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BamaFan121s · 12-16-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

Yes, AKC resigtered puppies are worth more.

Really? Who exactly determines how much one dog is "worth?"

Are you insinuating that your AKC dog is worth more than my CKC dog?

(No, I don't think that you are...at least, I hope not....but please realize that your comment could be easily misconstrued as offensive.)

In all honesty, I can't find any truth in that statement. I have seem CKC dogs that were georgeous and AKC dogs that don't look like they've ever even seen a Yorkie.

misslissa · 12-16-2009, 08:41 AM

i registered Gatsby with the AKC because his breeder asked me to she really wanted me to show him i diddent have the time gatsby was DNA tested with the akc and i trust them but my big reason was the lost and found system a neighbor had her show golden retrever returned to her because of that tag and it makes me feel bettter haveing it

ARCHIE · 12-16-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

You totally misunderstood me and jumped to a wrong conclusion. I simply meant I obviously did not do a very good job trying to explain myself well and I was going by what I read on the AKC site. I'm not trying to prove anything...No need to be nasty to me

.

I am not being nasty to you. That's not me! You just came on so strong
in what you believe or what you thought and all I said was what the registry means.
That's all.
Sorry for the confussion.

salazark · 12-16-2009, 09:01 AM

I've had wonderful dogs that weren't true representations of their breed and many that had so many breeds in them that no-one would know what they were. Obviously registration didn't matter for them at all. But, when I decided I wanted a Yorkshire Terrier, I wanted a true and healthy representation of a the breed. Because Sadie is spayed and I never intend to breed, having AKC registration on my dog didn't matter to me at all. What did matter to me was obtaining her from a breeder who has AKC registration on her dogs, and beyond that that she is a reputable, caring breeder who is breeding for the betterment of the breed. I found that and I couldn't be happier!

MI Yorkielover · 12-16-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE

I am not being nasty to you. That's not me! You just came on so strong
in what you believe or what you thought and all I said was what the registry means.
That's all.
Sorry for the confussion.

Me too, I didn't mean to come off that strong, if anything I was confused. If I've offended please forgive me. I'm learning things here everyday just like everyone else.

chachi · 12-16-2009, 09:10 AM

I like to buy AKC registered dogs. The registry has its problems but it is by far the best registry

MorkieMomii · 12-16-2009, 09:11 AM

Registries mean zip. People can falsify anything. You would have to get to know your breeder, be certain to know who the parents are. See proof that the mother dog recently gave birth to those pups around her. Millers would even go so far as to set up a room with a beautiful female yorkie claiming that's the mom, check her, is she indeed lactating? You really need to know the breeder. Scams are everywhere.

As for value, demand dictates value. Our Eva is not registered but her "mix" is in demand and finding a first generation Morkie( meaning both parents were pure breds) is difficult, the price reflects that. But high priced hybrids don't mean anything either, you still have to know the breeder and parents of the dog.

People who just believe in a piece of paper and the registration system in general need to wise up, it is what it is.

chattiesmom · 12-16-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

The paperwork is only as good as the breeder.

I agree with this entirely - until registeries start requiring dna testing for ALL dogs registered as well as requiring puppy and adult photographs -- the registration papers are only as good as the breeder is honest. And even with DNA testing unethical breeders can find a way to be dishonest.

HarrisFamily · 12-16-2009, 09:45 AM

You can pick up a dog in the street that looks like a yorkie and get it Continental CKC papers, no proof of any parentage or anything. And most of the registries like ACA, UBR, APRI, etc will take papers from any other registry and register the dog with them. So if I'm buying a puppy of any breed unless it's AKC I just have a lot less faith that the dog is actually purebred.

JoshieBoy · 12-16-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HarrisFamily

You can pick up a dog in the street that looks like a yorkie and get it Continental CKC papers, no proof of any parentage or anything. And most of the registries like ACA, UBR, APRI, etc will take papers from any other registry and register the dog with them. So if I'm buying a puppy of any breed unless it's AKC I just have a lot less faith that the dog is actually purebred.

I agree with your opinion.

ARCHIE · 12-16-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

Me too, I didn't mean to come off that strong, if anything I was confused. If I've offended please forgive me. I'm learning things here everyday just like everyone else.

I know you are. No problem. It's great that you are learning. That's what
YT is all about. I've been here for year's and learn something new almost
every day.

MI Yorkielover · 12-16-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Really? Who exactly determines how much one dog is "worth?"

Are you insinuating that your AKC dog is worth more than my CKC dog?

(No, I don't think that you are...at least, I hope not....but please realize that your comment could be easily misconstrued as offensive.)

In all honesty, I can't find any truth in that statement. I have seem CKC dogs that were georgeous and AKC dogs that don't look like they've ever even seen a Yorkie.

I meant nothing of the kind. I would not insinuate that. I only meant that some breeders will charge more because of the AKC registration. I shouldn't have used the word "worth". They just seem to be worth more to the AKC breeder. God forgive anyone who misspeaks here. Sophie's parents are AKC registered but I have not registered Sophie because I am not breeding her and it's just not that important to me. Geezzzz

BamaFan121s · 12-16-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

I meant nothing of the kind. I would not insinuate that.

The way you worded it kind of made it sound like that was exactly what you were implying....THAT was all that I was trying to point out. I am fully aware that is not how you meant the comment--I was careful to note that I did not think that in my post so that you would know I was not accusing you of being condescending.

MI Yorkielover · 12-16-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

The way you worded it kind of made it sound like that was exactly what you were implying....THAT was all that I was trying to point out. I am fully aware that is not how you meant the comment--I was careful to note that I did not think that in my post so that you would know I was not accusing you of being condescending.

I'm very glad you understand

. I would never intentionally insult or hurt anyone's feelings.
(But my dog can beat up your dog just kidding, just kidding,
just kidding.....)

BamaFan121s · 12-16-2009, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=MI Yorkielover;2918625]
(But my dog can beat up your dog just kidding, just kidding,
just kidding.....)[/CENTER]

LOL...I'm afraid your dog might be outnumbered in that situation.

12-16-2009, 08:41 AM	#32
misslissa YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: canton ohio us Posts: 1,574	i registered Gatsby with the AKC because his breeder asked me to she really wanted me to show him i diddent have the time gatsby was DNA tested with the akc and i trust them but my big reason was the lost and found system a neighbor had her show golden retrever returned to her because of that tag and it makes me feel bettter haveing it __________________ Don't say I love you unless you mean it, but if you do say it a lot. People forget.

12-16-2009, 09:10 AM	#36
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I like to buy AKC registered dogs. The registry has its problems but it is by far the best registry __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

12-16-2009, 09:11 AM	#37
MorkieMomii Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 225	Registries mean zip. People can falsify anything. You would have to get to know your breeder, be certain to know who the parents are. See proof that the mother dog recently gave birth to those pups around her. Millers would even go so far as to set up a room with a beautiful female yorkie claiming that's the mom, check her, is she indeed lactating? You really need to know the breeder. Scams are everywhere. As for value, demand dictates value. Our Eva is not registered but her "mix" is in demand and finding a first generation Morkie( meaning both parents were pure breds) is difficult, the price reflects that. But high priced hybrids don't mean anything either, you still have to know the breeder and parents of the dog. People who just believe in a piece of paper and the registration system in general need to wise up, it is what it is. __________________ Mary

12-16-2009, 09:01 AM	#34
salazark Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 941	I've had wonderful dogs that weren't true representations of their breed and many that had so many breeds in them that no-one would know what they were. Obviously registration didn't matter for them at all. But, when I decided I wanted a Yorkshire Terrier, I wanted a true and healthy representation of a the breed. Because Sadie is spayed and I never intend to breed, having AKC registration on my dog didn't matter to me at all. What did matter to me was obtaining her from a breeder who has AKC registration on her dogs, and beyond that that she is a reputable, caring breeder who is breeding for the betterment of the breed. I found that and I couldn't be happier!

12-16-2009, 09:45 AM	#39
HarrisFamily Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 227	You can pick up a dog in the street that looks like a yorkie and get it Continental CKC papers, no proof of any parentage or anything. And most of the registries like ACA, UBR, APRI, etc will take papers from any other registry and register the dog with them. So if I'm buying a puppy of any breed unless it's AKC I just have a lot less faith that the dog is actually purebred.

12-16-2009, 11:38 AM	#45
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	[QUOTE=MI Yorkielover;2918625] (But my dog can beat up your dog just kidding, just kidding, just kidding.....)[/CENTER] LOL...I'm afraid your dog might be outnumbered in that situation.