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03-27-2006, 11:07 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snohomish, WA
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| Breech Birth First, let me tell you what a great community of folks you all are! What a truly blessed find for me! I'll go ahead and launch into my question for those who prefer to get down to business and follow up with some background in case you're interested in hearing about my little brood: Here's my question: We're having puppies any day now and when I had my girl in last Monday for the radiogram, the vet said, based on the skeletal development of the puppies that we were about a week out (which means she'll probably be early--not a full 63 days). It was likely, he said that one of the puppies would present breech--he told me it wasn't a problem, but after a "pseudopregnancy diagnosis" he gave me two weeks ago, I'm hesitant to rely on him as my SINGLE source of information. Some of the websites I've been able to find said this is normal and shouldn't be cause for alarm, some claim that it's a problem. Any experienced breeders out there who can advise me what to do if, in fact, the puppy comes breech? And now, here's more about us and our decision to breed. I'm the very protective/proud papa of two adorable Yorkies we named Yoshi (Yoshi Robert when he's in trouble) and Daisy (Daisy Louise when likewise). (Photo attached). They're two years old and brother and sister from a litter of two. We wanted a female, but couldn't take Daisy away from the little "monkey boy". It was the best decision I've ever made. Being the bigger of the two, Daisy's always been protective of Yoshi and they've always been inseparable. Long story short, we decided to breed Daisy as my grandmother is in love with her and wants a puppy desperately. So, I spent six months searching out all of the information I could find and decided it was pretty safe to proceed. (Daisy's normal weight is about 6.5lbs and her mom has successfully and easily whelped three litters since she was born.) I was even telling my vet what kinds of tests he needed to do at the pre-breeding visit. He LOVED that, let me tell you. Haha. Well, the breeding was successful and, after a little bubble where the relief vet told me she was having a "pseudopregnancy" that turned out to be a bad call (I felt puppies moving a week later and went back for another radiogram), everything appears to be progressing normally. Today is day 54, so we're getting close. The last radiogram shows two good sized puppies (but after some photoshop monkeying, I'm convinced there are three). We've timed the drive to the vet at four minutes, I've memorized both the regular and emergency numbers, have a whelping kit on hand and everything is in order except for my frazzled nerves--I keep hoping I can stay calm and remember everything I've read when the time comes! My one concern is with the breech, so if anyone has any tips that I can keep in mind if it happens, I'd be most appreciative! Thanks again for all of the great information you all contribute. Nervous, excited, expectant grandparents like me are deeply grateful! |
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03-27-2006, 11:17 AM | #2 |
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| I dont have any information but just wish you well with your new babies and your lovely mum!
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03-27-2006, 11:22 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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| I'm not a breeder, but from what I have read it is common and as long as the feet come first and not the butt it is usually not a problem. Welcome to YT. You are sure to find the answers here for any questions that arise. Congratulations! Is this your first litter? Good luck, and be sure to let us know when they arrive. |
03-27-2006, 11:34 AM | #4 |
Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Silverton Oregon
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| Well first of all Congratulations and next, take a breath and relax. It sounds like you have done everything right. In the Yorkshire Terrier breed it should not matter if they come out front or back first. In some breeds it can make a big difference, breeds with very large heads, but Yorkies have small heads and your girl is big enough they should slip right out. So try not to worry to much and enjoy the miracle of birth. Best Wishes to all of you!! Debbie Ray wwwsumtoiyorkies.com |
03-27-2006, 11:53 AM | #5 |
Lovin' the Cali kisses! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
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| I just wanted to say CONGRATS and good luck!! Call me naive..but I have a question..is it normal to breed a brother and sister of the same litter?
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03-27-2006, 11:56 AM | #6 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Akron, Ohio
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| I agree with previous poster and your vet. Breech birth is not often a problem unless a large head becomes lodged in the birth canal, which luckily I have never had to experience. Just try to be available when the pups decide to come along in case there are any problems. Sounds like your vet is close and you are prepared for most scenarios. Best of luck to you all.
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03-27-2006, 12:16 PM | #7 | |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snohomish, WA
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PS--Thank you for all the good wishes! Poor Daisy stands there and stares up at me with that disgusted look every day as if to say "YOU, YOU did this to me. I will perhaps find it in my heart to forgive you one day, but right now, I'm just going to stare at you in disgust because these little things inside of me are making me INSANE!" I'm positive it will all be worth it. Can't wait to see and snuggle those little stinkers! And Yoshi is going to be a great uncle. He's the sweetest little guy! | |
03-27-2006, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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| birthing Puppies are not like human babies...sometimes they come out head first and almost often they come feet first. I have entire litters of feet first pups...breech pups are not the problem..the problem comes SOMETIMES if it is first time whelping or oversized pup...coming out head first is more efficient in these cases. Breech is not something I worry about...if you see feet contained in the sac, and with labor the pup comes down and is pushed out the same as head first. If you see a dry leg sticking out, then you have a problem and need to grasp it and the other leg with a washclothe and pull gently with contractions. Pups tend to get a bit more fluid in their lungs that way, so you will need to clear them out and shake them down. Another thing..puppies turn and twist in the uterus..by the time whelping comes they may all be head first. You mentioned your two Yorkies were inseparable..but of course they were separated when your girl was in heat..she was not bred to her brother I am sure. |
03-27-2006, 12:50 PM | #9 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas
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| Hello I don't have any information for you, but I wanted to pop in and welcome you to Yorkie Talk.......Great Place!!!!!!!! I see you have gotten some great advice already. Your furbabies are sooo Cute!!! Good Luck on the BIG event coming up.........
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03-27-2006, 01:02 PM | #10 |
Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Silverton Oregon
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| This look you are getting is not a look of disgust it is a "don't leave me , something is happening and I want you be here for me. I do not know for sure what it is but I know you are the one that will make sure everything is going to go alright. I am counting on you!!! " Your little girl needs you to be with her every minute until the day comes just incase she needs something. Yes you got her into this but she is going to love being a mom. |
03-27-2006, 01:22 PM | #11 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Snohomish, WA
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| Yeah, I read that "Don't leave me alone for one second," message in her look too. Ask my aching back. I've been sleeping on the floor for the last week because I don't want her jumping off of the bed at night. I've also been doctoring her food with chicken broth and a little egg--when she's finished having puppies and nursing and she goes back on the regular maintenance food is when she'll probably REALLY feel picked on. |
03-27-2006, 01:34 PM | #12 |
Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Silverton Oregon
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| You are a good man , you are doing all that you can for her. I have put a large crate on a table next to my bed at night so I can see and hear everything as I am to old to sleep on the floor. It works well for us and I can put my fingers in the front of the crate so she knows I am near by. This keeps her safe from falling and I get some sleep before the main event. I am a very light sleeper so I can be with her if she even gets up to turn around. She can see me and hear me breathing so she knows she is not alone. When she starts digging I turn the light on, it is a three way and I turn it on dim and I can watch the progress until it is time to get up and get busy. Debbie |
03-27-2006, 04:56 PM | #13 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana
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| The best site i've found on the internet and i'm sure others will agree is debbie Jensens whelping guide Do a search on that and it will pull her site up. Your vet may have told you but you should start taking her temp twice a day. When it drops between 98 and 99 she should whelp her pups within 24 hours..so if it does plan on a long night. oh I almost forgot..welcome to yt and congrads on the upcoming puppies..
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03-27-2006, 05:57 PM | #14 | |
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03-27-2006, 05:58 PM | #15 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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| Hi Jeremy, First of all - this is such a GREAT forum! They totally helped me when my baby girl gave birth about 2 weeks ago. I think our stories are so similar excpet it is my mom who wanted one. Anyhow - two of my three pups came out breech (and the vet told us 2 but I was SURE there were 3 also). The first one was terribly nerve-wracking - the pup came one bottom foot out first. I would suggest you have some kind of lubricant - vaseline, baby oil, etc, in case you (like I did) need to help maneuver the pup to come out correctly. I also had my laptop handy and the phone, and called Debbie Jensen, who walked me thru the first pup! Other than that - good luck and looking forward to pics! Best regards, Viv
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