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scrapindee · 08-17-2006, 02:26 PM

SCHEDULES and JUDGES:

Southern California Schedule: go to internationaldogshow.com

South El Monte, CA show relocated, still inside Whittier Narrows Rec. Area. Click for map. Zoom out for more general location.

If coming from the east on the 60: Exit Santa Anita/Fawcett Ave. Stay on Fawcett until Lerma Road; go left park behind Tennis Club and Ramada Inn. On Corner of Lerma and Portero.

If coming from the west on the 60: Exit Santa Anita and go left (north) to Fawcett go Left to Lerma and park.

WATCH for signs.

newmommy · 08-18-2006, 09:05 PM

wish I was closer!!

scrapindee · 08-24-2006, 07:39 PM

Check my website for pictures of the wonderful biewers at the show. It was awesome.

sweetr72 · 08-24-2006, 08:02 PM

Biewers are amazingly beautiful!! I have heard them mentioned on here but just checked out Dee's website and wowee!! I would love to meet one in person!! Are their tails docked?? My new Yorkie does not have his tail docked and the breeder called me last night to give me an update..she says his tail is starting to lift over his back..lol..I noticed that on the Biewers pictured...I can really appreciate what is trying to be done with this breed and how you are trying to have them recognized as their "own" breed!!

Dawn

scrapindee · 08-25-2006, 07:11 PM

The tails are not docked on the Biewers. This is part of the standard for the Biewers from Germany. I for one am delighted that this is allowed (tails). I have a teapot yorkie who is basically blonde--I wish she had her tail but she is beautiful anyways.

There are 10 pages of Biewers on the website from the CA show. Enjoy--it was an awesome sight.

sweetr72 · 08-25-2006, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the reply to my question. I love tails too lol...I am glad the breeder choses not to dock. I am going back to look at the pics tonight...the show would have been awesome!!

Dawn

Julz · 08-25-2006, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyqueen

Now I checked the standard for akc and ytca both have the same standard if a beiwer cant be registerd why is it ok for a chocolate or parti and should the price be much cheaper since it should not be bread and cant be shown

I may be wrong, but this is my understanding:
The Biewer is not considered a Yorkie. It is not a "Biewer Yorkshire Terrier". It is considered a different breed with different standards. However, a chocolate or parti colored Yorkshire Terrier that is the result of 2 AKC parents is entitled to be AKC also. You have to send specific pictures in and the panel has to agree to accept said dog. I had 2 color anomaly pups in a litter....AKC did accept them.

Toby'sMama · 08-25-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julz

I may be wrong, but this is my understanding:
The Biewer is not considered a Yorkie. It is not a "Biewer Yorkshire Terrier". It is considered a different breed with different standards. However, a chocolate or parti colored Yorkshire Terrier that is the result of 2 AKC parents is entitled to be AKC also. You have to send specific pictures in and the panel has to agree to accept said dog. I had 2 color anomaly pups in a litter....AKC did accept them.

The German Registry registers the Biewers as Biewer Yorkshire Terrier, or Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon. They are a breed of their own, but they are decended from the Yorkshire Terrier.

4Dogs · 08-26-2006, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrapindee

There are 10 pages of Biewers on the website from the CA show. Enjoy--it was an awesome sight.

GREAT photos Dee! Wow, I have to admend my Christmas list to include a little Biewer! I fell in love immediately - as soon as I clicked on the 1st picture on the 1st page!

Julz · 08-26-2006, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby'sMama

The German Registry registers the Biewers as Biewer Yorkshire Terrier, or Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon. They are a breed of their own, but they are decended from the Yorkshire Terrier.

I know they are a pibald decendent of the Yorkie, but thought that I read that they weren't considered a Yorkie (even though no other breed has been mixed in to create the Biewer). Interesting. I'll have to read more....its been a while. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

scrapindee · 08-27-2006, 08:23 PM

Thanks for the compliments. I would like more biewers too. I really enjoy them too.

The breed history is very interesting; and they are an extension of the Yorkie Terriers; after all their name is Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon.

YorkieRini · 08-29-2006, 07:16 AM

I love to see more interest in Biewers. I have had many conversations with long time Yorkshire Terrier fanciers to find out the mystery behind the gene in Biewers. In England where the YT was created the breeds that were used; none carried the Piebald gene. It wasn’t until the YT was brought over to the US or another country when the gene appeared. So, the only explanation is that another breed was introduced into the Yorkshire Terrier line and not logged. Speculation is the Maltese or even the Shih Tzu. That is why they are considered a separate breed. True Yorkshire Terriers do not have a Piebald Gene. You can read excellent information pertaining to that on Cher Hildebrand’s website http://members.aol.com/CYorkie/BiewerTriColor.html that explains why the Biewer is not a Yorkshire Terrier. There is no denying they are related that’s for sure. But to call them one in the same is just not correct. Some still breed them to Yorkies they refuse to see the facts and want to make more is my guess. For those wanting to learn more about the Biewer Yorkshire Ala Pom Pon. Feel free to visit the NBCA’s website www.nationalbiewerclubofamerica.org.

PlatinumYorkies · 08-30-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Speculation is the Maltese or even the Shih Tzu. .

Aren't the Maltese, and Shih Tzu double coated doggies?

BamaFan121s · 09-05-2006, 01:34 PM

Here is a very useful link with lots of information. http://www.bytca.org/
You can also try Biewertalk.com.
Don't feel bad, it still confuses me too. I tried to get it all strait in my head, but ended up insulting some by asking questions, so I gave up.

It's been a touchy subject here in the past...do a search on it and look for the many heated threads and you'll see what I mean.

If you can get it strait, you're one up on me.

08-17-2006, 02:26 PM	#16
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	SCHEDULES and JUDGES: Southern California Schedule: go to internationaldogshow.com South El Monte, CA show relocated, still inside Whittier Narrows Rec. Area. Click for map. Zoom out for more general location. If coming from the east on the 60: Exit Santa Anita/Fawcett Ave. Stay on Fawcett until Lerma Road; go left park behind Tennis Club and Ramada Inn. On Corner of Lerma and Portero. If coming from the west on the 60: Exit Santa Anita and go left (north) to Fawcett go Left to Lerma and park. WATCH for signs. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

08-18-2006, 09:05 PM	#17
newmommy Keep Me Away From eBay Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,109	wish I was closer!! __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face!!

08-24-2006, 07:39 PM	#18
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	Check my website for pictures of the wonderful biewers at the show. It was awesome. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

08-25-2006, 07:11 PM	#20
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	The tails are not docked on the Biewers. This is part of the standard for the Biewers from Germany. I for one am delighted that this is allowed (tails). I have a teapot yorkie who is basically blonde--I wish she had her tail but she is beautiful anyways. There are 10 pages of Biewers on the website from the CA show. Enjoy--it was an awesome sight. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

08-27-2006, 08:23 PM	#26
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	Thanks for the compliments. I would like more biewers too. I really enjoy them too. The breed history is very interesting; and they are an extension of the Yorkie Terriers; after all their name is Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

08-24-2006, 08:02 PM	#19
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	Biewers are amazingly beautiful!! I have heard them mentioned on here but just checked out Dee's website and wowee!! I would love to meet one in person!! Are their tails docked?? My new Yorkie does not have his tail docked and the breeder called me last night to give me an update..she says his tail is starting to lift over his back..lol..I noticed that on the Biewers pictured...I can really appreciate what is trying to be done with this breed and how you are trying to have them recognized as their "own" breed!! Dawn

08-25-2006, 07:16 PM	#21
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	Thanks for the reply to my question. I love tails too lol...I am glad the breeder choses not to dock. I am going back to look at the pics tonight...the show would have been awesome!! Dawn

08-29-2006, 07:16 AM	#27
YorkieRini Livin' La Yorkie Local Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,607	I love to see more interest in Biewers. I have had many conversations with long time Yorkshire Terrier fanciers to find out the mystery behind the gene in Biewers. In England where the YT was created the breeds that were used; none carried the Piebald gene. It wasn’t until the YT was brought over to the US or another country when the gene appeared. So, the only explanation is that another breed was introduced into the Yorkshire Terrier line and not logged. Speculation is the Maltese or even the Shih Tzu. That is why they are considered a separate breed. True Yorkshire Terriers do not have a Piebald Gene. You can read excellent information pertaining to that on Cher Hildebrand’s website http://members.aol.com/CYorkie/BiewerTriColor.html that explains why the Biewer is not a Yorkshire Terrier. There is no denying they are related that’s for sure. But to call them one in the same is just not correct. Some still breed them to Yorkies they refuse to see the facts and want to make more is my guess. For those wanting to learn more about the Biewer Yorkshire Ala Pom Pon. Feel free to visit the NBCA’s website www.nationalbiewerclubofamerica.org.

09-05-2006, 01:34 PM	#29
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Here is a very useful link with lots of information. http://www.bytca.org/ You can also try Biewertalk.com. Don't feel bad, it still confuses me too. I tried to get it all strait in my head, but ended up insulting some by asking questions, so I gave up. It's been a touchy subject here in the past...do a search on it and look for the many heated threads and you'll see what I mean. If you can get it strait, you're one up on me.