Breeder Review Anyone heard of Yorkie Love Affair? Breeder Review

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by shippernhorse

You could email her! I've talked with her out of curiosity and she is open to people coming to her house to see pups and parents. Somepeople just don't like having there names out there! I personally think shè would be a great breeder to buy from if your looking for the super cute tiny pup! She's not breeding to the standard because that's not want her customers want

That is so totally the wrong reason to breed, totally wrong and it does no service to the unsuspecting buyer. Interesting that you would think this is a great breeder to buy from. Breeding to fill a pet market is so terribly wrong.
Breeders that don't like having their names out there have something to hide, trust me on that one. Breeders who are proud of their dogs, proud of their accomplishments and pedigrees and their own champions shown and finished in the show rings certainly have no trouble saying who they are. From my pedigrees on my website you can also see who I am friends with and who has trusted me with their lines.

[ironmike86]

IMHO ppl come here have been told the risk of owning a tiny pup. Don't want to hear or why there are standard sizes. Don't care about the $$. I say go ahead spend your $$ . Come back in 3-4 yrs and tell how it went. Nobody will condone the purchase because to many ppl have already been there or seen it. Not worth the risk. Sure some puppy come out small and my turn out healthy but to buy from a breeder who breeds mice....Just I always hear breeder not wanting them small. They know the risk. They know they can put a "label" and make more $$ but it's not in the "Code of Conduct" PPl who do why would you trust them?? JMO

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

That is so totally the wrong reason to breed, totally wrong and it does no service to the unsuspecting buyer. Interesting that you would think this is a great breeder to buy from. Breeding to fill a pet market is so terribly wrong.
Breeders that don't like having their names out there have something to hide, trust me on that one. Breeders who are proud of their dogs, proud of their accomplishments and pedigrees and their own champions shown and finished in the show rings certainly have no trouble saying who they are. From my pedigrees on my website you can also see who I am friends with and who has trusted me with their lines.

Lorraine you are so so correct in this post, and it transfers across all purebred dogs!. Of course in my opinion....

We breed to improve the breed, or at the minimum to maintain their stirling qualities. I don't give a whinney about what the "public" thinks I should breed to. I breed to my CKC standard, and yes you betcha I want to improve my breed.

Truly I think someday that informed folks will get the "fact" that owning a well bred pure-bred dog is a true priviledge. That it comes with responsibilities, not only of financial ones; ie good vet care, food, exercise, but of training, of developing their little puppy to be all that they can be.

Very large, and very small, all have challenges that expand over health, training, and protective actions needed by the owner to be taken.

[maggiesmom_2007]

This person is associated with another bad breeder that breeds for tinies. These people disgust me. How in the world can anyone justify breeding dogs that small to create puppies to be super small, and say they are giving their customers what they want. Ugh it just sickens me. I have a little boy who is 16 weeks old and weighs 1lb 4 ozs and I have to say I didn't breed to get him he just happened. But I can tell you he scares the living daylights out of me when he refuses to eat. I could have sold him but I chose to offer the potential home a bigger pup because I couldn't conceivably sell a pup this small with his pickiness to anyone. I would feel lower than low if I had and something happened to him because he is Mr. Picky eater.

[gracielove]

The "breeder" seems to sell everything including the kitchen sink. From the few things I found online about her it appears she is into selling anything and everything. I am amazed she has time to take care of her pets.

She is doing totally irresponsible breeding. Disregarding every sort of professional and responsible breeding practices. This is another money making side line for her. Breeding for the "fashionable" but genetically inferior tiny breed dogs is only a money grabbing business. Although tiny dogs are very much in demand the public is uninformed about the health and safety issues that go with them. Tragic consequences result. Another careless as well as heartless breeder. If she had taken the time to learn about the genetics of breeding any purebred dog she would know that what she is doing is deadly and totally unfair to the unsuspecting buyer as well as the poor puppies that may survive her delinquent breeding practices.

[lynzy420]

A wise old owl sat on an oak,
the more she listened, the less she spoke,
the less she spoke, the more she heard...
why can't we all be like that wise old bird???

[lynzy420]

never mind...this breeder is a POS, she is everything that is unethical, everything that we are against and is only in it for the money, GREEDER. This breeder could care less about anything and judging from what I've seen on line...she's probably as illegal as they come....

But you, are her dream customer...so very sad, very very sad...because 2 wrongs never ever, make a right...

[shippernhorse]

Who are you saying is her dream customer? I hope your not referring to me! I don't agree with breeding a female under 5 lbs! I only posted what I did because I was frustrated with people posting about her and that her name isn't on her site but no one actually emailed or talked to her to find out why. That happens so much on this site. I just don't like judging people until ive gathered all the info I can about that person.....other wise its all gossip.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by shippernhorse

Who are you saying is her dream customer? I hope your not referring to me! I don't agree with breeding a female under 5 lbs! I only posted what I did because I was frustrated with people posting about her and that her name isn't on her site but no one actually emailed or talked to her to find out why. That happens so much on this site. I just don't like judging people until ive gathered all the info I can about that person.....other wise its all gossip.

Do you really think that the MO of this breeder is brand new with this type of breeder? Perhaps we are being judgemental but that would be based on seeing this sort of thing over and over again with other breeders that were not reputable at all and knowing full well what the outcome will be with most puppies they sell.
Same drill for someone who thinks they can go buy a champion line or show dog from a reputable show breeder. The prospective purchaser will say all sorts of things but the longtime experience show breeder knows when they are being scammed most of the time. All we have to do is listen to what the person is saying, the prospective alleged future show breeder has no intention of showing a dog, only want champion lined dogs to breed because they think they can charge more for their puppies. They tip their hand everytime although they have no clue what the heck happened then will call the show breeder a snob or all sorts of names. In reality the reputable show breeder knows exactly what the intent is and does not want to risk her/his lines.
The wheels fell off the puppy selling world I would say at least 10 years ago. It has been about that long if not longer that people have cropped up everywhere breeding and selling for profit whatever the market wants to buy no other reason for breeding and that includes the designer dog fad. In over 10 years there is not anything unique that a dog seller/breeder can come up with in their fables of what they are about. And with their websites, they do not have a clue what is a red flag because they dont think ethically so don't know what is obviously tipping their hand to what type of breeder they are.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by yorkiebradybunc

1. The fact that you can take them almost anywhere. They are so small, they can comfortably fit inside a large tote bag or a special bag specially designed so you can take your fur baby along. Plus, more and more retail stores and restaurants are allowing dogs to come inside, particularly if they're small in size. The small dog definitely has the advantage here.
2. If you live in an apartment, a small dog may be the only dog that's allowed. Many apartment complexes have regulations specifying the size dog you can have. If your dog is Tinkerbell size, he may be allowed to take up residence with you in your apartment.
3. Small dogs require less food which can be a cost savings to you. Plus, if you need to take them to a kennel or have them groomed, it generally will cost less than it would for a larger dog.
4. Small dogs tend to be less threatening to other pets you may have in your house.
5. Small dogs tend to form close bonds with their people, possibly because their small size allows them to follow their owner almost everywhere.
6. People tend to find smaller dogs less intimidating and are often eager to pamper and cuddle them. If you're a social person and like people coming up to you to pet your dog, a small dog may be for you.
7. Smaller dogs tend to be easier to clean, groom and bathe.
8. The "Teacup" sized dogs tend to have smaller features such as snout, noses, ears which makes them more teddy bear faced.
9. Quieter barks
10. I just plain and simple LOVE having something I can carry with me all the time that has that awww factor!
BUT I DON"T want a sickly pup and if he looks sickly than that means I am going to have issues down the road.

All of these reasons....good luck on your search.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by maggiesmom_2007

This person is associated with another bad breeder that breeds for tinies. These people disgust me. How in the world can anyone justify breeding dogs that small to create puppies to be super small, and say they are giving their customers what they want. Ugh it just sickens me. I have a little boy who is 16 weeks old and weighs 1lb 4 ozs and I have to say I didn't breed to get him he just happened. But I can tell you he scares the living daylights out of me when he refuses to eat. I could have sold him but I chose to offer the potential home a bigger pup because I couldn't conceivably sell a pup this small with his pickiness to anyone. I would feel lower than low if I had and something happened to him because he is Mr. Picky eater.

You are exactly right and I certainly have had the small ones as well although I would never breed for them and neither sire or dam of any breedings I do are less than just over 5 lbs. I prefer 5 1/2 to about 7ish.
With the small ones, I do not sell them until they are much closer to a year and only if I am convinced they do not have another health issue. Refusing to eat may be just the way he is however, it may be indicative of a health issue. It could be enymatic, liver/kidney issues, liver shunt. I am saying MAY it may not be but you won't know until over time see what happens. I would rather something go wrong while a pup like that is still with me, not sold to a pet home.
Once my Vet I determine we can procede with spay/neuter, after blood tests etc. I take it to my Vet and have that done and any retained baby teeth removed. If I still am not sure I can run a Bile Acid test. Xrays can be done or other things if heart issues may be suspected.
Only once all these things are covered and if the pup is still found to be healthy just small then I will sell to a pet home but not some inflated price, I sell for the same price as any pet puppy. Testing and spay/neuter is paid by me and one of my expenses.

[ironmike86]

Originally Posted by shippernhorse

Who are you saying is her dream customer? I hope your not referring to me! I don't agree with breeding a female under 5 lbs! I only posted what I did because I was frustrated with people posting about her and that her name isn't on her site but no one actually emailed or talked to her to find out why. That happens so much on this site. I just don't like judging people until ive gathered all the info I can about that person.....other wise its all gossip.

You just don't see it?? You keep repeating and asking the samething. Seems like your trying to justify a purchase? For you or someone else?? And you will be surprised how the Show breeders know everyone. The breeders I know know ppl from everywhere in the States and Canada. At least know who's who's.
They have to...know where to stud from buy from ect...

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by yorkiebradybunc

1. The fact that you can take them almost anywhere. They are so small, they can comfortably fit inside a large tote bag or a special bag specially designed so you can take your fur baby along. Plus, more and more retail stores and restaurants are allowing dogs to come inside, particularly if they're small in size. The small dog definitely has the advantage here.
2. If you live in an apartment, a small dog may be the only dog that's allowed. Many apartment complexes have regulations specifying the size dog you can have. If your dog is Tinkerbell size, he may be allowed to take up residence with you in your apartment.
3. Small dogs require less food which can be a cost savings to you. Plus, if you need to take them to a kennel or have them groomed, it generally will cost less than it would for a larger dog.
4. Small dogs tend to be less threatening to other pets you may have in your house.
5. Small dogs tend to form close bonds with their people, possibly because their small size allows them to follow their owner almost everywhere.
6. People tend to find smaller dogs less intimidating and are often eager to pamper and cuddle them. If you're a social person and like people coming up to you to pet your dog, a small dog may be for you.
7. Smaller dogs tend to be easier to clean, groom and bathe.
8. The "Teacup" sized dogs tend to have smaller features such as snout, noses, ears which makes them more teddy bear faced.
9. Quieter barks
10. I just plain and simple LOVE having something I can carry with me all the time that has that awww factor!
BUT I DON"T want a sickly pup and if he looks sickly than that means I am going to have issues down the road.

Don't know if you're still around, but I'll share anyway. My yorkie is 7-8 lbs, 12 inches tall from the tip of his floppy ears to the floor, and is 12 inches long from base of neck to base of tail.
1. My yorkie has been everywhere with me. On a plane, long car rides, hiking up a mountain, out shopping, dinner with friends..... etc. etc. etc.
2. Being the daughter of a property manager, I put a lot of time into researching what would make the owners insurance happy and still allow this building to become pet friendly. Yes smaller sized dogs are preferred, but that's usually a dog under 30 lbs. maybe even 20 lbs. What's more important is that they're fixed and have a good citizen certificate or are enrolled in obedience classes. The owners and the insurance want to know you can control your dog and that the dog will listen to you to avoid conflicts with other tenants. they also want pets to be spayed and neutered as they believe this will help lessen the desire to fight amongst other dogs in the building.
3. If you buy quality food, you spend less anyway. You're not giving your dog a bunch of fillers and nonsense so you feed less. For my giant 7-8 lb yorkie I spend $25 every 2-3 months on a 15 lb bag of food. I won't be going broke any time soon. It might even be less. I think it's $18 for a bag of kibble.
4. Less threatening? I think that's more of a personality trait. I've been bitten more times by smaller dogs than I have by bigger ones. Just recently, my friends foster attacked another friends dog. The foster was at least half the other dogs size.
5. Don't know what gave you that idea. People form close bonds with their pets if they put the time and effort into it. I would love to come back in my next life as Gemy's BRT. They have such a wonderful life and I know they adore their humans. How couldn't they? They're always doing fun activities!!
6. I've seen both big and little dogs get lots of attention. If they're small and hidden in a purse, how will anyone know they're there?
7. I really should post the video of Kaji, my yorkie baby, helping at bath time. As soon as the water is on, he goes right under the spout to rinse himself off. I shampoo and he does it again. He hates bath time, but has figured out if he helps, the process is much quicker. He's such a smarty pants!
8. Teddy bear face? I don't know anything about that. I can't even tell the difference in all the yorkie faces. I just see terrier. You may or may not have a point there.
9. Mine doesn't bark. He just doesn't. It's his personality that makes him this way. Whether or not teeny dogs have "quieter barks" doesn't matter. I'll take my quiet as a mouse giant any day. We get warning growls and a single warning bark sometimes that someone is coming. It's all part I his personality. Oh... He does make monkey sounds when he's overly excited. It can be cute or annoying. Depending on the kind of day I've had at work.
10. We get oohs and awws all the time. I think that just comes with having a Yorkie. They're just so adorable, no matter the size.

For anyone that has a list of what would make an ideal dog, I highly recommend looking into adopting an older pup or an adult dog. I had a long list, and found my perfect fit. I wanted a quiet mellow dog with a dark saddle and floppy ears, and that's exactly what I have. He has energy to play, and has gone hiking with the family in the Grand Canyon in winter. He can do everything and be everywhere with us. He's a joy to have and I love him very much.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by yorkiebradybunc

How can I find out more information on the breeder, breeding practices, whether the breeder is ethically breeding, if the parents are of sound quality, health and health tested? HELP!

Ask a breeder to show you proof.

Ask them about their practices.

Ask about them here.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by shippernhorse

Who are you saying is her dream customer? I hope your not referring to me! I don't agree with breeding a female under 5 lbs! I only posted what I did because I was frustrated with people posting about her and that her name isn't on her site but no one actually emailed or talked to her to find out why. That happens so much on this site. I just don't like judging people until ive gathered all the info I can about that person.....other wise its all gossip.

Why dont you stick around and learn a bit before judging what is and isn't done here.

Its not gossip its quite factual.

No wonder you're having issues with reputable breeders...what her customers want...are you kidding me that is an insulting pathetic excuse for animal abuse and unethical breeding.