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Old 12-15-2009, 01:34 PM   #1
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Default Does AKC status mean a lot to you when purchasing a pup?

The title says it all. Just wondering what peoples' opinions out there about AKC. Do you think it's a plus when buying a pup or no? And does being AKC registered mean you can particularly sell your pup for more $?
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Yes, AKC resigtered puppies are worth more. Even though we have no intentions of showing Sophie we still wanted to have the AKC papers to insure her bloodline was that of the standard yorkie. The papers will atest to any champions in the line as well.
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Yes and no. I personally like to be able to look in the pedigree, and see what is there. I like to know the health of the dogs that came before mine. I actually looked up most of Mad's before hand. You also get the assurance that the dog you are paying for is what they say it is There is aslo the fact that most people that are breeding with no registry don't really care that much what they produce, and there has been very little thought put into this breeding. Basically they just want to have puppies and sell them. This being said I bought 2 of my dogs on limited registration which means that their ofspring would not be registerable and they are supposed to be spayed/neutered. So beyond the fact that I know their backgrounds, the registry really does little else for me.

If you are going to give your money to a breeder, give it to a good one, that really cares about what they are doing. That loves the breed and who's goal is to make the breed better and not to just sell puppies. Your puppy will probably come with registration but weather it matters or not will be up to your personal prefrence.
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Although getting an AKC puppy, does not mean it is better quality, or even that it is pure bred, I want mine to be AKC. You do have some recourse through the AKC if it turns out that your dog is not pure bred. I'm just not comfortable with the other registries.
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Yes, AKC resigtered puppies are worth more. Even though we have no intentions of showing Sophie we still wanted to have the AKC papers to insure her bloodline was that of the standard yorkie. The papers will atest to any champions in the line as well.

I don't believe this to be true. Any breeder, encluding BYB and puppymills
can have their puppies registered AKC as long as the parent's are registered
that way. Also, having paper's does not prove your Yorkie came from a standard 7 lb and under parent ,all it means is the parent's as well as the
puppy were registered as AKC.
Knowing your breeder is key to a healthy, well breed dog.
AKC seems to be the preferred registary is all.
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Although getting an AKC puppy, does not mean it is better quality, or even that it is pure bred, I want mine to be AKC. You do have some recourse through the AKC if it turns out that your dog is not pure bred. I'm just not comfortable with the other registries.
What recourse?

AKC is for me.
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I don't believe this to be true. Any breeder, encluding BYB and puppymills
can have their puppies registered AKC as long as the parent's are registered
that way. Also, having paper's does not prove your Yorkie came from a standard 7 lb and under parent ,all it means is the parent's as well as the
puppy were registered as AKC.
Knowing your breeder is key to a healthy, well breed dog.
AKC seems to be the preferred registary is all.
This should clarifiy my statement for you.
AKC Mission Statement
The American Kennel Club is dedicated to upholding the integrity of its Registry, promoting the sport of purebred dogs and breeding for type and function. Founded in 1884, the AKC® and its affiliated organizations advocate for the purebred dog as a family companion, advance canine health and well-being, work to protect the rights of all dog owners and promote responsible dog ownership.
AKC’s Objective:
Advance the study, breeding, exhibiting, running and maintenance of purebred dogs.
AKC's Core Values:
We love purebred dogs
We are committed to advancing the sport of the purebred dog
We are dedicated to maintaining the integrity of our Registry
We protect the health and well-being of all dogs
We cherish dogs as companions
We are committed to the interests of dog owners
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Well, I dont have papers for Laci, I went to a crappy breeder , I love her to death and wouldnt trade her for the world. I honestly couldnt ask for a cuter,smarter puppy. I had no issue with potty training, she does so many tricks, she is smart as a whip and honestly I think she is beautiful. Her breeder came up with some stupid story about her papers. I, with out a doubt would go to a AKC breeder, but honestly having the papers would NOT be important at all to me since I have no intention of showing her. I hope in the very near future to get a another puppy and will deffinatly go to a good breeder so I know about her parents and pedigree so I know for sure they will be around for a long time and have NO health issues. I Hope that makes sense.
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I don't believe this to be true. Any breeder, encluding BYB and puppymills
can have their puppies registered AKC as long as the parent's are registered
that way. Also, having paper's does not prove your Yorkie came from a standard 7 lb and under parent ,all it means is the parent's as well as the
puppy were registered as AKC.
Knowing your breeder is key to a healthy, well breed dog.
AKC seems to be the preferred registary is all.
Actually it doesn't even mean that it came from the 2 dogs that are listed as parents. Which is why it is important to research the breeder first then find a puppy.

But I do think that having the AKC makes people believe that they are worth more. It is one of the first questions that people ask.
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What recourse?

AKC is for me.
If you suspect that the dogs listed on the registration papers are not the actual parents, the AKC will DNA, for a fee, to determine if they are.

The breeder would be in big trouble if the papers were not accurate. So most AKC breeders are very careful about that.
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You're right Jeanie-some people can and do lie about almost anything especially when trying to make money and researching the breeder is key. I do believe the AKC does it's best to monitor the lines and suspend violaters and the AKC registration is only one way to attempt to get the best of the breed. Researching the breeders suspension list is important if you aren't familiar with your breeder.
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AKC papers are like the title on a car. They prove that the parents of the puppy were the same breed. They do NOT attest to quality of the dog. Many, many back yard breeders use AKC as their registry. Just because the dog is AKC registered, does NOT mean the dog has been bred to the standard.

Example - You have a title for a 2008 BMW. Your car is in perfect condition, excellently maintained, showroom perfect. Your neighbor has a title for their 2008 BMW. Their car has been wrecked, has multiple recalls, and is rusting and falling apart. If you look at the PAPERS (title) for this car, you couldn't tell that, could you? You'd have to go by the reputation of the people who owned the cars and their maintenance records. You'd have to see the cars for yourself to know which would be the better buy.

It is exactly the same with AKC papers. They prove the puppies parents are the same breed. End of story. There is NO testament to quality. They are a registry ONLY. You could have a 20 pound yorkie with a wiry short coat and floppy ears and it could be AKC registered. It would just be poor quality and not bred to standard. Still... you could say it was AKC registered and if you didn't have any breeding restrictions (limited registration), your dog could be bred and the puppies sold with "papers".

Know your breeder. Look at the parents, grandparents, littermates. Are there titles in the last 3 generations? That's how you will get a quality puppy. Not by relying on AKC to get you quality.
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AKC papers are like the title on a car. They prove that the parents of the puppy were the same breed. They do NOT attest to quality of the dog. Many, many back yard breeders use AKC as their registry. Just because the dog is AKC registered, does NOT mean the dog has been bred to the standard.

Example - You have a title for a 2008 BMW. Your car is in perfect condition, excellently maintained, showroom perfect. Your neighbor has a title for their 2008 BMW. Their car has been wrecked, has multiple recalls, and is rusting and falling apart. If you look at the PAPERS (title) for this car, you couldn't tell that, could you? You'd have to go by the reputation of the people who owned the cars and their maintenance records. You'd have to see the cars for yourself to know which would be the better buy.

It is exactly the same with AKC papers. They prove the puppies parents are the same breed. End of story. There is NO testament to quality. They are a registry ONLY. You could have a 20 pound yorkie with a wiry short coat and floppy ears and it could be AKC registered. It would just be poor quality and not bred to standard. Still... you could say it was AKC registered and if you didn't have any breeding restrictions (limited registration), your dog could be bred and the puppies sold with "papers".

Know your breeder. Look at the parents, grandparents, littermates. Are there titles in the last 3 generations? That's how you will get a quality puppy. Not by relying on AKC to get you quality.
They prove nothing except who owns the two dogs that are listed as the parents. It does not mean they ARE the parents.

The father could be the mutt next door
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Ha-ha...It's beginning not to matter to me either!
I think I'll just move on to the Can Yorkies See Ghosts topic!
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