Jenda's Yorkies
 

Let me post the reasons for my concern with it being the incorrect puppy.....

The pup was taken to the vet on 04/10/07 and I was told that she weighed
1 3/4lbs. When I received her on 04/13/07 3 SHORT DAYS LATER she weighed 2lbs 9oz. This would mean that she gained 1/4 of her adult weight in 3 days???? I Dont think this is POSSIBLE.....

The pup that I purchase in the ad on puppyfind and in all correspondance name was DEMI and was always referred to as such by her breeder- jenda's yorkies. When I received the pup the vet health certificate listed the pups name as MISSY......

The breeder also told me that she would mail the akc papers after I received the pup and would sent them registered mail. She didnt want to take the chance that the "papers could get lost" and the expense to have akc reissue them... I understand all of this...... When I didnt receive the akc papers 1 week later and I might add that I still havent :-( I emailed and inquired on it... She stated that she hadnt received them back from akc yet... So why not just tell me this originally???


Let me list the differences in the pup:

Head: the shape isnt the same

Ears set: completely different

Structure: the pup that I received is "very" petite build

Coat: the length of the coat on the pup I received is "much" longer..... look at the paws..... Can it really grow that much in 9 days??? that is the difference in time between the pics. The pup that I received has a very very thin sparse coat- you can see down to the skin all over it.

try this senerio: You have been searching for a certain car for a very long time, investing all your weekends into it. You finally find a car lot you think is reputable go and pick out a car. It is a very nice car and you have saved and saved for it. You pay for it with your hard earned money and they will deliver it to you in a week. When it arrives you realize that this isnt the car you paid for. It is a 4 door sedan and you purchased and paid for the 2 door coupe. They tell you, well it is the same make of car and runs fine, you should just be happy with it and there is nothing they will do for you.

would you be happy? I work very hard for my money when I spend it, expect to "GET WHAT I PAID FOR"

Can anyone really say anything different? I think if you can, you just AREN'T BEING REAL.......

I was actually being sarcastic...... Ladyhawk has a problem with people posting bad repor on jenda's yorkies. I was reading her prior statement when she said that she would want to know the good and the bad. BUT yet she chastizes anyone who does bad repor on this certain breeder... She did it to me and to prettypuppypink. I had a really bad experience and wouldnt want anyone to have the same. I think it is good to get your experiences out there good or bad to give the new buyer something to consider.....

oh, I see. sorry i didn't catch the sarcasim

What I had a problem with was the word too in the post on presenting Cricket. It made it sound like I got scammed first when you come into my thread and state that you've been scammed too. I was not scammed. I understand that some can have good dealings with someone and be perfectly happy and others have a bad dealing and be unsatisfied. I don't know if Mary Lou switched pups on you or not but I was stating what I do know. The pups that have come out of Parker and Jonesy so far are of excellent quality and bashing a breeder on a public forum does not settle any issues. Everyone must judge a breeder on their own experiences and use their good judgement when it comes to making such an important purchase. We have discussed the importance of written contracts before. With internet purchases the term buyer beware becomes even more crutial. There will always be risk when purchasing a pup sight unseen. If you are free to say that you are unhappy with the service that you received from a particular breeder than I am free to say that I was happy. I just hate to see anyone's name dragged through the mud when they are not here to defend themselves. You people are mean sometimes and I would hate to see my self on the end of your rope.

I wasnt being mean when I said what I had to say about jenda's yorkies.....
I stated the FACTS.......and I am also not saying that "all" her pups are of a lesser quality... What I AM SAYING IS: I didnt get the pup that I PAID FOR $$. The price that I paid doesnt matter nor does the fact that it may be a healthy pup. I still didnt receive the pup that I PAID FOR. What irritates me the most is the fact that Marylou refuses to even research it for a possibility... She states that the pup I purchased "DEMI" was microchipped before she went to the vet and she has the microchip number listed in her "notes" as that pup being "DEMI"... I was sent a copy of the microchip certificate but there isnt a name on it, it is left blank so the new owner can name the pup and register the pup... I understand all of this and have no problem with the procedure. I did ask her if she ACTUALLY SCANNED the pup before she shipped it to make sure she was sending the correct pup (according to her notes) and I havent heard back from her... I am actually taking another female to the vet this morning and will take that pup along and have it scanned to see if she sent the correct microchip certificate. The only way I will know anything is if it is a different number- then I will know that she did send a different pup according to the cert number in her notes. If the number is the same as the certificate that she sent to me then- it is possible that she just sent a different pup with its certificate altogether... She never listed in her ad that the pup was microchipped and what her number was, to I really have no point of reference. I didnt even know that the pup was microchipped until she told me shortly before she shipped her. This to me seems a bit odd to me as well. We had numerous corresponging emails and it was never mentioned until shortly before she was shipped. If you look at the ads on puppyfind, usually breeders who do microchip their pups advertise them as such... This does enhance their worth I feel and if you are putting the time and effort into it, why wouldnt you advertise it??? She said that she has it written in her notes that the cert she sent is for DEMI but how does a buyer really know...

Just a thought........
 

Bzbobbi,
I think you would be better off starting your own thread and posting it in either the Breeder Talk forum or the breeder/vet reviews forum instead on adding to other peoples threads that they started. I dont think you should have posted on Tami's thread introducing Cricket and I see her concern that you made it sound like she was scammed also. If you start your own thread, more people will see it and give you their advice or opinion. A word of caution though is not to state things that you dont know as fact like you did on Tami's thread. You are setting yourself up for big time trouble by doing that. You have every right to post your experience just like others has their right to post their own. I hope you get things worked out and I do understand your frustration about this puppy. Good luck!!!!!!!

I do NOT think anyone was trying to be mean! This thread was not started by you, it was started by another member asking about Jenda's Yorkies.. I think Bobbi has tried to settle this with Jenda's Yorkies/Mary Lou and apparently it has not been settled.. I also wonder in the back of my mind why Jenda's Yorkies/Mary Lou NEVER contacted Barb after she emailed them to state her Trace had Legg Perthes? I also think if someone is telling the TRUTH they are not bashing anyone!

I will also say I have PERSONALLY been to Larry Smith's home/Lashire Yorkies and I have NEVER seen such flith in all my life! I also have hands on when it comes to his dogs.. The smell from his kennel took my husband and my breath away it stunk so bad.. Most of the dogs were living in tiny rabbit cages!!!!!!:(

i am going to say the same thing I said on another thread somewhere. People wouldn't have all these problems MAYBE if they would consider the breeders on here before looking elsewhere. There are many good honest breeders on here to choose from. I am not talking about just me because i only last night recommended a half dozen YT breeders to someone looking for something I don't have. Some I know and can recommend, others I know of but couldn't recommend so maybe this ought to be the starting place in a search for a puppy. A lot of the breedes on here also have good recommendations from satisfied buyers.

I think the clue for future yorkie families is to educate themselves before venturing out in their search......Whether YT breeders or not, learn what a reputable breeder is, one that is breeding to improve, breeding healthy, well structured and good temperament dogs. Provides honest information, can provide references. New yorkie families should take their time on making a big decision such as this. I myself would not buy sight unseen from an unknown breeder with unestablished lines.

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I would also like to add "a prospective new owner" should not narrow your search just to YT breeders! There are alot of reputable breeders who do not advertise or need to advertise, or would not even think of ever advertising! Go to your local kennel club and see if they can refer you to a yorkshire terrier breeder in your area.. It is up to the prospective owner to do their homework and know what to look for in a reputable breeder and a healthy puppy! I think it is important to get to know who you are thinking of purchasing from, request references, vet reference.. If you are looking to show in conformation make sure you purchase from a reputable show breeder who have championed their dogs and are actively showing..

It would not matter to me if the dog was perfect, it still is NOT the one she paid for. Looking at those pictures, I see no way it could be the same dog. Even if it has some miraculous spurt of hair growth, how did the set of the ears change so dramatically? It is not bashing a breeder to report on an experience. Bobbi even started off asking for opinions about whether the dogs were the same. If a breeder is substituting dogs after purchase, then that information needs to be made public! What is YT for but to share experiences? If you contact her often, you can always invite her to come here and defend herself -- but my guess is there is no defense for this.

How did this become YOUR thread? Are you also YorkieGeorge? That is the person who started the thread. Just posting a lot in a thread does not give ownership. I think everyone understands you were very happy with your purchase from Jendas. But....I think you are personalizing this to yourself too much. Just because a breeder makes one great transaction does not mean she does not make a mistake on another.

It is good to hear from all sides. Too many times when someone has a bad experience on this board, they are accused of "bashing" or "raking through the mud." It makes too many others afraid to even report the bad experiences! Instead, why not just accept that someone else had a bad experience. Say, "sorry you had a bad experience. I got my pup from them and had a great transaction from start to finish. " Then you have evened the score but allowed for another's experiences as well. You can both be right -- really!!

I have followed this for a while and probably should have stayed the course with keeping my fingers off the keyboard but.....I finally couldn't help but respond.

Debra, I believe the thread Tami was referring to was the one Tami started in the my yorkie forum introducing Cricket, that Bzbreeze posted on, not this one.
That is why I suggested to her to maybe start her own thread about this instead of using someone elses to make her point. I know you werent directing this to me but I think that is what she meant by "my thread".

can we keep names correct.... my name is BzBobbi. . . . . thank you.

Pardon my mistake......BzBobbi

:( From what I have read so far in this thread,I think I would be leery of giving a good recommendation or recounting a bad experience, much less naming names. I am having a bad exp. so far with my pup, but wisely, it seems, have refrained from mentioning any names. If an experience is good then so be it. If it is bad....then so be it. We can only recount our own experiences. I walk only in my own shoes.

If you'll read the quote again you will find that I was refering to the presenting Cricket thread that is in My Yorkie. It is my thread because I started it to introduce a new dog.

You will defend this bad breeder, Jendas, no matter how many people buy her inferior pups that she misrepresents.
Jessica

You can call them inferior if you want to but I have quite a few judges who disagree with you. I will trust in their judgement since they are much more qualified then you to make it. And yes I will remain loyal to someone who has been good to me until I have reason to no longer be loyal. Are you loyal to anyone? Do you not know that there are 2 sides to every story and everyone deserves a right to present their side before they are judged? Mary Lou is a nice person who is having a hard time right now and I will not add to her woes.

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]WOW! exactly where do you get off talking to someone like that? You have no right to incinuate that perttypuppypink isnt loyal to anyone! You seem to think that you are the only one WHO IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION!! She has the right to post her mishap with Marylou as you also have the right to post your good-experience. You know a "BAD EXPERIENCE" is hard to get over... It isnt JUST THE FINANCIAL SET BACK THAT YOU SUFFER, but also THE PITY YOU HAVE FOR THE PUPPY!! and the fact that YOU DONT REALLY WANT TO SEND A PUP BACK TO SOMEONE WHO DOESNT GIVE A SH*T about it and is just GREEDY AND MONEY HUNGRY!! So what gives you the right to question PrettyPuppyPink's integrity?? you know for me personally, Marylou stated to me that ONE BRASS UNSATISFIED CUSTOMER will not ruin her reputation.... Well she was WRONG ABOUT "JUST ONE!!" I have spoke with SEVERAL people including other breeders who have had a BAD EXPERIENCE WITH HER. You seem to be the ONLY GOOD EXPERIENCE I HAVE HEARD OF.

strange...i can't get the website to open...well show up...maybe i will try at home...could be firewall thing her at work...

I was not questioning her integrity since integrity means honesty and sincerity. What I was referring to is the fact that she should understand about loyalty as I'm sure there is someone that she is loyal to. Do you not take the word of someone that you know over the word of a stranger? As I have said before I hope your little girl grows up to be as beautiful and healthy as her brother is. Jessica was not posting a mishap but was commenting on my loyalty to Mary Lou and insulted my dog calling him inferior, which is untrue. I simply said that he is not inferior and I have plenty of ribbons to back that up and that yes indeed I am loyal until I have reason to not be loyal. I don't ask you to change your opinion, I've even tried to help you with your questions about the dog that you have purchased and about her brother. I've posted pictures for you and pm'd you. If you still feel the need to attack me than so be it, I'll be done corresponding with you.

You are the one who attacks people because they have a different opinion than you do regarding a breeder. Why not let them have their say and not respond to it? Then it is done, they have gotten off their chest. Do you always have to get in the LAST WORD? EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION whether it be the same as your OR NOT. As I have stated before I am glad that your experience with the breeder went well, unfortunetly she doesnt have 100% positive feedback. You post your pics of your pups and you are proud of them, we have been cheated out of being able to do that.
I hope you can understand that.

Mary Lou has had health problems for some time and has sold off the bulk of her stock. Without dogs to show there was no reason to maintain a website and so closed it down.

i don't believe they are the same either...

I understand you disapointment and even your anger. I have not attacked anyone. I've never called anyone a name or been harsh or unkind. I've simply stood up for someone who has been kind to me. I hope you are able to resolve your issue with Mary Lou. You may now have the last word.

i am that way also...i am very picky so if i don't like the way the puppy looks then i express no interest in buying it.

same here!

oh ok...i guess this thread was open in Oct of last year...i am too slow...but thanks for the info!