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ok her goes i bought my little girl dixie from pam and yorkieforever bought her two sister well threw the last couple of days we have been talking about the 3 girls and we were both under the the inpression that she only breeds yorkies and nothing else well threw searches and research we found that she raises yorkiepoos brussells and yorkies when i bought my girl she was supposed to be the only girl in the litter and she was going to be show quality which dixie is a very nice pup but i found out there was 4 in her litter and she was the smallest of them all her two sisters are 4.5 and 5 pounds at 17 weeks and dixie is 2.6 at 17 weeks so i do not believe she will be big enough to show i could not understand why pam would not let me go to her home to see the parents but threw a year of talking with her she won my trust and so i took her word for everything dixie has a nice pedigree etc but i am kind of distrubed at the fact that she said only bred yorkies and that they are kept inside which alot of us do if we have a small amount so nothing to worry about yorkiesforever checked vet ref and other ref on her and it checked out but we discorvered she is shipping at 8 weeks these little babies and that she is breeding a champion sired male to a poodle(redflag to me) by her webpages she has over 30+dogs if they are all kept inside i understand why she would not let me come to her home i am not saying she is a bad person but i feel decived again your word is only as good as you are what i dont understand is the champion sired male she is using for breeding to a poodle is our puppies father and was bought from prestigeaus yorkies who i believe is an upstanding show kennel and i just dont feel right about keeping dixie if she gets big enough to show or breed to my champion male(doubtfull) that i want her lines to be associated with mixed breed yorkiepoo's i know that may seem petty but i know feel as thow pam is running a byb or mill with as many dogs as she has for breeding i would love to hear what others think and if anyone else has gotten her dogs and is wrong how i now feel and yorkiesforever feels

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this is dixie

and this is her sisters

paris first 2 pic london 2nd set they look so different i know they can but its weird to us

Is Dixie the pup that you thought she would be? Is she of good health and excellent temperment? I wouldn't let the actions of her breeder dissuade you from showing her. Take her to a puppy match and see how she does. Let the judges be the ones to tell you whether or not she's of good quality for breeding. Just because the breeder is conducting herself in a way that you don't approve of doesn't diminish Dixie's quality. If you don't approve of the breeders conduct don't purchase from her again but enjoy Dixie anyway.

that would be fine but she is very tiny and i dont think she will cut the mustard in the ring to small for a show girl if i had been told she was the runt i may not have bought her even as a puppy she is just really little
to put in a puppy match

You may have to rehome her if she's just too small to show or breed. It's such a disappointment, I know I've been there. It's really hard to find a good showgal, I've been looking for some time. Good luck

thank you and if i am wrong about this breeder i will say i am wrong
i just want to know why she sold her to me knowing she was the smallest in the litter and that i wanted a 5 pound girl to show

How big was she when you purchased her? How old was she?

well she told me she was 10 weeks she was not just barley 9 hardly no teeth she keep telling me she would be 4.5 to 5 but never would give a weight so when i got home i weighed her and she was about 1.4 she also shipped yorkiesforever pups at 8 weeks even when she asked her to waite

ok i will retract that she breeds yorkiepoos accidental breeding from what i understand

A show potential pup should never have been sold that early. Even at 6 monthes it's hard to be sure of their potential. Sounds to me like you have good cause to be unhappy. Have you contacted her yet and discussed the issues with her. If nothing else it seems to me that she should reimburse you the difference between what is charged for a pet and a show quality pup. She simply may not know what she is doing yet and should not represent herself as knowledgable. I would contact her and see what she says, it couldn't hurt.

ok pam says that she does not own all the dogs that are on her pages that they are dogs she onced owned ok i could be wrong but i wasnt invited to her house to pick up my pup so just maybe i jumped the gun

Sometimes things are just not what they seem. I hope it's all able to be resolved to everyones satisfaction.

That's even worse. if she doesn't own all those dogs, she is brokering them.

She's not brokering them if she once owned them!

I know of a few people that have bought her puppies and never had any problem with them... Hope everything works out...:)

I really think it should have been discussed in private between the two of them.
I do hope it all resolves quickly for Dixie's sake.
She is a beautiful pup and I am sure will mature into a beautiful girl. And whoever gives her a forever home will be a lucky family.

Wishing both of them the best

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NO I DIDNT SAY SHE WAS BROKERING just asked why she kept so many on her web page if she doesnt own them any more there is no right or wrong here just would like to get this resolved

well dixie should be sold as pet only she is not big enough by her body structure to be bred unless she does a whole lot of growing but she would make a beautiful pet and a loving one for sure but i am hopimg pam gets her back and just keeps her as a pet

Well I know you hate to let the beautiful little girl go...but we all know your wanting to show, so if you had a contract maybe she will do the right thing....good luck and I hope everything works okay...:)

well due to illness in pams family she is not in the postion to buy dixie back which is in our contract for her to do so .so i am still selling her and i have called a truce with pam all this is not worth it

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Again, Rose, I Just Cant See How You Could Have Put All That Crap On Here Tho, Go Back And Read It, What If That Were You?read It From The Start, Also, I Have Not Declined From Taking Her Back,shes Not Grown Yet, I Dont Breed Untill After A Year And Half If I Try It At All, If You Do Not Sell Her, I Will Want Her Back Just Not Right Away, With My Dad In Hospital With Open Heart Surgery And Heart Failure, My Mom With Althimers And Me Having To See Them All Thru This , Its Terrible, And Coming Home ,FROM THE HOSPITAL, I Get Loads Of Emails From Other Readers On Your Thread About You Talking Bad About Me, I Did Nothing To Any Of You, It Hurts Me Deeply, Ill Have A Hard Time Getting Over This, Yes Times Are Hard, And We Cant All Be Doing This To Each Other, Just Think Before You All Write Stuff, Ive Heard Things Over The Years About This Person And That Person, Never Do I Engage In This Type Stuff, Good Breeders Stick Together Thru Bad Times, Not Stabbing Each Other In The Back, Or Going Behind Them To Get s**t Going, Please Do Not Do This, As I Said Before You All Realy Dont Know Me, Dont Judge Me Pam
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ok pam i thought we called a truce and up till now i have done nothing but but speak good of you and my purchase so i would really like to know who said i had been badmouthing you i hardly get on hear yesterday was the first time i have made any kind of conflicting statement and why would i keep dixie for a year or 1/2 yrs i dont know any show or breeding program that would unless she was being kept as a pet only if i know she is going to be to small for show much less breeding i will not breed a girl under 5 pounds under no circumstances hello she is 2.6 pounds at 17 weeks and her sisters are at 4.5 and 5 hmmmmmmm do you really think she is going to get that much bigger she is very small framed
if my contract said i had to buy her back because she could now show or was to small to breed than i would do so and honor my contract i would not make the person waite untill i was ready geez and you are right we dont know each other that well but i dont like not being told my dog was the smallest and givin the chance to turn the sale down as you said you needed the money well i saved a long time to get another dog for SHOW
and now i have to start over which alot of us have had to do plus i dont let my pups go untill they are 12 weeks can you say the same no you shipped someone elses at 8 weeks old is that a good breeder to ship babies so young and how are you such an expert that you were so sure dixie would be a show girl she was to young and that was my bad for buying her that young and i recieved an email from you that said 230 yt members wrote you yesterday and told you i was bad mouthing you thats alot of yt members i never said i had gotten any from yt members look i know we all have hard times now days and money is hard to come by i just expect to get either or for my money and no i did not buy her with the intentions of resale i really love the little dog she is just not going to do what i hoped she would and so again i thought this was done but i will tell you each time you shoot at me i will shoot back and again i am very sorry for you r heart ache at home and hope all goes well for you and your family
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I agree with PrestigeousYT this should have been handled in private.
Dixie is a beautiful girl with a nice ped and from what I saw of the dogs Pam has
or had ...they were all very nice looking dogs.

I know you are disappointed not to have a dog to show
but
Buying a dog before the age of 8 months or older is a really big gamble.
That is why so many show breeders have had to place dogs because they fell apart.
Being Show hopeful or Show Potential is just that.
Meaning the dog may have a possibility of becoming a show dog but it's not guaranteed.

If every breeder had a crystal ball and knew at 8-12 weeks the pup would be a show dog
they would keep the dog.

Also buying a pup with 3 lb sire and 5 lb dam..
being a breeder you know the Pups are more then likely going to
fall somewhere in between those weights...That why breeder don't guarantee weights.
I have seen the smallest pup out of a litter grow up to be the largest.

And IMO
Faulting a breeder for an OOPS and dragging her name through the mud is just WRONG.
Because if that was the case there are many on here that has had some TYPE/Kind of an OOPS at some point in breeding.

Anyways.. It a shame Pam can't buy her back, and I hope she finds a great forever home.

Also good luck to you.. Maybe next time you can find an older pup that more meet your expectations.

well i agree my bad i guess all the way around but when you have a contract that states she will buy pup back and than tells you that you will have to waite untill she is atleast a year and a half so she can see how big she get's whats up with that

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pssss yt members who bad mouthed me as she says step up to the plate and say what you have to i can take it since she got loads of pms lets hear what you had to say really this is between pam and me and i really should not have posted it maybe but i did and there is other issues with another buyer just not myself and the yt members know who they are and so do i
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and i do agree the next will be atleast 6 months old lesson learned

I agree this was not the way to go about if you had a problem with Pam. I think you kinda jump the gun on this one. I could understand if the pup was sick or some other major problem, but size - no one can guarantee that. You know this too. Anytime one buys a pup that is young - you do not know for sure what size or weight it will get to. You did not have to purchase this pup when you did. When you buy a pup - you hope things work out, but there is never any guarantee.
I bought a pup from Pam a couple of years ago and could not be happier. She is a doll! In my contract from her it states very clearly that she "makes no warranty on the size, or color upon maturity, or that the buyer will be able to show or breed the dog."
I actually have shown her and she has won some 1st places and against others in her class. Even upon arrival I had her thoroughly checked on and she checked out perfect. Since then I have had a full blood panel done, bile acid test conducted, and her legs checked and all is great. She is very compact, level topline, and very sound. Oh, and what a personality she has. She is very special to us and I could not have been satisfied more.
When I bought my baby from Pam, I was going to drive up to her home and Pam did not mind, she welcomed her home to me. I did end up having her send for her due to timing and not the available time to drive up there to get her, so we just had her shipped instead. But it did not matter to Pam if I shipped or came to her home.
I knew from the start that she had brussells and yorkies and Pam told me right up front. I do think her mom has a poodle.
Well, I just wanted to let you all know that I have had no problem and was very satisfied with my yorkie from Pam.
Here are a few pictures of her.
P.S. Pam still emails me from time to time checking up on how she is doing. That means a lot to me too. :thumbup:
T.

Here is another picture of my baby in the show ring.

T.

Oops - here is the picture.
T.