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02-18-2007, 01:20 PM | #1 |
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| Breeding Age One day I want Ludo to be a daddy and I was just wondering (also out of curiosity) what is the average age for males and females to safely breed?
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02-18-2007, 02:12 PM | #2 |
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| age I have never found any age to be perfectly safe..dogs can get STD's and all sorts of things..it is best to talk to your vet to safe guard your male for future breeding..age varies..ususally a year is fine for a male. As for females..search the archives..there are too many precautions, before and after to list in one post..Good Luck |
02-18-2007, 02:15 PM | #3 |
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| has Ludo been tested for gentic things? Have you researched his blooodlines? You didn't say how old he is so i am assuming he is young. You have time to research all about breeding while you wait. The male should ideally be over a year old but AKC will register pups from a sire of eight months, I believe it is. But hte longer you wait, the more the sperm can mature and less chance of defective puppies. |
02-18-2007, 02:52 PM | #4 |
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| Ditto! do your research and don't be in a rush. You have to do your tests and know the quality of your dogs before breeding. Are they to standard? Have you had anyone go over your dogs to evaluate them first? Breeding good dogs - does not mean just finding out how soon will they be ready to breed and putting them together. Just because they can breed - does not mean they should. I know you are wanting to do this right - or you would not have asked us. Good job!! T. |
02-18-2007, 03:10 PM | #5 |
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| wow dogs get STDs? i never knew that
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02-18-2007, 03:55 PM | #6 |
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| Wow WOW, is right..and alot of uneducated breeders do not know it either...for a starter, they can get brucellosis. It renders them sterile, very nasty disease, painful also, they get sick and run a fever many times, males testicles swell..can run thorough an entire breeding program and wipe you out. If a pregnant bitch contracts it, she will lose the litter around 5 to 7 weeks..all will be dead..then she will most likely never conceive again...other dogs/bitches do not have to be bred to contract it...all they have to do is come into contact with discharge...and you know how dogs like to sniff butts..LOL |
02-18-2007, 04:15 PM | #7 |
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| Yes Ludo is young! I just want to learn as much as I can before I consider this. I had no idea dogs could get STDs! I swear I learn so many new things on YT. He definitely wont be ready for it for quite some time. I know he carries the chocolate gene because his two sisters were chocolates. But do all carry this gene? Is it just a recessive trait? He is not registered yet. I send off the AKC papers soon. Do breeders prefer breeding AKC with AKC .. CKC with CKC .. etc? I know it is early for me to be asking this, but you can never know enough.
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02-18-2007, 04:35 PM | #8 |
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| Bdmcs324- Because he carries the chocolate gene - he should never be breed if you want to breed to standard. Cholcolate is not standard. IMO - AKC is preferred since the others are too easy to register with even if you do not know about the parents. I think CKC (continental) was trying to change this at the beginning of the year, but since I do not use or have CKC (continental) I do not know. AKC has a long history behind it, you must prove parentage and they must be AKC to register. And they will stop by breeders to check records and area where the dogs are kept. To me - this means a lot. CKC (Canadian) is like to AKC. JMO - if I were you - I would just enjoy your baby and have Ludo altered. |
02-18-2007, 04:58 PM | #9 |
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| So the chocolate gene is not carried by all yorkies? I thought it was just a recessive trait.
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02-18-2007, 05:15 PM | #10 |
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| Since it is not recogized by AKC or - YTCA ... http://ytca.org/faq.html - and even states that one should not breed one that is not a recognized color. Any reputable breeder would not promote an un true color. JMO - I would never breed a choloclate yorkie, since they are not to standard - doesn't matter if it is dominent or recessive. It is still there and can pop back up any time. T. |
02-18-2007, 05:21 PM | #11 |
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| I'm curoius too. I'm lokking for another yorkie and you run into all kinds of breeders. When I'm looking for a puppy and I'm asking about the parents what is the oldest the male and female should be. I've heard of places where they breed the female every heat until she dies. In checking out the parents what's the oldest they should be and how often should the female have puppies, once a year? |
02-18-2007, 05:46 PM | #12 | |
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02-18-2007, 05:50 PM | #13 |
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| And neither of Ludo's parents were chocolate.
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02-18-2007, 06:13 PM | #14 |
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| genes No, all Yorkies do not carry non-standard color genes...or Parti gene, etc. There are no set answers as to how old or often to breed. You must go bitch by bitch..size., ease of whelping and caring for the pups/nursing etc, no additonal problems before or after... I breed at the second or third season, or when I feel the bitch is ready mentally and physically. I do not breed before 14 months...and stop at 4 to 5 depends on many factors when I retire them...but have bred to 6..had one bitch whelp 6 pups two weeks before her 7th year, but she had not been bred in two years. |
02-18-2007, 06:42 PM | #15 |
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| Sorry - Bdmcs324 What I meant to say is that since his siblings (2) are chocolate - I would not breed him, but this is just my opinion. He is highly carring the chocolate gene due to both sisters being chocolate. So his chances of having a chocolate pup is higher than most - chances are he may have one every litter, but depends on the female he would be bred to and what is in her gene pool. And Pat thank you - I did not think that all yorkies carried this gene. If this was true we would have a lot more chocolate pups. I have never had any chocolate pups in any litter - ever. But I have never bred any of my yorkies that had siblings/parents/grandparents with chocolate gene or were chocolate - mine were all the normal color, as too were their parents, etc... "The Joy of Breeding Yorur Own Show Dog" by Ann Seranne (Mayfair) on page 51 discusses and lists genetically dominant and recessive traits. For example the curly coat is dominent over straight recessive and large or long ears are dominent over the recessive small or short ears, and straight topline is dominent over the sway back. I breed and then skip a heat. This way giving the female a chance to recoup a little longer. Some breed twice then skip one - either is okay and depends of the situation. Never breed every heat - too hard on the female. And I never started to breed until at least her second heat - usually when she is about 2 years old. T. |
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