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04-11-2007, 05:09 AM | #16 |
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| So doe sthat mean that if you have a pet that is not spayed you can not bring them to Cali on a vacation? I'm not sure I understand. |
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04-11-2007, 05:10 AM | #17 |
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| I'm really not sure what to think. I know something, somehow, should be done but how are they going to monitor every person who owns a dog when they can't even find criminals? Sounds like Big Brother is getting closer and closer.
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04-11-2007, 05:11 AM | #18 | |
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04-11-2007, 05:14 AM | #19 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Exactly what it means..... visit the akc website, there is more info on the bill
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04-11-2007, 05:16 AM | #20 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Yes, I do. It will not stop the millers or dog wholesalers...they have the money to pay the fees, they breed to sell dogs for big bucks. The bill will have a major impact on the small hobby breeder/dog fancier, but won't touch the miller or dog wholesellers. I mean that those coming in from other states will not be able to travel there if there dogs are not altered.....
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04-11-2007, 05:17 AM | #21 |
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| Forgive me for sounding ignorant here but I dont know much (really nothing) about dog shows. Are all the dogs in the shows not spayed or neutered? Is that a rule that they cant be to be show dogs? |
04-11-2007, 05:19 AM | #22 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| All dogs that are showed at conformation events are intact. The whole purpose of a dog show is to gain approval of your breeding stock.
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04-11-2007, 05:21 AM | #23 |
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| ok I see. Thanks you. And here I thought of it as a "my doggy is better looking than yours" type of event. |
04-11-2007, 05:23 AM | #24 | |
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Well when you look it at that way....it's an kind of good way of putting it. But, seriously you're asking the judge to evaluate your dog, against the standard.
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04-11-2007, 05:33 AM | #25 | |
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04-11-2007, 06:24 AM | #26 |
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| 4 months is much too young. Think of all the breeders out there who evalute a pup for up to a year before decided if they are breeding quality. And that is just one scenario. Angel is 5.5 months and I'm not even thinking about spaying yet. I want to wait till more like 7-8 months to make sure we don't need to have another appointment for pulling teeth. While I agree in principle that something needs to be done to stop puppy mills and needless widespread euthanasia of unwanted animals, I really don't think this will do it. After all, pets are supposed to be licensed as well and how many do you know that don't do that?!!
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04-11-2007, 06:42 AM | #27 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | i believe in highly with spay & neuter i dont see unless your dog is amazing quality it should be breed but i hope they will allow a letter from the vet saying it cant be done til there older for the smaller ones im sure they will understand i think the bill is a great idea i hope it comes here !! |
04-11-2007, 07:11 AM | #28 |
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| I guess there is no clear cut answer. As someone else posted, responsible pet owners will comply. They seem to be the ones complying anyway. I used to live in a neighborhood and there was only one neighbor who allowed her cat to run free. I would see him periodically. Now my Mom's neighborhood is full of cats running free. Most I would assume are not fixed. Real common for that neighborhood. If that bill were passed in her state I can't see all those neighbors suddenly scooping up their cats and going in to be fixed. Goes back to responsible pet ownership. I don't have any of my girls fixed. Just my male Chin to avoid unplanned babies. My Malinois isn't fixed either, he is Schutzhund titled.
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04-11-2007, 07:15 AM | #29 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| Remember there are two sets of organizations One Animal Rights; PETA, HSUS, the ones that have introduced this bill and wanting to do away with all pet ownership....and they will succeed if we don't arm ourselves with knowledge. #2. Animal Welfare groups that are fighting for the welfare and proper care of animals....this is where our donations should be going to.
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04-11-2007, 07:42 AM | #30 |
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| I will do more research into this, but why would poeple want to stop all pet ownership? I do believe there are certain people that should not be allowed to have pets ( I believe some should not have children as well). BUt why would you stop pet ownership all together? |
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