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Old 10-19-2007, 09:00 AM   #1
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Okay I hear that a lot of people in the breeder talk section are wondering how much a stud fee is. I looked up the average cost. According to my dog book called The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Dogs by Dr. Peter Larkin and Mike Stockman, averge stud fee is half of what the dam's owners would be selling the puppies for. Average Yorkie puppies go for $800, therefore the stud fee would be $400.

Now what I do not get is why people with ACA registered dogs are wanting $1,000 for their stud fee! No way would I ever EVER pay that or even consider it! The whole pick of the litter, I prefer to use it. This time, I didn't.

So if you were one of the wondering talkers on here, you have your answer. I really recomend The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Dogs, it has a great breeding chapter and whelping section.
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i don't know why they state that but i do know if you have a good quality yorkshire terrier with a good pedigree line, it runs from 1000.00 to 2000.00 for a stud fee.

the average of price yorkies ranges from place to place. my yorkies ran from 2000.00 to 2500.00 for a good line. i have adopted one for 700.00 and had to rehome him b/c he was a poor example of the breed and i did not know what i was doing.
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The stud fee does depend on the quality and standing of the male in question. You can bet the farm that a champion is going to demand a higher stud fee than a class dog, if you can get one. I would guess that it does differ from state to state as well.
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A stud fee is to be determined by the owner of the male and female being bred, not a book. Assuming they are well educated and experienced in what they are doing, they will be able to determine what they both feel is a fair price. If you don't like someone's stud fee, you reserve the right to walk away.
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I personally like the pick of the litter better. I mean, we are not all made up of cash all the time and sometimes those fees are really expensive! My friend, fellow toy dog breeder, was asked to breed her Papillon with another Papillon. She said I'll need to see your dog in person (possibly dog?) so this lady and her ratty ancient male Papillon show up a week later and want a $1,800 stud dog fee! My friend turned them down instantly! Wouldn't you?
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A stud fee is to be determined by the owner of the male and female being bred, not a book. Assuming they are well educated and experienced in what they are doing, they will be able to determine what they both feel is a fair price. If you don't like someone's stud fee, you reserve the right to walk away.
Okay, my girl Bella (pregnant!) is a good example! I had (have) people in Pennsylvania wanting to breed her with their boys! You have to be picky! About the stud fee and the physical looks of the male.

What really annoys me is when random people off the street see you when you are walking your Yorkie and come up to you and say,"I really like your dog, she has such a cute personality. Is she spayed?"

You answer, " No she isn't spayed and I have no intentions of breeding her, she will be spayed soon though."

That's how a lot of dogs get here. A random person, your ancient grandma or your daughter's best friend want a dog exactly like yours! There is NO WAY to create a puppy just like it's dam! It is impossible! I really don't like when people who have no intentions of breeding a young female suddenly stake out a wild search for a stud dog so old Mrs.Baker next door will have a companion dog.

A lot of people want one of Bella's babies. I'm so picky about where I place them, so I basically have a waiting list. They aren't even born yet and I have ninteen people on the waiting list when there is only six or seven pups that will need homes when they are twelve to thirteen weeks old.
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IMO, if you don't have money for a stud fee, then you probably don't have the money for alot of other complications and emergencies that could come up and therefore probably shouldn't be breeding in the first place.
I am lucky whereas I own the females AND studs we have implemented into our breeding program so at this point a stud fee is not something I have to give consideration to.
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You are so right....

I own both my females and studs...Which are not open for public stud.

There are various thoughts and practices when offering your stud for public use. Fees for well known studs are predicated on the Pedigree, Championship and demand of the stud as well as what he is producing.....

Some people work on a pick of the litter fee. However, if you are looking to produce a show dog....why would you want the stud owner to have pick of the litter.
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I have a lady in my area who breeds yorkies. When I was looking for Zoe, I came across her ad in the paper and called. I think at the time she only had tinies and as I learned more, I was glad I didn't purchase a pup thru her as I have seen her ads almost consistently in the paper since then - I've had Zoe since May so apparently she must have a lot of pups. Anyways, she charges $1200 for stud fees. I was a little shocked.... her studs are champion sired and I can't speak to their quality as I have not seen them in person, although they do look cute on her site. Still that seems steep to me but we don't have a lot of breeders in my area so I guess maybe that's why....
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Okay, I'm curious but for the fellow breeders out there, does it tick you off when people who have no idea what they are doing or have no intentions of breeding their fmelae suddenly decide to breed because someone wants a dog just like theirs? It really ticks me off...
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Okay, I'm curious but for the fellow breeders out there, does it tick you off when people who have no idea what they are doing or have no intentions of breeding their fmelae suddenly decide to breed because someone wants a dog just like theirs? It really ticks me off...
You can't control the world....What does upset me is that if they don't know what they are doing, most likely they are putting their female's life in jeaporady and aren't aware of that fact.
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Okay, I'm curious but for the fellow breeders out there, does it tick you off when people who have no idea what they are doing or have no intentions of breeding their fmelae suddenly decide to breed because someone wants a dog just like theirs? It really ticks me off...
It does get annoying to see them always come up with oops my gals pregnant now teach me everything I need to know quick. If you're not planning on being a breeder than why would you keep intact dogs in your home? Creating life is serious and needs to be taken that way.
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Yes, it does annoy me when that happens, but as Mary stated, you can't control the actions of others. IMO, if you discover your female is prego or locked when you don't know anything about breeding and didn't plan to breed, the best case scenario 9 out of 10 times is have the female spayed ASAP if it is not to late. You will NEVER in the short time a female carries a litter be able to prepare yourself enough to be able to 'handle it just this one time' on your own. Bringing a litter into this world is not something that should be viewed as 'cute' or 'fun' or 'a good learning experience.' It's a danger to your female...period. Even more so if you don't have the slightest idea what you are doing. I think sometimes people put what they want before what is best for their dogs and that is very unfortunate.
That being said, once it's done it's done and the best you can do is try to offer advice and support that will best benefit the female.
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Last time I was at the vet clinic with my std poodle (who was having surgery) and sat in the waiting room and witnessed the worst case scenario...
Mother comes rushing in the vet with her very large yorkie (large bc very preg)...she had been acting funny...

The vets figured after talking with the owner that she had been in labor for 2 days, but the owners did not recognize the behaviour as labour...yes all 3 pups died...Mom died a few hours later due to the massive infection and ruptured uterus...

As I sat in the waiting room I watched two little girls (elementary school age) cry heart broken because their beloved pet was gone...Mom was crying and the vet was upfront and asked if the breeding was intentional...not really, they bought a male yorkie and tried to keep them apart...but when she got preg decided they would sell the pups and keep one....

She then had a new problem, the vet bill of $2400.

This could have all been avoided for $100 the cost of spaying their female...
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Last time I was at the vet clinic with my std poodle (who was having surgery) and sat in the waiting room and witnessed the worst case scenario...
Mother comes rushing in the vet with her very large yorkie (large bc very preg)...she had been acting funny...

The vets figured after talking with the owner that she had been in labor for 2 days, but the owners did not recognize the behaviour as labour...yes all 3 pups died...Mom died a few hours later due to the massive infection and ruptured uterus...

As I sat in the waiting room I watched two little girls (elementary school age) cry heart broken because their beloved pet was gone...Mom was crying and the vet was upfront and asked if the breeding was intentional...not really, they bought a male yorkie and tried to keep them apart...but when she got preg decided they would sell the pups and keep one....

She then had a new problem, the vet bill of $2400.

This could have all been avoided for $100 the cost of spaying their female...
Oh that is so very sad but an excellent example of the reason we keep repeating the same warning over and over again. People just think what the hay, you put two dogs together and let nature take it's course. No big deal and we'll get a free puppy like our beloved pet and make some money to boot. Problem is due to lack of education or poor breeding stock you hear this scenerio far too often. In the long run it would cost far less and be a greater joy to have bought a new pup.
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