Do not buy loretta plise yorkies from oakdale !!!!!

[lynzy420]

Slander is impossible on a forum, just sayin. Funny how so many spew the slander threat and yet doesn't even know what it means, legally.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Teegy

I think what I'm understanding is the purchase was to include the vet papers and AKC registration and they didn't come.
So if I'm correct the transaction was not completed (stop cheque) because the entire contract was unfulfilled.
I don't believe this is theft. If I bought a fridge and was to pay in full upon delivery but only half my fridge was delivered I'd be withholding payment too.

Oh and I know a
Lot of really nice people who are the biggest con artist and thieves on the planet. Just saying.
Defend away. Actions speak louder than words.

Yes...but you dont get to KEEP the fridge, free, just because you didnt get all the paperwork....you send the fridge BACK!!!! You either get your money back and the purchase is returned, or you get the paperwork and keep the purchase....but you can NOT have a free fridge because paperwork was missing! You PAY for the product, or you return it for a refund!!!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Yes...but you dont get to KEEP the fridge, free, just because you didnt get all the paperwork....you send the fridge BACK!!!! You either get your money back and the purchase is returned, or you get the paperwork and keep the purchase....but you can NOT have a free fridge because paperwork was missing! You PAY for the product, or you return it for a refund!!!

Exactly

[Teegy]

I think we all have a different approach in this situation.
This person doesn't have any papers yet as outlined in her contract. With it not being a fridge, it being a live creature that you have invested money in caring for it while you wait for the pending paperwork, there should be certain considerations here.

[madpuppymills]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Yes...but you dont get to KEEP the fridge, free, just because you didnt get all the paperwork....you send the fridge BACK!!!! You either get your money back and the purchase is returned, or you get the paperwork and keep the purchase....but you can NOT have a free fridge because paperwork was missing! You PAY for the product, or you return it for a refund!!!

I have to say that I think you are being a bit harsh to ChinaLee here. Please remember who the victims are - ChinaLee and her puppy. You are comparing an inanimate object to a living, breathing soul. A defective piece of equipment, spoiled food, etc. that you return will most likely get thrown in the trash, or repaired and sold "as is". This woman, Loretta or Lori, or whatever her name is, has already proven multiple times that the dogs she sells are merely money in her pocket. The dogs health mean nothing to her. Some of her friends are coming on here saying that she is wonderful and has even given a dog away - maybe she did (but I'd make a healthy wager it was defective in some way), but it is also on record that she has refused to cooperate or live up to her word when customers have come to her with newly purchased sick puppies.

Could you honestly say that you would return a dog, that you love, to her?? She'd most likely send it back to the Oklahoma puppy mill that it came from, or she'd "play doctor" and give it some bogus medication and then pawn it off on the next unsuspecting person who comes along.

This woman, Loretta, is bad news, and she needs to be stopped. While I agree that normally it would be considered wrong to stop payment on an item without returning it, sometimes a person has to struggle with morality, not legality. If it were me in this situation right now, I'd say to Loretta, come and get me. I promise you that she won't. She has much more to lose by calling attention to herself like that.

www.madpuppymills.org

Never breed or buy while millions in shelters die.

[Teegy]

if the fridge is supposed to come with written docs and they didn't arrive darned right I'd hold payment until all parts of the contract are fulfilled by the seller

[chachi]

She said she stopped paynent on other things in the past and got away with it so no wonder she thinks she will this tie also. Its just morally wrong to expect to get somethig for free it also makes it harder for the rest of us Because Busiesses stop taking checks Because people pull this crap

[Teegy]

hey it's illegal to talk on your phone and drive, to be a pedophile or a rapist but people still do it.
These two people will sort out their issues and hopefully we will get to hear the result. I don't see you moaning about the woman selling fungus coated ill dogs on a regular basis but someone stops a cheque, it's the end of the world?

[chachi]

There is a difference in what good decent people do and what uscrupelous people do that includes the Breeder But two wrongs dont make a right

[Teegy]

Originally Posted by madpuppymills

I have to say that I think you are being a bit harsh to ChinaLee here. Please remember who the victims are - ChinaLee and her puppy. You are comparing an inanimate object to a living, breathing soul. A defective piece of equipment, spoiled food, etc. that you return will most likely get thrown in the trash, or repaired and sold "as is". This woman, Loretta or Lori, or whatever her name is, has already proven multiple times that the dogs she sells are merely money in her pocket. The dogs health mean nothing to her. Some of her friends are coming on here saying that she is wonderful and has even given a dog away - maybe she did (but I'd make a healthy wager it was defective in some way), but it is also on record that she has refused to cooperate or live up to her word when customers have come to her with newly purchased sick puppies.

Could you honestly say that you would return a dog, that you love, to her?? She'd most likely send it back to the Oklahoma puppy mill that it came from, or she'd "play doctor" and give it some bogus medication and then pawn it off on the next unsuspecting person who comes along.

This woman, Loretta, is bad news, and she needs to be stopped. While I agree that normally it would be considered wrong to stop payment on an item without returning it, sometimes a person has to struggle with morality, not legality. If it were me in this situation right now, I'd say to Loretta, come and get me. I promise you that she won't. She has much more to lose by calling attention to herself like that.

www.madpuppymills.org

Never breed or buy while millions in shelters die.

[Teegy]

Originally Posted by chachi

There is a difference in what good decent people do and what uscrupelous people do that includes the Breeder But two wrongs dont make a right

but in this case it may be just the right thing for that wee puppy

[chachi]

How is it right for the puppy that she not pay for it

[Teegy]

She has done right by the pup and invested money in taking care of the illness it was sent to her with. So she has more than paid for the puppy.

This bad breeder broker person is lucky no one has slapped her upside of the head with a brick yet.
Let's hope something legit can be done to shut her down and have her penalized to the fullest extent of the law and then some

[bchgirl]

Doing something "legit" means following proper legal processes and in this case...that avenue was not pursued.

[bchgirl]

For the record there are specific time periods to file under CA's puppy lemon law and the majority of the remedies do not include receiving a refund AND keeping the puppy.

A third option - Keep the puppy and receive reimbursement for reasonable
veterinarian fees up to 150 percent of the original purchase price of
the dog plus sales tax on the original purchase price of the dog.