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Ladyhawk · 03-24-2007, 07:52 AM

I'm so sorry you're having trouble getting some help. Sometimes this feels like an exclusive club and it's hard for newbies to get in. As a newbie myself I sympathize with your dilemma, as a business woman I understand the breeders caution. Don't give up, find yourself some good books, attend some shows, try to talk to some show breeders (some will talk, some will snub). Work on developing an eye so that you can judge your own breeding stock. You may be able to get your boy registered UKC and than you will be able to show him in their confirmation classes. Check out your local kennel club and see if they have a handling class. If you want to be a serious breeder and it sounds like you do, prove your boy in the ring first. You'll be surprised what doors it opens up to you. Good luck, Tami

YorkieRose · 03-24-2007, 08:00 AM

Why not post his pedigree..and some photo's..stay with YT and learn all you can. I will sound harsh, BUT if his ped is not heavy with known champions, the chances of having anything more then a pet quality stud is slim..you might think a stud to produce pets is exactly what you want......BUT it does not work that way in breeding..you must have a male of superior quality to even produce pets who look like Yorkies.....
When he is breeding age, you can make a much better decision as to what your goals are regarding breeding and betterment of the breed. It is impossible to see much from your avatar...are his ears erect, what type of coat texture. If you are here to learn, you will learn...look for a mentor..and be prepared for most reputable breeders to decline..sorry, it is just the way it is...but you can set your own goals and achieve them by yourself..

Start going to dog shows to see what a good dog looks like..structure, movement, coat, color temperament..

bruizersmummy · 03-24-2007, 09:34 AM

I am still waiting on his pedigree. His coat is very smooth and soft. I look at alot of pics and I see alot of other yorkies have lots of tan on the face, I don't know if its just cause he's a pup but he seems to have a little more black. You tell me what you think, Will he get more tan as he grows and sheds his puppy coat or what?

I am going to a show will the groomer I mentioned in an earlier post

. She does some grooming with a breeder that will be there and hopefully I can get her to talk with me. I think I'm going to purchase a AKC pup for my breeding stock after I learn some more things on here and at the show. I want to thank you all so much! No matter what, Bruizer is a great boy to have in my life and i am thankfull for that. He will allways be my Boy rather he's a stud dog or just a pet!!!!!

Thanks and let me know what you think about Bruizer.

lisatodd · 03-24-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bruizersmummy

I have done alot of research but then I still have people telling me their dogs carry the "teacup" gene or some people .

i am sorry but i had to laugh at this. there is no such thing as a 'teacup gene"
i am not being mean but this takes the cake for me. i have heard it all but this one is funny.

it looks like you have a lot of studing regarding the yorkie. exspecially studding. i have been studding for many years and it is NOT a piece of cake. to me, it is easier to whelp than to stud.

lisatodd · 03-24-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bruizersmummy

I am still waiting on his pedigree. His coat is very smooth and soft. I look at alot of pics and I see alot of other yorkies have lots of tan on the face, I don't know if its just cause he's a pup but he seems to have a little more black. You tell me what you think, Will he get more tan as he grows and sheds his puppy coat or what?

I am going to a show will the groomer I mentioned in an earlier post

. She does some grooming with a breeder that will be there and hopefully I can get her to talk with me. I think I'm going to purchase a AKC pup for my breeding stock after I learn some more things on here and at the show. I want to thank you all so much! No matter what, Bruizer is a great boy to have in my life and i am thankfull for that. He will allways be my Boy rather he's a stud dog or just a pet!!!!!

Thanks and let me know what you think about Bruizer.

he is a great boy and yorkies are all great. he needs to grow into his ears...it maybe because he is a puppy that his ears look large. to be quite honest, you really don't know what his coat will be until 2 years. also, yorkies don't shed. you normally don't stud yorkies until they reach 1 1/2 - 2 years of age so by then you can see if he meets the standard.
please please please breed to the standard b/c there are too many yorkies out there that people breed just to breed and you end up with non standard yorkie. and it's people who purchase these pets and get very upset when they reach 1 yr old and they are 10lbs and their snout is long and their coloring isn't right and it is so heartbreaking.

bruizersmummy · 03-24-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lisatodd

i am sorry but i had to laugh at this. there is no such thing as a 'teacup gene"
i am not being mean but this takes the cake for me. i have heard it all but this one is funny.

it looks like you have a lot of studing regarding the yorkie. exspecially studding. i have been studding for many years and it is NOT a piece of cake. to me, it is easier to whelp than to stud.

I didn't say that the gene exsisted, I just said that I had people telling me that. I know it don't. Learning from my Mother who is a chihuahua breeder I know that it is just a very small pup and I know that the have extreme heath problems and are very fragile. In fact she lost a "teacup" because he jumped off the couch and bumped his head and it killed him. I hope i am not sounding rude here but I just wanted to point out that I did not say it was a gene, thats just what people told me, that why I turned here, to people who could set me straight! lol

YorkieRose · 03-24-2007, 10:34 AM

Remember to groom his ears...they need trimming...he has a green eye flash, so his coat is silk...but he may grow too large for a stud, it is early..best wishes

Ladyhawk · 03-24-2007, 11:04 AM

When I look at him I see a puppy. That's all for now, just a cute little boy. When he gets older and breaks color, when he grows into his ears, when his brisket drops and he fills out. when his topline evens up and he's done teething, he may be stud material. Who knows! Meanwhile enjoy his puppy time, it passes so fast. Learn all you can while he's growing and enjoy the show!

lisatodd · 03-24-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bruizersmummy

I didn't say that the gene exsisted, I just said that I had people telling me that. I know it don't. Learning from my Mother who is a chihuahua breeder I know that it is just a very small pup and I know that the have extreme heath problems and are very fragile. In fact she lost a "teacup" because he jumped off the couch and bumped his head and it killed him. I hope i am not sounding rude here but I just wanted to point out that I did not say it was a gene, thats just what people told me, that why I turned here, to people who could set me straight! lol

i wasn't talking about you i was quoting what you said people are telling you. it kills me what people say.
everyone wants to be a breeder and especially of yorkies. yorkie breeders are everywhere and a dime a dozen..but you will want to set yourself above the rest so make sure you have that good quality yorkie, good ethics, learn as much as you can in the next two years, get a mentor, help with some whelping, you should be set.
we have wonderful experienced breeders and show breeders here. they have been successful and are very well respected.
it took me 4 years of learning before i started to stud....i did this for two years before i whelped my first litter. it was a long process but well worth it.

YorkieRose · 03-24-2007, 02:18 PM

Oaky, I give up, what is a "brisket"...? thanks

Chrissy0277 · 03-24-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Oaky, I give up, what is a "brisket"...? thanks

Isnt it a type of barbequed meat? lol

Also dont forget to add..... Make sure he has 2 testicles, of course along with the topline, etc.

CO_yorkie_momma · 03-24-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Oaky, I give up, what is a "brisket"...? thanks

A brisket is the chest of an animal.

Ladyhawk · 03-24-2007, 03:55 PM

Thanks Barb, yes the brisket is the bottom of the chest, the part that extends between the dogs front legs. Until the dog has matured and the brisket has lowered and filled out you can't tell if the dog has good front legs and good reach. An expert told me this!

YorkieRose · 03-24-2007, 04:02 PM

Got it..been a long time since I looked at a structure chart..

wemple2 · 03-24-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Remember to groom his ears...they need trimming...he has a green eye flash, so his coat is silk...but he may grow too large for a stud, it is early..best wishes

was just reading this thread, what does it mean to have a green eye flash, so his coat is silk? i think my winston has a cotton coat, don't know about the eye flash. Thanks!

03-24-2007, 07:52 AM	#16
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,808	I'm so sorry you're having trouble getting some help. Sometimes this feels like an exclusive club and it's hard for newbies to get in. As a newbie myself I sympathize with your dilemma, as a business woman I understand the breeders caution. Don't give up, find yourself some good books, attend some shows, try to talk to some show breeders (some will talk, some will snub). Work on developing an eye so that you can judge your own breeding stock. You may be able to get your boy registered UKC and than you will be able to show him in their confirmation classes. Check out your local kennel club and see if they have a handling class. If you want to be a serious breeder and it sounds like you do, prove your boy in the ring first. You'll be surprised what doors it opens up to you. Good luck, Tami __________________ Tami

03-24-2007, 08:00 AM	#17
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pup Why not post his pedigree..and some photo's..stay with YT and learn all you can. I will sound harsh, BUT if his ped is not heavy with known champions, the chances of having anything more then a pet quality stud is slim..you might think a stud to produce pets is exactly what you want......BUT it does not work that way in breeding..you must have a male of superior quality to even produce pets who look like Yorkies..... When he is breeding age, you can make a much better decision as to what your goals are regarding breeding and betterment of the breed. It is impossible to see much from your avatar...are his ears erect, what type of coat texture. If you are here to learn, you will learn...look for a mentor..and be prepared for most reputable breeders to decline..sorry, it is just the way it is...but you can set your own goals and achieve them by yourself.. Start going to dog shows to see what a good dog looks like..structure, movement, coat, color temperament..

03-24-2007, 10:34 AM	#22
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pup Remember to groom his ears...they need trimming...he has a green eye flash, so his coat is silk...but he may grow too large for a stud, it is early..best wishes

03-24-2007, 11:04 AM	#23
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,808	When I look at him I see a puppy. That's all for now, just a cute little boy. When he gets older and breaks color, when he grows into his ears, when his brisket drops and he fills out. when his topline evens up and he's done teething, he may be stud material. Who knows! Meanwhile enjoy his puppy time, it passes so fast. Learn all you can while he's growing and enjoy the show! __________________ Tami

03-24-2007, 02:18 PM	#25
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	question Oaky, I give up, what is a "brisket"...? thanks

03-24-2007, 03:55 PM	#28
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,808	Thanks Barb, yes the brisket is the bottom of the chest, the part that extends between the dogs front legs. Until the dog has matured and the brisket has lowered and filled out you can't tell if the dog has good front legs and good reach. An expert told me this! __________________ Tami

03-24-2007, 04:02 PM	#29
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	ahhhh Got it..been a long time since I looked at a structure chart..