BAD Breeder NOT A Reputable breeder WARNING

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I also bought 2 puppies from jenda yorkies and they are the sweetest things in the world as I have mentioned in all of the other posts where these two unsatisfied people keeping posting on this subject. I am sorry you two got a bad puppy from Jen and didnt find a solution to the problem but alot of people have gotten very nice ones from them too. I know it doesnt make your situation any better but I just wanted people to know that I dont think Jen is unethical at all and she does have some very nice dogs with great pedigrees.

Barb

A breeder can't really be faulted if they throw 1 dog with a bad attitude, what's 1 out of say 50? Mary Lou is the breeder for Jendas, She's been doing this along time and has always been very helpful to me after the sale as well.

[prettypuppypink]

If Jen were a reputable breeder she would have told me this dog had 2 tumours on his chin and was dog agressive. She told me he was a calm sweet tempermant that I could travel with him. I told her that I owned other tiny dogs and she knew he was dog aggressive, he didn't get along with her her Crested "Special". She didn't stand behind her dog when I told her she misrepresented him. I have all her emails as well as mine. I think that paying $3000. for a dog, not receiving a health guarentee and contract and being deceived (lied to) is very heartbreaking especially since my previous Yorkie died of chronic pancreatitis complicated by 2 HGE attacks. I was up front with her. I waited 3 months to get another Yorkie. There were many others I could have bought. She is heartless and greedy. You can praise her to the hilt but the facts I stated are the truth. She has done this to others. My dog was obviously caged 24/7, runs in circles constantly. I have to be careful with training him because he was abused according to his trainer, now on #3. I can't rehome him, spent a fortune on vet bills as well as trainers. I don't need a trainer for obeidience, have owned dogs for 46 years but for abuse issues I have no experience. Since he almost killed my Mi-Ki twice, I think it says alot for my ethics that I still have him and am working with him for 5 months and counting. I wouldn't rehome him because I wouldn't misrepresent him to anyone and bring them heartache as Jen did to me and my family and I haven't euthanized him. I am not jen's only victim, he is as well. What I think of her can't be posted.

[prettypuppypink]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

A breeder can't really be faulted if they throw 1 dog with a bad attitude, what's 1 out of say 50? Mary Lou is the breeder for Jendas, She's been doing this along time and has always been very helpful to me after the sale as well.

They can be faulted for not being honest about the "dog with a bad attitude" and lying to the buyer about a 7 month old dog with a "bad additude." This was not one dog, she did the same to YorkieGeorge's friend. If Mary Lou is the breeder and I never spoke to her but to Jen. Does that make Jen a broker?

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by prettypuppypink

If Jen were a reputable breeder she would have told me this dog had 2 tumours on his chin and was dog agressive. She told me he was a calm sweet tempermant that I could travel with him. I told her that I owned other tiny dogs and she knew he was dog aggressive, he didn't get along with her her Crested "Special". She didn't stand behind her dog when I told her she misrepresented him. I have all her emails as well as mine. I think that paying $3000. for a dog, not receiving a health guarentee and contract and being deceived (lied to) is very heartbreaking especially since my previous Yorkie died of chronic pancreatitis complicated by 2 HGE attacks. I was up front with her. I waited 3 months to get another Yorkie. There were many others I could have bought. She is heartless and greedy. You can praise her to the hilt but the facts I stated are the truth. She has done this to others. My dog was obviously caged 24/7, runs in circles constantly. I have to be careful with training him because he was abused according to his trainer, now on #3. I can't rehome him, spent a fortune on vet bills as well as trainers. I don't need a trainer for obeidience, have owned dogs for 46 years but for abuse issues I have no experience. Since he almost killed my Mi-Ki twice, I think it says alot for my ethics that I still have him and am working with him for 5 months and counting. I wouldn't rehome him because I wouldn't misrepresent him to anyone and bring them heartache as Jen did to me and my family and I haven't euthanized him. I am not jen's only victim, he is as well. What I think of her can't be posted.

Thank you for posting your experience with this greeder as Vee calls them. I am on the verge of getting another yorkie and I only need 1 person to talk about their bad experience for me to stay away. I'm sorry for what you and your baby are going through. But you know what, do what ever you can to bring this greeder to justice. Sue her if you must but get either your vet bills paid or your money back. I would hire an attorney and seek justice, not for the money, but for the responsibility. Karma is a bi**h, she will get hers too and so will other greeders like her.

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

A breeder can't really be faulted if they throw 1 dog with a bad attitude, what's 1 out of say 50? Mary Lou is the breeder for Jendas, She's been doing this along time and has always been very helpful to me after the sale as well.

I don't care if it's 1 dog out of 500. Jendas should stand behind her responsibilities. She SHOULD have told every person that was interested in this dog, his faults and conditions. If she didn't know, as a "Reputable" breeder she should have worked with this person to make it a more pleasant experience. But because she probably isn't one of those breeders, she gets the bad mouthing as deserved.

[red98vett]

I guess it boils down to how a breeder handles unhappy people....I talk to several breeders with good reputations on a pretty regular basis and I know they would bend over backwards to solve any problems -

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by prettypuppypink

They can be faulted for not being honest about the "dog with a bad attitude" and lying to the buyer about a 7 month old dog with a "bad additude." This was not one dog, she did the same to YorkieGeorge's friend. If Mary Lou is the breeder and I never spoke to her but to Jen. Does that make Jen a broker?

That's where I'm confused. Mary Lou is listed as the breeder for all three of my dogs, she owns both the sire and the dam. Fonda is the owner of the dam of your dog but Mary Lou owns the sire because that's Parker if I'm not mistaken. Apparently Jen (who is Mary Lou's daughter) must have gotten together with Fonda to do some breeding. I've had no dealings with Fonda and have only e-mailed Jennifer once when her mother was busy. CO_yorkie_momma has a dog who is sired by Parker and who's dam is a Fondarosa bitch, I wonder if Jennifer is listed as her dog's breeder? What was Jen doing with the dog if it was bred at Fondarosa's? Do you know why she had this dog at 7 monthes? Was she hoping for a showdog? Why did she charge you so much for him? Did she represent him as a showdog? I must admit it is an odd situation.

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I guess it boils down to how a breeder handles unhappy people....I talk to several breeders with good reputations on a pretty regular basis and I know they would bend over backwards to solve any problems -

Well this statement is certainly true! I've never had a bad experience with Jendas and therefore have had no reason to be unhappy or to be dealt with. As a breeder I've been lucky to have produced pups with great temperments. I work very hard to be sure that they're well socialized and so far (knock on wood) have had very good results. I guess if someone was that unhappy and the dog and owner were both miserable, I'd simply take back the dog for the best solution for all involved. I never want one of my babies to be miserable in their life situations. I brought them into this world, I'm responsible for them. I must say though that the hardest part about being a breeder is not dealing with the dogs but dealing with the people!

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I must say though that the hardest part about being a breeder is not dealing with the dogs but dealing with the people!

But I think as long as a breeders practices are ethical, people have no reason to complain. People work really hard for that thousand, two thousand or three thousand dollars they pay, so they should get all of their questions answered, and then some. People only start to become difficult when they feel as though they've been duped or they are getting the short end of the stick.

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

But I think as long as a breeders practices are ethical, people have no reason to complain. People work really hard for that thousand, two thousand or three thousand dollars they pay, so they should get all of their questions answered, and then some. People only start to become difficult when they feel as though they've been duped or they are getting the short end of the stick.

This is true to a great extent but when dealing with pups that change so much as they grow up, you can run into problems occasionally. I can only estimate growth, coat quality and quantity, and temperament. If a bitch turns into a real bitch when grown or a dog turns out too shy to show, a person can get unhappy. You can't predict the future and some people just don't want to accept that. That being said, I'm sure that at 7 months Jessica's dog would have shown it's true colors at least a bit and someone (whoever had him previously) would have known. There is also no excuse for not telling a prospective buyer about a health issue or physical fault. I was lied to once by a breeder that I purchased a dog from over the internet (not Jendas). Eventually the dog turned out to be a prize though she still has issues. I consider her my rescue ( I took her out of a bad situation) and she's special to me, hang ups and all. I can sympathize with Jessica's situation, I simply hate to see Jenda's trashed when Mary Lou is involved and I've had good experiences with her.

[prettypuppypink]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

That's where I'm confused. Mary Lou is listed as the breeder for all three of my dogs, she owns both the sire and the dam. Fonda is the owner of the dam of your dog but Mary Lou owns the sire because that's Parker if I'm not mistaken. Apparently Jen (who is Mary Lou's daughter) must have gotten together with Fonda to do some breeding. I've had no dealings with Fonda and have only e-mailed Jennifer once when her mother was busy. CO_yorkie_momma has a dog who is sired by Parker and who's dam is a Fondarosa bitch, I wonder if Jennifer is listed as her dog's breeder? What was Jen doing with the dog if it was bred at Fondarosa's? Do you know why she had this dog at 7 monthes? Was she hoping for a showdog? Why did she charge you so much for him? Did she represent him as a showdog? I must admit it is an odd situation.

Why don't you ask Jen. I have never received any answers from her to my questions. Jen presented it to me as her dog but when I received the papers, Mary Lou was the breeder. I never even heard of Mary Lou at all until I saw the AKC registration papers. This Parker( Fondarosa's West Wing), I was told is owned by Jen, was co-bred to Fondarosa Dam, Fondarosa Velvet Revolver. I haven't a clue to any of your questions because Jen is not honest and has never replied except to hang up on me and never replied to any emails after I expressed my displeasure about this dog upon arrival as being misrepresented by her, another way of calling someone a total liar. He was never show quality, hardly, has an awful thin dry coat, doesn't grow, didn't resemble his pictures. My vet removed the tumours from his chin and couldn't get all margins because his mouth would have been pulled down. They were benign but must be watched because they can grow again, then margins would have to be removed and he will have difficulty eating. There was a health certificate from her vet for shipping and boy did she want to ship him two days later but it was 4 instead because I couldn't meet him at the airport two days later. What kind of vet doesn't see two tumours. He also didn't have rabies but jen said her vet lied for shipping purposes. That I was told, only honest statement from Jen. Do you know how sad I feel getting a dog like this after losing a fabulous Yorkie. I discussed with Jen what I wanted in a Yorkie. She told me what I wanted to hear, she doesn't have a heart.
It's not at all an odd situation for a money hungry bad breeder or broker. I haven't a clue what her position is in relation to Jendas or Mary Lou nor do I care anymore except to warn others as I did this a.m. when someone posted asking about her. I wouldn't want anyone to go through the heartbreak that I am. You and your friends who praise her can't accept my experience or YorkieGeorge's friend only defend her, that's your choice. I had an experience where I received a beautiful. sweet, calm, loving Yorkie from a breeder. At the same time two other people in San Francisco received two from the same litter that I did, they died of Parvo. I have all the copies of paperwork from their lawyers, they sued her. The animal hospitals fought to save those 2 puppies. My vet couldn't believe I had the copies. Would I recommend her to anyone, no. I understand about Parvo but they arrived with it. I was lucky mine only had Giardia. I know others that have bought from her and are breeders and had beautiful healthy dogs. I also know that she has dogs that are sold for pets and don't receive the same care as those going to breeders. I also paid $3,000. for that Yorkie and never regret that I did.
I could have bought many Yorkies that were gorgeous from breeders that I wouldn't place their names in the same post with Jen. I was sucked in by Jen and her website and I'm paying now with a nightmare of a Yorkie. I am not pleased with myself either for being so trusting.

[prettypuppypink]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Well this statement is certainly true! I've never had a bad experience with Jendas and therefore have had no reason to be unhappy or to be dealt with. As a breeder I've been lucky to have produced pups with great temperments. I work very hard to be sure that they're well socialized and so far (knock on wood) have had very good results. I guess if someone was that unhappy and the dog and owner were both miserable, I'd simply take back the dog for the best solution for all involved. I never want one of my babies to be miserable in their life situations. I brought them into this world, I'm responsible for them. I must say though that the hardest part about being a breeder is not dealing with the dogs but dealing with the people!

Oh this dog from Jenda's isn't miserable here, best he was ever treated in his life for sure. I am unhappy because this wasn't what I had discussed with Jen as to what I was looking for in a Yorkie. I was lied to by a so called reputable breeder as you claim because she wanted to dump this dog for as much money as she could. Why does she breed with Fonda if Jen or Mary Lou are so wonderful? Do a search on YT and read what Fonda has done to many including John.

[CO_yorkie_momma]

CO_yorkie_momma has a dog who is sired by Parker and who's dam is a Fondarosa bitch, I wonder if Jennifer is listed as her dog's breeder?

Actually, the sire of Kiley is Crystalwaters super Duty who is Riley and the mom is Fonderosa's Capital Steps which I think is the sister to Parker. I think it is Mattie but not sure. She is a little beauty and onery for sure but never mean and neither her nor Trace seem like they were ever caged a day in their life. They both jumped out of the kennels the day we got them and started giving us kisses and were so happy and healthy and we havent had a minutes trouble with either of them. Here is a picture of her with one of the other dogs, Louie and a close up of her. We love them to pieces and my husband is just crazy over Kiley. He thinks she is the best.

Barb

I forgot to add that Jen was no listed as the breeder, Mary Lou is.

[rachelsyorkie]

I hope they do let the dogs out to socialize as much as possible-everyday. It does look clean. Hopefully they only keep them put up when in heat, when they have to to keep them from breeding etc. Because locked up 24/7 is a very sad way to keep anything. And a mom needs her space from the pups daily too I've seen much much worse though. At least this does look clean & organized.

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

CO_yorkie_momma has a dog who is sired by Parker and who's dam is a Fondarosa bitch, I wonder if Jennifer is listed as her dog's breeder?

Actually, the sire of Kiley is Crystalwaters super Duty who is Riley and the mom is Fonderosa's Capital Steps which I think is the sister to Parker. I think it is Mattie but not sure. She is a little beauty and onery for sure but never mean and neither her nor Trace seem like they were ever caged a day in their life. They both jumped out of the kennels the day we got them and started giving us kisses and were so happy and healthy and we havent had a minutes trouble with either of them. Here is a picture of her with one of the other dogs, Louie and a close up of her. We love them to pieces and my husband is just crazy over Kiley. He thinks she is the best.

Barb

I forgot to add that Jen was no listed as the breeder, Mary Lou is.

Hey how old is Kiley? Cricket's father is Riley and her mother is Mattie. Are our dogs sisters or littermates? Cricket was born June 30,2006.