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06-08-2007, 09:07 AM | #46 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: N. California
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They find homes for unwanted pets every day. I truly feel that the Humane Society is a God send. They are the only ones that I know of trying to stop puppy mills. I will forever be thankful to them for the difference they have made for ALL animals. In fact, it really bothers me when anyone puts them down or says false things about them. I think most will agree that more needs to be done to protect all dogs, purebred or not. The mixed breeds are being put to death because no one wants them and the purebreds are under attack by greedy people who want to make a quick buck, so they'll get like 200 hundred yorkies ( I have even heard up to 500, in a kennel in Texas) and put them all in rabbit cages and breed the heck out of them. Not to mention that puppies are being imported from all over the world ( In my experience, mostly in Korea) and sold here in the US, I dont even want to think about the parents living conditions out of the country were there are no regulations. So I say again, These dogs need protection from the filth of this world. Dogs are supposed to be mans best friend, right. So how can we let these things happen to them? Something needs to be done. This law may or maynot be the solution. But who knows it could be the start. I find it hard not to support something that is supposedly for the animals. Last edited by proudyorkiemom; 06-08-2007 at 09:09 AM. | |
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06-12-2007, 04:55 PM | #47 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California
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| Sorry ... I know this is long, but I thought you might want to read the exact bill... UPDATES FROM THE ANIMAL COUNCIL June 6, 2007 (Last publication date5/30/07 Appropriate forwarding encouraged.) Preserving Our Right ToOwn And Breed Animals Is Your Responsibility IN THIS ISSUE: * CA AB1634 (LEVINE/NAVA/PADILLA/SOLARIO) PASSES ASSEMBLY 41-38 * CA AB 1634MAY 31 AMENDED TEXT THE ANIMAL COUNCIL'S web site athttp://www.theanimalcouncil.com is updated frequently supplementingadvocacy information through these Updates with new and expandedfeatures. 2007 California bill information for each bill we trackwith links to key documents, contact information for legislators andmore: http://www.theanimalcouncil.com/CA20...YNOTED SB 969 authored by Senator Sam Aanestad (R-3) of Grass Valleyand sponsored by the California Veterinary Medical Association wasamended again on May 30 to only allow until January 1, 2012, aRegistered Veterinary Technician or unregistered assistant toadminister drugs, including controlled substances but not anesthesia,under either direct or indirect supervision of a licensedveterinarian when done pursuant to the order, control, and fullprofessional responsibility of a licensed veterinarian. The originalbill would have relaxed the licensing standards for out-of-stateveterinarians but these provisions were opposed by the CaliforniaVeterinary Medical Board. SB 969 passed the Senate on consent andmoves on to the Assembly. ***** CA AB 1634 (LEVINE, NAVA; SEN.PADILLA), the "California Healthy Pets Act" passed the Assembly Floorwith the bare minimum 41 affirmative votes and 38 noes after the callwas lifted tonight at 10:15 p.m. following a morning vote of only 37ayes and 34 noes. Author Levine had promised objecting Democratsadditional amendments in the Senate this morning and continuedlobbying efforts throughout the day to secure the additional 4 votesneeded for passage. There is still no indication of provision forfuture review or sunset, standards of local accountability or dueprocess provision for appeal of local agency denial of intactpermits. AB 1634 will move on to the Senate and then to the SenateRules Committee for assignment to a policy committee. AB 1634 waslast amended on May 31 in the Assembly to read currently: THE PEOPLEOF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. This actshall be known and may be cited as the California Healthy Pets Act.SEC. 2. Chapter 9 (commencing with Section 122336) is added to Part 6of Division 105 of the Health and Safety Code, to read: CHAPTER 9.SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM FOR CATS AND DOGS Article 1. Definitions122336. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions shallapply: (a) "Intact permit" means a document issued annually by a local jurisdiction or its local animal control agency if authorized toissue these permits, that authorizes a person to own or possesswithin that locality an unaltered cat or dog and meets therequirements of subdivision (a) of Section 122336.2. A dog or catlicense that meets the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section122336.2 shall be considered a permit for purposes of this chapter.(b) "Local animal control agency" means the municipal or countyanimal control agency or other entity responsible for enforcinganimal-related laws. (c) "Local jurisdiction" means any city, county,or city and county. (d) "Spay or neuter" means any procedure, asperformed by a duly licensed veterinarian, that permanentlysterilizes an animal and makes it incapable of reproduction. Article2. General Provisions 122336.1. (a) Subject to subdivision (c), aperson shall not own or possess within the state any cat or dog overthe age of four months that has not been spayed or neutered, unlessthat person possesses an intact permit, as defined in subdivision (a)of Section 122336. (b) Subject to subdivision (c), any person whoviolates subdivision (a) shall, for each animal for which a violationhas occurred, be subject to a civil penalty of five hundred dollars($500). This penalty shall be imposed in addition to any other civilor criminal penalties imposed by the local jurisdiction. (c) If anowner of a cat or dog provides a letter from a California licensedveterinarian indicating that due to age, poor health, or illness, itis unsafe to spay or neuter the cat or dog and that arrangements havebeen made to spay or neuter the cat or dog within 75 days from thedate the cat or dog reaches the age of four months, and the owner hashis or her cat or dog spayed or neutered within that 75 day period,the owner shall not be in violation of this act. (d) Any civilpenalty imposed under subdivision (b) may be waived, in whole or inpart, by the local jurisdiction if the person in violation providesverification that his or her cat or dog has been spayed or neutered.(e) Any person who is in possession of any document issued by thelocal jurisdiction or its authorized local animal control agency thatpermits the owner to possess an unaltered cat or dog shall be deemedin compliance with this act until the document expires or January 1,2009, whichever occurs first. Article 3. Permits 122336.2. (a) Alocal jurisdiction shall issue an intact permit, as defined insubdivision (a) of Section 122336, if the owner provides sufficientproof, as determined by the local jurisdiction or its authorizedlocal animal control agency, that any of the following conditions aremet: (1) The owner demonstrates, by providing a copy of his or herbusiness license and federal and state tax number, or by other proof,as required by the local jurisdiction or its authorized local animalcontrol agency, that he or she is doing business and is licensed as abreeder at a location for which the local jurisdiction or itsauthorized local animal control agency has issued a breeder license.(2) The owner's cat or dog is a valid breed that is recognized by anapproved registry or association, and complies with at least one ofthe following: (A) His or her cat or dog is used to show or competeand has competed in at least one legitimate show or sportingcompetition hosted by, or under the approval of, a recognizedregistry or association within the last two years, or by whateverproof is requested by the local jurisdiction or its authorized localanimal control agency that the cat or dog is being trained to show or compete and is too young to have yet competed. (B) The cat or dog hasearned, or if under three years old, is in the process of earning, aconformation, obedience, agility, carting, herding, protection,rally, sporting, working, or other title from an approved purebredregistry or association. (3) The owner is a legitimate breeder ofworking dogs, or is supplying dogs for training as working dogs tolaw enforcement, fire agencies, or legitimate professional orvolunteer private sector working dog organizations. (4) The dog isbeing raised, groomed, socialized, or otherwise prepared for dutiesas a legitimate working dog. (5) The dog is being actively used bylaw enforcement, fire agencies, or legitimate professional orvolunteer private sector working dog organizations for lawenforcement, fire service, search and rescue, or medical serviceactivities. (6) The owner of a cat or dog provides a letter to thelocal jurisdiction or its authorized local animal control agency froma California licensed veterinarian stating that due to age, poorhealth, or illness, it is unsafe to spay or neuter the cat or dog.This letter shall include the veterinarian's license number andshall, if this information is available, include the duration of thecondition of the dog or cat, and the date by which the dog or cat maybe safely spayed or neutered. (b) An unaltered cat or dog for which anintact permit was issued who ceases to meet the requirements ofsubdivision (a) is subject to the spay and neuter requirements setforth in Section 122336.1. (c) (1) The amount of the fee for an intactpermit shall be determined by the local jurisdiction, and shall be nomore than what is reasonably necessary to fund the administration ofthat jurisdiction's intact permit program. (2) A local jurisdictionshall waive the intact permit fee for an unaltered cat or dog thatmeets any of the requirements described in paragraphs (3) to (5),inclusive, of subdivision (a), and the provisions of subdivision (f)and may waive all or part of the intact permit fee for an unalteredcat or dog meeting the requirements of paragraph (6) of subdivision(a). (3) Any fee assessed by a local jurisdiction pursuant to thischapter shall not be duplicative of any other local fee in thatjurisdiction. (d) Nothing in this section shall prohibit a localjurisdiction from adopting or enforcing a more restrictive spay orneuter program pursuant to Section 122331, provided that the programallows for a cat or dog to be temporarily or permanently exemptedfrom a spay or neuter requirement for the reasons set forth inparagraphs (3) to (6), inclusive, of subdivision (a), or theprovisions of subdivision (f). (e) Any owner of a cat or dog who isnot a resident of California shall be exempted from the permitrequirements set forth in this chapter if the owner provides proof,as determined by the local jurisdiction or its authorized localanimal control agency, that the cat or dog is temporarily inCalifornia for training, showing, or any other legitimate reason
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06-12-2007, 04:55 PM | #48 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California
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| Sorry..I had to split it...too long. .(f) (1) Any individual or organization breeding animals for servicesprovided by guide dogs, signal dogs, or service dogs, as defined insubparagraph (C) of paragraph (6) of subdivision (b) of Section 54.1of the Civil Code, shall be presumptively entitled to an intactpermit issued pursuant to this chapter. (2) Any animal possessed byany individual with a disability protected by the federal Americanswith Disabilities Act shall be exempt from the provisions of thischapter if the animal is providing guide dog, service dog, or signaldog services, as defined in subparagraph (C) of paragraph (6) ofsubdivision (b) of Section 54.1 of the Civil Code. (3) Guide dog,signal dog, and service dog programs licensed by the State ofCalifornia are exempt from all of the provisions of this chapter.Article 4. Funding 122336.3. (a) (1) Any civil penalty collectedpursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 122336.1 shall be used forfunding the administration, outreach, and enforcement activities setforth in Article 5 (commencing with Section 122336.4). (2) To theextent that funding is available pursuant to this chapter, a localanimal control agency shall establish a free and low- cost spay andneuter program for low-income individuals. The agency shall undertakeoutreach efforts to inform qualified persons about these programs.(b) All permit fees collected pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section122336.2, shall be used for funding the administration of the permitprogram in the local jurisdiction in which the permits are issued.Article 5. Enforcement 122336.4. A local animal control agency shallbe responsible for enforcing, conducting outreach efforts inconnection with, and administering, this chapter. SEC. 3. Noreimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 ofArticle XIII B of the California Constitution because a local agencyor school district has the authority to levy service charges, fees,or assessments sufficient to pay for the program or level of servicemandated by this act, within the meaning of Section 17556 of theGovernment Code. SEC. 4. This act shall become operative on April 1,2008. ***** *a service of THE ANIMAL COUNCIL, P.O. BOX 168, MILLBRAECA 94030 Contact us at <TheAnimalCouncil@aol.com> URL<http://www.theanimalcouncil.com> Incorporated 1991, tax exempt underIRC Section 501(c)(4) Online news updates published sporadically since1997. Legislative tracking subject to change. Find your own CAlegislators http://192.234.213.69/lmapsearch/framepage.asp-- Diane JonesLegislative Liaison Channel City Kennel Club and Dachshund Club of California
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06-12-2007, 04:57 PM | #49 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,511
| My vet would not neuter Conner until he was 6 months. I also would have paid the fine until it was safe for him.
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07-09-2007, 08:55 PM | #50 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N. California
Posts: 1,316
| Vote NO, NO, NO, NO, NO
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07-19-2007, 09:00 AM | #51 |
My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca.
Posts: 12,228
| FINALLY, we are getting some protection for our dogs, especially when it comes to BYB and millers. I just hope we can now hire enough people to enforce it. It all looks good on paper, but unfortunately it won't stop the excess and unethical breeding practices. We all now can do our part and report anyone we see with a backyard full of cages with dogs in them. |
07-19-2007, 09:55 AM | #52 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
Posts: 14,776
| Not as simple as that. The BYBers and puppy millers can afford to pay the fine. The bill was pulled. What it will affect is small hobby ethical breeders....as well as dog shows, etc. AKC had an alternative venue for Eukanuba that is scheduled for Long Beach, CA. Eventually this bill will do away with pets as we know them today.
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07-19-2007, 10:04 AM | #53 |
Always In My Heart Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 3,393
| My biggest CON would be what if the puppy is too small in weight to get fixed? Then it goes under and doesnt come out... what then? I guess I am partial to this because of my Gizmo he is soo little at 2 yrs old and barely 4lbs I am too scared to put him under and him not come out... nothing in life can be guaranteed but this is just unfair in this sense... |
07-19-2007, 10:20 AM | #54 | |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N. California
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__________________ Candee, Bear, Daizy (in spirit, R.I.P) and Pepsi's mommy | |
07-19-2007, 10:55 AM | #55 |
Slave to Max 'n Abbie Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 1,529
| My vet wouldn't spay Abbie or neuter Max until they were at least 6 months old. He's been practicing for over 40 years so I believe he KNOWS what he is talking about. Fortunately, I have teapots so they were not ultra tiny when they were spayed/neutered at 6 months.
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07-19-2007, 01:13 PM | #56 | |
My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca.
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We do need to lobby against the NUMBER of non-spayed female dogs so we can shut the millers down. | |
07-19-2007, 01:52 PM | #57 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
Posts: 14,776
| Kennel Clubs and others have put together a new orginization PetPac to contribute against this bill. The bill in itself had many holes in it. Numbers within the bill were incorrect, as far as number of dogs euthinized....the number was based on stray cats. Similar laws have gone into affect in other parts of California and statistics reveal the $$$$$ & euthinization numbers have gone up. So, AB 1634 as it stands today would not accomplish what it says it suppose. AB 1634 had PETA and other Animal Rights Activist behind it all with a hidden agenda.
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07-20-2007, 10:39 PM | #58 | |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N. California
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__________________ Candee, Bear, Daizy (in spirit, R.I.P) and Pepsi's mommy | |
07-21-2007, 05:40 AM | #59 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
Posts: 14,776
| I've just moved back to California and intrestingly enough this being a progressive state. The land of high tech, higher income, etc. I've witness more people here that haven't a clue about pet responsibility. I see dogs running the streets, being unfed, full of fleas and ticks. Just the basics not being taken care of. These are the people that bills should be aimed at. Do todays laws cover this, they should. But, if you report an animal cruelty act to the right departments, do the act upon it, NO! So, a bill such of this isn't going to solve the problem. BY the way HSUS is different from the local Humane Societies. They are not devoted to saving animals, they do not own or contribute to Animal Shelters. They are Animal Rights Activists not Animal Welfare.
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07-21-2007, 07:12 AM | #60 |
Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida
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| I think it's a good idea if they can enforce it. There are too many dogs in shetlers that land up PTS. Maybe we will be charged for pups, but maybe not, because breeders are still wanting to sell their pups. |
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