Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354740)

i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped. I can say we have all made mistakes and i dont want to be held a grudge to because of my mistakes. But dont put her on a higher pedestal making what she did right because its not. If a person would have came on here saying they ship puppies to puppyland everyone would have jumped on the thread saying how bad pet stores are and how what this perosn was doing is wrong. but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie (Post 2354806)

No, and I didn't say that the puppies from Puppy Land are sick. I said the puppies from Seaside are and I can prove it. Can you prove that the dogs that were shipped were hers??? If you take time to read instead of act like a God...ex.."i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped" who made you God...girly

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie (Post 2354806)

No, and I didn't say that the puppies from Puppy Land are sick. I said the puppies from Seaside are and I can prove it. Can you prove that the dogs that were shipped were hers??? If you take time to read instead of act like a God...ex.."i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped" who made you God...girly

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354740)

--- this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2354823)

Now we're making progress. Glad you coming around.

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354828)

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 View Post
i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped. I can say we have all made mistakes and i dont want to be held a grudge to because of my mistakes. But dont put her on a higher pedestal making what she did right because its not. If a person would have came on here saying they ship puppies to puppyland everyone would have jumped on the thread saying how bad pet stores are and how what this perosn was doing is wrong. but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

that is my whole message read the whole thing. the " but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong." is referring to what yall are doing. I said if anyone else came on here and said they did the same thing they would have got pounded on but since glenda is a great breeder and show breeder then yall wont accuse her of doing anything wrong? it wasnt me saying that she didnt do anything wrong lol. good try. dont pick out what you want out of my posts to try to change the truth that she is in the wrong.

reread.

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie (Post 2354841)

WHAT:eek: I can't make out what you are taling about anymore..girly!

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354828)

the " but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong." is referring to what yall are doing. I said if anyone else came on here and said they did the same thing they would have got pounded on but since glenda is a great breeder and show breeder then yall wont accuse her of doing anything wrong?

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354855)

bildo quoted my words the wrong way and i jusified how they actually went and not to pick out my words. that message wasnt for you it was for the person i quoted to. thanks i see i made my point have a great day girls.


im tired of arguing.

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2353804)

Yes, most breeders that SUPPLY THEIR OWN DOGS are not reputable. Glenda is not suppling HER dogs.

Is there a problem with my post???????

Glenda has TOP QUALITY SHOW YORKIES.


Until I have heard BOTH SIDES OF THIS STORY, I will not believe the two that came here ONLY to ruin reputations.

Originally Posted by KarenAnn (Post 2354792)

Originally Posted by topknot (Post 2354560)

Putting the piceces together...

I have done some research on my own and this is what I came up with a Nancy and Sean Silverman that own Captiva Kennels
I think Glenda was decived by this person Nancy Silverman - owner of two places a show kennel and a pet shop. The web site states - they (Nancy and Sean) show their dogs. By looking at the the front page they look very nice. When into the site they have more breeds than I would like - but it is not uncommon for some show people to have several breeds. This is what Glenda probably knew them as - show people with a kennel. No more, no less.
I think when Glenda finally found out the truth later (after shipping the pups) - she was very shocked and surprised. As far as she knew she was a show exhibitor with a kennel and needed pups from another breeder in her area shipped to her.

As far as transporting dogs as a favor - I have brought back a dog from my handler to its owner. I have also had a friend pick up my girl from my handler and bring her to me, since she was dropping hers off to the handler.

As a previous vet tech - when someone comes in for a health certificate in order to have the dog fly - as a technician, I would fill in the information including person that brought the dogs in as owner, not that they were the owner. This is just what we write. Things are happening so fast and we were normally busy - we would just write the name down. So I can see how the vet clinic would have wrote Glenda's name as the owner when she was not. The tech is always responsible for filling out the paperwork at my vets office and then the vet just signs it.

As far as the pet shop name being on the cert. - that can be whited out and changed to say the pet shops name and then rewrote - it is not hard to copy someone's signature. You make a copy of the changed document and then you have a new original with names switched.

I still think that Glenda was lied to and deceived. Glenda is not one to lie - reason why - she just stated the truth and really trusted this Nancy person. A mistake was made and she got trapped into it. I am sure she has learned a very valuable lesson. There are many people out there that believe people for what they say and I am sure she believed this Nancy.
End of story.

Also - people should not get so mad at a person (breeder) when a breeder reduces their amount for a puppy. She may have had the boy awhile and needed to sell him and when a good home came calling she decided to reduce the price. This is not uncommon to happen. The boy may have been growing larger than expected, she may have had to go on a trip and needed to have all puppies find new homes, she may have been sick at the time, whatever ... and when this person called and seemed like she would have given this pup a good - Glenda decided to reduce the price. So do not get mad a Glenda for this and cause more problems - making this more than it is and jumping to conclusions. It is better to search for the whole truth.

Good Advice: One will hear a lot in the show world and you must learn to not trust all you hear and even question the other half you think may be true. There are always two sides to a story as well. If anything had been up wrong with Glenda - it would have been said years ago in the show world and there was nothing.

Reason - I came back on was that I do not like someone pulled through the mud, nailed up and crucified without knowing the full truth about them. It seems like we only have pieces and people were making assumptions - and you know what happens when someone assumes!! Sad to say but true - the Truth is less exciting!

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2354616)

But GB did know where she was shipping to Puppy Land and it is a puppymill which she did admit. Why if she should would never send her own dogs there because puppymills are bad then y would she send someone elses dogs there. I think she would have never did that numerous times if she was worried about her reputation because doing that makes you look bad. I have also contacted glenda about a puppy before but then bought else where instead so i have nothing against her to be writing this. Why are the only people sticking up for her people who have bought dogs from her. I mean its hard to take in it is shocking. Before today i would have contacted her again about available puppies. I love her babies and her website. I would never have thought this but she did admit she ships to puppy mills she didnt state just one time she said from time to time she does this. Its still wrong either way.

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2354951)

I do not have one of Glenda's dogs. Its her well known reputation that is being tarnished by these unfounded accusations. 100% of the facts have not been made clear and if nancy and ree were sooooooooooooooo correct, then why is it that they have not posted their names and addys and phone #?? Or who they work for, for that matter.

Originally Posted by topknot (Post 2354682)

First of all we do not know these documens are truly real or not. A stamp can be copied and names can be changed. Look in the papers about how others have copied money and made purchases with it. Anything can be copied and changes made these days. I just hoped that when this all comes out that it is all a mistake. I try to believe when someone tells me something it is the truth. I can see where she may have believed, that at first, this person was a show exhibitor and owned a kennel and nothing more. I am just trying to make sense of this all. I just hope all this is false!

And it makes me question - Why is no one going after the people on here that over breed, breed to small, breed below the standard, and do not have testing done - etc... This is totally wrong as well! These people are no better than pet shops!! We can almost classify them as small scale puppymills! And then there are people that go on their posts and give them praises as soon as another litter is born is no better. Let's all be truthful!

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2354970)

:thumbup: It seems that all the bybrs on YT jump with glee when something negative and so far, unfounded, comes out about a weel known reputable breeder of many years experience, but look the other way about their own breeding "programs". Very DOUBLE STANDARD

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2355108)

This will be my last post on this thread because I really think that Glenda said it all in her own written words. However, if you really sit back, reread each and every post (with a clear mind....not defensive), you will see just how incredibly sad this is. The breeders that have stood up for Glenda and the fact that she shipped precious puppies to a pet store are yet to even seem slightly sad and/or bothered by this! :( :thumbdown You would rather defend another show breeder's reputation than take a stand for those innocent babies!! Not that it matters, but this has brought tears to my eyes and I am bothered by those of you that have justified Glenda Beaver's actions. She is the human that made the decision to scoop up all of those little babies, place them in kennels, take them to the airport and send them on their way to a PETSTORE. Those of you that have "dedicated" yourselves to this breed (like you say), how can you not even address this...how can you possibly ignore the feelings of these puppies?!

I don't get it!!

Tammy

Originally Posted by ree (Post 2355082)

Who the hell do you think you are talking to?? I have stated my own opinion to what is going on here , just how you have stated yours. period. You don't like it, too bad! Why would I have to post my name, address and phone number ? Can I have yours on here? As for who I work for, my two children and husband.

No one tarnished GB's rep...she did that all by her self. This just keeps going around and around as I have said posts back. we are speaking what we feel is right, or not right. I see by the way you write your posts, you are a repeater and a follower. :thumbdown

Originally Posted by Trixter (Post 2354873)

"Glenda is a great Breeder" This is what Puppy Love said they did. Got full litters from Great Breeders. The Father(of our Madd) was a King Charles Spaniel. We were able to get the name of Kennel/ breeder. My Daughter,Chelsea, has all the paperwork. We went on line, they only had Spaniels listed in there Kennels, no Poodles. We e-mailed for info so she could register Maddy, and never got a reply.
It was Christmas and she had just gone through a pet trauma, and in the mind set of "you get what you pay for," I got her The Madd. There was a guarantee, $500 vet insurance policy, and 1 week return policy.(Like that could ever happen.) We took her to "Their" vet, who knew what to look for in "Their" puppies, and anything she had was taken care of. We had as best an experience as we could have at the time. Would I do it again? No. I would go to a breeder. If I wasn't on this forum, How would I find the breeder?