when buying dogs only to find out there were genetic issues that cropped up later in their breeding and although it didn't happen here in Canada it was in the US that a certain breeder got audited by the AKC doing DNA and was found that a certain sire could not have sired a certain litter that was on the paperwork. What happens then is that all the generations after gets their registrations pulled.
This sort of thing can happen not just in AKC , can happen in Canada, CKC and certainly pretty much anywhere.

[Yorkiedreams]

WHO SAID THAT??? haha

I thought you were ignoring me...and you DID post asking for advice...you just didn't like the advice you got!!! Talk about picky!

[MRS H]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I am not quite sure you quite get it. What I am saying is that if you are going to breed, you really do need to know all about the background of both sire and dam. The way to do this is to get involved in the show world, meet the breeders, learn about them and their dogs, see how their dogs do in the show rings, learn as much as you can about those lines that are in the pedigrees of any dog or bitch you are considering buying.
You already have two females that you are breeding for example. How much do you really know about them? No, don't answer me, ask yourself that question.
I had started out with one bitch I bought. I knew the breeder she came from had followed the breeder's 'career' via the Yorkshire Terrier Magazine published in California. I also talked to other breeders. I knew an excellent show breeder here in my area, knew her track record as well as that of her dogs. She agreed to a stud service on my bitch. I did the same thing as I moved ahead in my generations improving my dogs steadily as I went.
Fast forward 10 years. I needed some new bloodlines, I knew a breeder here that I had learned had a very nice male she was likely interested in placing. I bought him. I knew the breeder here, knew the lines behind my new boy also knew what he could produce as he had litters on the ground.
This summer I bought another boy from a breeder in Canada that I have known of for many years, know her track record, know her dogs and a lot of her kennel was in the first boy I bought.
Any breeder you buy from especially if you are in England and you are buying over here in North America, can tell you anything. Their websites can tell you anything. All I am saying is be careful you could find out the hard way you have been had.
As I said before it is great if you are willing to stand behind any puppies you sell. However, I have seen breeders that did not or could not really check out the people they dealt with when buying dogs only to find out there were genetic issues that cropped up later in their breeding and although it didn't happen here in Canada it was in the US that a certain breeder got audited by the AKC doing DNA and was found that a certain sire could not have sired a certain litter that was on the paperwork. What happens then is that all the generations after gets their registrations pulled.
This sort of thing can happen not just in AKC , can happen in Canada, CKC and certainly pretty much anywhere.

thank you for your advice which i take onboard because you have not spoken down to me or lectured me like i am some awful puppy farmer i am beginning to feel like cruella devvil i really am.

[Yorkiedreams]

Originally Posted by MRS H

thank you for your advice which i take onboard because you have not spoken down to me or lectured my like i am some awful puppy farmer i am beginning to feel like cruella devvil i really am.

Guess I'm not on your Christmas list then??

[Highlans]

Originally Posted by MRS H

i put the original post out because i felt that many people on this site loved the breed and maybe could help me find a suitable little boy i would not have bought a dog that i could not check on first i have also spoken to the breeder of this boy many times so i would be sure i was being responsible and i am definatly not a puppy farmer i find this very hurtful i have 2 bitches who i have allowed to have a litter each this year i will not let them just keep getting pregnant and churning out pups i love my dogs much more than money believe me.

Am I wrong did maggie/mags not have two litters this year May and December?

[Yorkiedreams]

Originally Posted by Highlans

Am I wrong did maggie/mags not have two litters this year May and December?

Watch it or YOU'LL end up on the ignore list too!!! LOL That makes three of us that are of the same mind and opinion about breeding...not just me then!?