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bildio 11-29-2008 05:25 PM
Seems like a tag team.

yorkiesonboard 11-29-2008 05:27 PM
hey if ya want the proof I have it of course trying to post it here is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers since it has to be approved by a mod... so I have found away around it, i have uploaded it under my albums and they are public.. so see for yourself

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiesonboard (Post 2353600)
hey if ya want the proof I have it of course trying to post it here is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers since it has to be approved by a mod...
Maybe the mods dont want to post anything that is slanderous! How do I know what you post has not been doctored up? Anyone could have written in her name and addy. Doesnt prove a thing.

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiesonboard (Post 2353600)
hey if ya want the proof I have it of course trying to post it here is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers since it has to be approved by a mod... so I have found away around it, i have uploaded it under my albums and they are public.. so see for yourself
I have the paper work Karen tried to post. Here is it. As I said I do not know Karen or Glenda and have no vested interest. I think this is proof enough. No? Elaine

yorkiesonboard 11-29-2008 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 2353608)
I have the paper work Karen tried to post. Here is it. As I said I do not know Karen or Glenda and have no vested interest. I think this is proof enough. No? Elaine
I too do not know any of them, but hey when ya got these "show Breeders" thinking they are above everyone else and they pull this.. people have a right to know... nothing was doctored up... i think this is proof enough... I have also listed the link under the website info under my profile that way it comes out LARGE

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 05:35 PM
I think this may be a better copy. Elaine

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiesonboard (Post 2353611)
I too do not know any of them, but hey when ya got these "show Breeders" thinking they are above everyone else and they pull this.. people have a right to know... nothing was doctored up... i think this is proof enough... I have also listed the link under the website info under my profile that way it comes out LARGE
I tried to post it bigger. Here it is. I guess people will have to decide for themselves. Elaine.

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 05:42 PM
This still does not prove anything!! Anybody could have gotten ahold of this and wrote Glendas name and addy on it. Is this the best you can do??? The date on the stamp is illedgible and there are no dates for vaccination "given by the breeder".

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2353624)
This still does not prove anything!! Anybody could have gotten ahold of this and wrote Glendas name and addy on it. Is this the best you can do??? The date on the stamp is illedgible and there are no dates for vaccination "given by the breeder".
Glenda earlier on this thread already admitted that she did ship as a favor. As far as being illedgible. It's very clear on my end. It's hard to read here on YT because it originated from WORD and I had to save it as a picture which left it blurry. I tried to clear it up and this was the best I could do. As I've already said I am honest and work hard in rescue. I don't go after anyone unnecessarily and I'm not trying to lynch anyone now. However, I do believe Karen and I'm trying to help her out by posting the form for her. Whether these are Glenda's pups or pups she shipped to the store as a favor for someone it is still wrong. That's all I'm going to say on the matter. Elaine

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 05:48 PM
The date by the way is 1/22/07. Very clear on my original. Elaine

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 06:08 PM
So this is the ONLY piece of "evidence" you have? Has she shipped or delivered for her FRIENDS multiple times? Enough times to need a USDA license? I dont think she is suppling the whole pet store with multiple breeds of puppies! If this piece of so called "evidence" is real, is it a CRIME to help a friend out once?? I bet that you dont know the WHOLE story and you seem Hell bent on ruining a very respected breeder/exhibitor's reputation with a flimmzy teeny tiny piece of so called "evidence" in which any name could have been written in.

yorkiesonboard 11-29-2008 06:14 PM
[quote=yorkiekist;2353667]So this is the ONLY piece of "evidence" you have? Has she shipped or delivered for her FRIENDS multiple times? Enough times to need a USDA license? I dont think she is suppling the whole pet store with multiple breeds of puppies! If this piece of so called "evidence" is real, is it a CRIME to help a friend out once?? I bet that you dont know the WHOLE story and you seem Hell bent on ruining a very respected breeder/exhibitor's reputation with a flimmzy teeny tiny piece of so called "evidence" in which any name could have been written in.[/quote
This will be the last reply on this topic, document was provided and you still want to defend, she shipped 1 pug and 5 little yorkies... her name and addy were on there, why would ANY person ship puppies to a pet store for a friend...LOL yeah right,, believe what ya want,
conversation on my end is done!

CGP 11-29-2008 06:14 PM
So at least there is some evidence on GB doing this......What about the breeders that there is NO evidence on doing Anything wrong and they are Slandered and run down for alot less than this on here?

jrsygal37 11-29-2008 06:20 PM
[QUOTE This will be the last reply on this topic, document was provided and you still want to defend, she shipped 1 pug and 5 little yorkies... her name and addy were on there, why would ANY person ship puppies to a pet store for a friend...LOL yeah right,, believe what ya want,
conversation on my end is done![/QUOTE]

I won't be replying anymore either. I posted what Karen supplied. Not because I'm hell bent on ruining someone's reputation. I just did not think it was fair that Karen was being crusified because she dared to call someone out. The paper is what it is. Whether it was done once or multiple times. The fact is it was done and the fact is it was wrong to do. Good night everyone. Elaine

Sugar's Mom 11-29-2008 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CGP (Post 2353678)
So at least there is some evidence on GB doing this......What about the breeders that there is NO evidence on doing Anything wrong and they are Slandered and run down for alot less than this on here?



Thank you!!!!!!!!

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 06:26 PM
Well if you all can prove that YOU didnt write Glenda's name in than prove it!!
I really dont see any point to any of this. If Glenda only helped her friend out ONE TIME, whats the big deal? Does that make her the scum of the Earth?
So what you are saying is that you will do anything in your power to ruin a persons reputation for helping a friend out ONE TIME! Maybe she did have lack of judgement ONE TIME!
I think we are ALL human here. Hopefully we all have friends and will help them when in need(unless it has to do with breaking the law).
If you dont have any other proof, like MULTIPLE shipments of multiple breeds, then you actually have NOTHING!!

Bye the way, my very good friends have a pet/grooming store!! OMG, now I am scum of the Earth!! Want to dig up some dirt on me?

CGP 11-29-2008 06:32 PM
:) You are so very Welcome, Sugars mom!!! I have been here for a couple years, never posting BUT Reading alot and OVER and OVER I have read many ugly things said about some of the breeders (that with no evidence) had done or was doing ANYTHING wrong, BUT yet they were crusified unjustly....

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 06:33 PM
[quote=yorkiesonboard;2353677]
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2353667)
So this is the ONLY piece of "evidence" you have? Has she shipped or delivered for her FRIENDS multiple times? Enough times to need a USDA license? I dont think she is suppling the whole pet store with multiple breeds of puppies! If this piece of so called "evidence" is real, is it a CRIME to help a friend out once?? I bet that you dont know the WHOLE story and you seem Hell bent on ruining a very respected breeder/exhibitor's reputation with a flimmzy teeny tiny piece of so called "evidence" in which any name could have been written in.[/quote
This will be the last reply on this topic, document was provided and you still want to defend, she shipped 1 pug and 5 little yorkies... her name and addy were on there, why would ANY person ship puppies to a pet store for a friend...LOL yeah right,, believe what ya want,
conversation on my end is done!
Of course you are done!! You succeeded in tarnishing someones reputation!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!:mad:

Susan123 11-29-2008 06:42 PM
Reminds me of the saying "Don't pee on my head and tell me it's raining"

Even if someone didn't want to look at the health certificates, one can look at her post connecting the two when confronted. Puppy Love sells between 65 and 115 (and many more on holidays) dogs a MONTH per their website. Is this not a pet store someone should want to stay away from? She could be her twin sister for all I care. Any breeder (pet or show) knows it's best not to yoke themselves with owners of petshops. Why is it okay to be friends with people who sell so many dogs from a pet store? Those people make me sick, and it should everyone else. Ever heard of puppymills? Supporting a pet store is supporting a puppymill, we hear it all the time.

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 2353718)
Reminds me of the saying "Don't pee on my head and tell me it's raining"

Even if someone didn't want to look at the health certificates, one can look at her post connecting the two when confronted. Puppy Love sells between 65 and 115 (and many more on holidays) dogs a MONTH per their website. Is this not a pet store someone should want to stay away from? She could be her twin sister for all I care. Any breeder (pet or show) knows it's best not to yoke themselves with owners of petshops. Why is it okay to be friends with people who sell so many dogs from a pet store? Those people make me sick, and it should everyone else. Ever heard of puppymills? Supporting a pet store is supporting a puppymill, we hear it all the time.
Please dont lump EVERY pet store into one catagory! My friends had a "mom and pop" pet store and DID NOT BUY from mills or brokers. They had quality puppies and not in huge quantity as the "big box " mall pet stores.

CGP 11-29-2008 06:59 PM
You are right on this Susan123..
Also even if you sent a "friends" dogs The certifacte would NOT be in your name..it would be in "your friends name" why would you even want to be any part of such a BAD thing...ye right...GB messed up her own reputation THINKING no one would ever know about this!!!

ree 11-29-2008 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 2353634)
Glenda earlier on this thread already admitted that she did ship as a favor. As far as being illedgible. It's very clear on my end. It's hard to read here on YT because it originated from WORD and I had to save it as a picture which left it blurry. I tried to clear it up and this was the best I could do. As I've already said I am honest and work hard in rescue. I don't go after anyone unnecessarily and I'm not trying to lynch anyone now. However, I do believe Karen and I'm trying to help her out by posting the form for her. Whether these are Glenda's pups or pups she shipped to the store as a favor for someone it is still wrong. That's all I'm going to say on the matter. Elaine
you can read it perfectly. You can see it is not doctored up, all the same hand writing. Your dammed if you do..your dammed if you don't. There is no winning with some on here. You can post 10 documents on here and it still wouldn't be good enough. Leave it be. No one has to prove any thing more. If people are so hell bent, all the phone numbers are on there...let them call themselves, it's all public records. It is getting very old with "more proof" If they want it, let them go get it. I am getting a feeling a little more is up setting them than the "lack" of proof. :eyeballpc

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 07:06 PM
I sure am glad that EVERYONE on this forum has NO friends have NEVER made a mistake in life!!! Sounds like some people posting on this thread dont you think?

I think that some of you should get off your high horses until you know the 100% truth.

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ree (Post 2353738)
you can read it perfectly. You can see it is not doctored up, all the same hand writing. Your dammed if you do..your dammed if you don't. There is no winning with some on here. You can post 10 documents on here and it still wouldn't be good enough. Leave it be. No one has to prove any thing more. If people are so hell bent, all the phone numbers are on there...let them call themselves, it's all public records. It is getting very old with "more proof" If they want it, let them go get it. I am getting a feeling a little more is up setting them than the "lack" of proof. :eyeballpc
So is this a one time gig or is it multiple times? You are investigating, so what is it?

CGP 11-29-2008 07:12 PM
Seems to me that a Mistake is something you do without knowledge of it being wrong...if do on purpose and with the knowledge it is wrong....hummmmm seems to me this was her choice to do and seems like it is MORE than enough proof.....What about the Breeders that get slandered on her with absolutly NO PROOF of ANY wrong doing???

ree 11-29-2008 07:13 PM
I think that some of you should get off your high horses until you know the 100% truth.[/QUOTE]

and some should also use a little common sense! :D

yorkiekist 11-29-2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ree (Post 2353750)
I think that some of you should get off your high horses until you know the 100% truth.
and some should also use a little common sense! :D[/QUOTE]

And you still did not answer my question: did she ship once or was it multiple times?

CGP 11-29-2008 07:16 PM
:thumbup: common sence!!!:)

Susan123 11-29-2008 07:36 PM
[quote/]And you still did not answer my question: did she ship once or was it multiple times?[/quote]

Sorry, made a mistake quoting.

Page 4, post 55. She supplied the details for multiple shipments. After pressed for proof provided certificate for one shipment. At this point, one is sufficient for me and many others.

CGP 11-29-2008 07:43 PM
here is a Statment by Yorkiekist in her own words posted 11-26-08 about Breeder info. ----- Most breeders that supply pet stores are not reputable and only out to make $$. Some are puppy mills with hundreds of dogs.


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