no im no friend, she wont even sell me a dog
 

hey, we met a year ago, seein her ads i was hopin to get some of the ch, lines shes got, when i went over to her place well, shes got real beauties! all groomed up, ever one of um, we started talking, and i told her i keep mine in an outside kennel, well that was it ,,she woulnd sell one to me then, hers is aall in the house, all dolled up, potty pads all in the rooms, had the rooms done up like a baby nursery!, my, shes got tvs in all her rooms in her house, and a few cages, for the pups , or pup pens ya know, shes got a lot o land there, but she dontwant em outside less shes there, oh they got a play yard and a privicy fense too, and hes got boxes of dog toys in ever room, all of them bringin there favorite toys to me, shes got a nice set up there, and no smell, got a facy air filter andthe high dollar air conditoning, in there, as for they dogs yes , all was heathy, and she got them lil fluffy beds forthem and baby gates up in the rooms, yea shes lovin her dogs ,and its sad to see her done this way, yall was lucky to get one, hes a great gal, just wish shesd sell one to me, mines out in a facy kennel but no , she wants em sleepin in the bed with ya, i cant do that, that girls a germ fanatic, tho, made me take my shoes off and use germ killer on my hands, i know shes lovin her dogs and shes taking them out to work every too, where can you do that, take em to work, she visits the nursin homes and lets the old folksget lovin from these too, she dont have nothin but thumbs up , from me, jim

well i know the truth you do NOT Have my dog ..freind of pams or not
i got a bad one and yes it happens and yes prest has nice dogs and so does belinda but this does not relect on them you brought there names into this thread no is speaking bad of them things do happen
and it is not there fault and no one is faulting there dogs so back you self up alittle there dogs are not the problem Pams breeding practices and selling pups to young to unspecting buyers and on and on and on and just having good lines does not make you a good breeder the lines are only as good as the person breeding them and selling them were you just on fondas b--------- her out so what makes you a knowledgeable breeder do you show how many dogs do you have how long have you been breeding
and i just think it is funny that all the sudden you can out of the wood work:animal-pa and you live in the louisville area and i know for a fact that 4 buyers were not allowed to go to pams to see the parents i let people come to my house i have nothing to hide. and explain dwarfism to me so you know so much about it and if you a show breeder you need to learn to explain better and what show have your dogs done

Well this thread is about my dog excuse me and i got to tell ya your funny ya know micheal jackson hates germs too! so what i dont deserve answer:confused:

That kind of comment is uncalled for and will get you banned. You have to admit it seems odd for everyone to have had bad experiences and then all of a sudden you come on here and make her sound like the best breeder in the world. Does it not seem strange that you are the only one who has been allowed to her house? You have no idea what Rose as been through.

I'm appalled at your rudeness. Rose and Dee are two of the nicest people on here and your comments are uncalled for. YOUR POST HAS BEEN REPORTED TO ADMIN.

well dana i feel he is the only one thats been allowed to see the house because he proubly lives there and you are right very uncalled and very unpprofessional and he does not answer qusetions as to how many dogs he has and yes i have a girl getting ready to go into the show ring and yes she was bought from a very nice show kennel and you

maybe its the fact you scared she ll be sellin her dogs , and you think you should get the sell, as far as your dog, its someone elses now right? hear you didnt show up to sell it back after all that babberin you done,and sold it out from under her and you know she wanted her bak too, , your cruel lady, realy ,, that pup was small yes ,she let her go at 9 wks, and you could not wait for the fontnel to grow in, bet sh gets4 to 5 lb after all jim

Yes, I'm curious too. Just who are YOU and what dogs have your shown and bred? Where did you obtain your vast knowledge and experience? Sorry, but you come on here blazing with guns up but some of what you're posted seems a little shall we just say questionable..

Let me post this reminder of why this section is here!


Feel free to review your breeder, groomer or vet. Please note, only post your PERSONAL experience with the breeder, groomer, or veterinarian. This is not a place for heresay or second-hand information. List positives and any negatives, and please let us know when you interacted with them. This forum is also only for Yorkie-related experiences with breeders, groomers, and vets.

well the problem is i would never sell a pup to pam do you know how many emails i could post with her telling me to sell dixie and would you bred her with the font even if she got to 4 pounds do you even know what you are talking about and to tell ya i do not need pams sell she needs her own

Have you even read all of the posts? It was her dog to sell. The reason she didn't show up to sell her back to Pam was because I called her last minute, so it was MY fault that she didn't show up. Blame me for that not her. Rose loves Dixie and wanted her to have a forever home where she would be just like someones daughter and not a money making breeding machine.

She is five months old. It would be extremely rare for her font to close. As for her reaching even 4 lbs, I pray to God that she does but I dare you to find a vet that will tell you that its even a realistic possibility.

BTW, don't ever call Rose cruel. You have no idea how many tears she's shed over this.

i love you to dana your makin me cry thank you:love:

thanks, dana. this person that crawled out from under the woodwork has to have a personal interest. he must not have read and known that this Rose's thread. yes, Rose is my friend and while I don't show (neither does Pam), I do have VERY nice lines and dogs. i have a few pups that have been bought and already in puppy matches. i think my reputation on here and the quality of my pups speaks for itself.

look everone things are as i have reported i would never hurt another breeder intentionaly i know he was very rude but lets keep to the subject please

hi thats what i done jim my experence w that pam was good, lets see, how many out there ever had a good experence with her? jim

ok i do believe in good and bad but so far she is batting -4

hey yall got nice stuff all yall do, jim , hey sorry to sound like i know all

hey whos the 4 tell it? jim

hey this lady pam never made anymoney ,so far shes only bought dogs, this is the first few litters shed , give her a chance to learn, im anold guy, i learned the hard way, just sayin people learn and do better next time

I think the biggest problem with new breeders is they expect to walk right in and set up a breeding program and presto they are producing Show dogs, when they don't even show, I see many people on this list selling dogs to people to be shown and they have never once even walked in the ring and their own breeding stock is purely pet quality at best.
I am new here, but not new to breeding/showing and rescuing, I have seen all sides of it.
I think people really see breeding as I am going to spend X amount of money on my pair and I am going to make X amount from the pups. they see big dollar signs that is their motive. But they invest nothing into their breeding program such as showing which evaluates their breeding stock. They are the ones making the money.
You have to learn to breed, you have to invest and sometimes it doesnt work out the way you thought so you have to go at it from a different angle. Prehaps breeding this male to that female really worked great and produced healthy but breeding him to this one produced pets. So you find your way to another male to try and see what breeding her to a different male does.
Do you really think that the top breeders today did not have their share of dogs they bought did not work for their breeding program and they had to pet out etc. It is an investment of a lot of years and a lot of money spent that you will never see again but a good breeder is in it to better the breed not to cash in on breeding.
That is where the problem today is, people think its a money maker and they want to become producers of Champions and make big bucks.
Ask any show breeder who really has put the years in and the money to be where they are today.
It is no way a money maker. Show weekends wether they show themselves or hire a handler are very costly and the upkeep of the dogs are costly.
Many pet breeders are selling their dogs for the same or more than show breeders do and they have no show expenses and are merely breeding pet dogs with merely pet pedigrees but yet asking huge prices for a pet.

I am shocked at how some people tend to forget all the great dogs that were produced by breeders when something comes up with one of their breedings.
No wonder breeders are afraid to step up and say yes I had this problem and I am breeding away from that. These breeders here that say they have never had a problem, either are so new and have not had enough litters to come across something YET, yes YET because folks, this beautiful breed of ours has many health issues that can and will be seen if you breed enough, and without brave and committed breeders who are willing to take the challenge and breed, we would not have such lovely dogs today because yes they do credit for the good things they do too, don't they??
to crucify people over things that come up is really a shame, these things are in this breed and thats a fact. And aren't we all in this together ? or shouldn't we be? It really does not do a breed any good to have breeders working so hard against each other. You see it all the time and its just a different breeder getting talked about over a problem.
Next year it is likely that the people here who started this thread and have really just kept this whole thing in the spotlight will be on the hot seat themselves, if they happen to have the misfortune and produce a pup with a problem and we all know the chances for that to happen is great.
So I think I would get on with life and take a step back and see what you can do in your own program and let this breeder do the same.
I have seen small dogs with open fonts live a normal life with no dwarfism at all. I would be shocked if this dog has that condition at all. From what I have read and seen pics of this is a dog that has not yet hit her growth spurt. Many time the little ones like her end up to be the biggest one and the bigger pups end up being the smaller ones at adult age.

Have a good night folks and hope you all find success in your own breeding program and learn what breeding truely entails.

TJ

yes i have bought from her
 

vickie here, i bought a dog from her and its the best thing ive ever done,she let me come to her house and we talked for 3 hrs , before she let me have one, its nice there and her dogs all are pets, im not showing nbut hers do look like great dogs, very responsible and caring for her dogs, they all were so beautiful, i realy just wanted another dog, i came along way to get her too, she let me stay the night there at her house so i wouldnt have to drive back thru the night, lexi was potty trained and had everthing for her, all was in order there, i would recomend her to anyone, shes great, i was afraid lexi would miss the other pup but she was fine, i let her sleep with me and my husband and she will wake us if she needs to potty, pam has it so her dogs are in the cener of her life, and shes mothering them to, realy well i think, all of them are spoiled rotten, their eyes sparkle with love for her, and shes a great person far as i can tell, gave me everything she needed free with the baby before i left, my vet loved her checked out perfect too, also pams vet raved on her , i think a vet like hers will tell you anything you need to know, he said sh gets all the tails and other stuff with him and spares no expense on her dogs, she only has a few dogs, even they slept with us while i was there, pam hasnt no children,i believe she loves them alot too bye vicki:)